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How do you expect the writers to go about writing the 8th gen?

I want the writers to confirm once and for all that beating someone in a battle doesn't automatically make you better trainer/Pokémon overall.

It's a common misconception whenever someone wins a battle, it means he's stronger than his opponent, or at least is on their level. I believe, just like in real life sports, if you win one out of ten battles against another trainer or Pokémon, you're not stronger overall. It's just anime often doesn't have enough screentime to show those "ten" battles, but it shouldn't be used as a excuse to claim A is stronger than B just because he beat him once.

I'd like to see it explictly stated in the anime once it happens.
 

Bortgreen

NEXT TIME: A new year!
I want the writers to confirm once and for all that beating someone in a battle doesn't automatically make you better trainer/Pokémon overall.

It's a common misconception whenever someone wins a battle, it means he's stronger than his opponent, or at least is on their level. I believe, just like in real life sports, if you win one out of ten battles against another trainer or Pokémon, you're not stronger overall. It's just anime often doesn't have enough screentime to show those "ten" battles, but it shouldn't be used as a excuse to claim A is stronger than B just because he beat him once.

I'd like to see it explictly stated in the anime once it happens.
Well, in the games you can literally disband evil mega corporations by winning battles
 

AznKei

Dawn & Chloe by ddangbi
I want the writers to confirm once and for all that beating someone in a battle doesn't automatically make you better trainer/Pokémon overall.

It's a common misconception whenever someone wins a battle, it means he's stronger than his opponent, or at least is on their level. I believe, just like in real life sports, if you win one out of ten battles against another trainer or Pokémon, you're not stronger overall. It's just anime often doesn't have enough screentime to show those "ten" battles, but it shouldn't be used as a excuse to claim A is stronger than B just because he beat him once.

I'd like to see it explictly stated in the anime once it happens.
There's a thing called Battle Points (BP) in video games where the player competes against others, and which a higher BP gives you an indicator how good you are, despite not really implemented in the anime. Sure one victory doesn't automatically make you better but many consecutive victories is, unless you got extremely lucky or your opponents were told to take the fall against you.
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
maartjeverhoef said:
I want the writers to confirm once and for all that beating someone in a battle doesn't automatically make you better trainer/Pokémon overall.

It's a common misconception whenever someone wins a battle, it means he's stronger than his opponent, or at least is on their level. I believe, just like in real life sports, if you win one out of ten battles against another trainer or Pokémon, you're not stronger overall. It's just anime often doesn't have enough screentime to show those "ten" battles, but it shouldn't be used as a excuse to claim A is stronger than B just because he beat him once.

I'd like to see it explictly stated in the anime once it happens.

I dislike that sometimes Satoshi winning a battle is interpreted as him being stronger than his opponent, too. In the case of him defeating Shinji for example, as much as it had to happen to give Satoshi a long-awaited win against his greatest rival, I still think that Shinji was the better trainer since he was better at tactics and training overall. But I doubt that the Galar saga will change much regarding how wins are portrayed since the writers probably don't care about that stuff as long as they follow through with the plot.
 

Blastmaster

Well-Known Member
Tbf with Pokemon, it's also a matter of literal strength along with skill. With a lot of Ash's rivals, the idea is that Ash is just outmatched in both of those things (especially strength), so by the end of the rivalry Ash has caught up and proves it by beating them. If you're comparing it to other competitive games, like say Smash Bros for instance, that game is designed to give pretty much every character a similar amount of power. Beating someone 1/10 times in Smash doesn't make you more skilled since you've always been fighting on even grounds strength-wise. With Pokemon, you can't just be skilled, you also have to be strong. With Ash, I think the idea is that he's only truly fighting on even grounds at the League.

Like for example, Paul was actually much more strategic than Cynthia in their battle. Using positive type matchups as well as baiting her Garchomp into using Giga Impact so it'd be wide open to Torterra. But it didn't matter, since Cynthia was just so much higher in terms of sheer power. If they were fighting on even grounds, Paul should've actually won. But they weren't. It's the same idea with Ash and Paul (and Ash/Gary and Ash/Alain). He's outmatched for most of the rivalry, and needs to catch up so he can finally give them an even battle and win. (Except against Alain lol)
 

Pikachu Fan Number Nine

Don't Mess wit Texas
Only one of Ash's travel partners over the years has been shown to have a serious health issue. That was Clemont.

Heavy physical activity tied him out numerous times which is likely indicative of sickle cell.

If one of Ash's Galar companions has something wrong with them it would be great writing. It would be something for people in physical distress to rally around.
 

JC317

Well-Known Member
Only one of Ash's travel partners over the years has been shown to have a serious health issue. That was Clemont.

Heavy physical activity tied him out numerous times which is likely indicative of sickle cell.

If one of Ash's Galar companions has something wrong with them it would be great writing. It would be something for people in physical distress to rally around.

I think Clemont is really just more unfit than having a freaking chronic disease.

If anything, the only friend of Ash's that has a serious health issue is Sophocles. Obesity should not be overlooked; if Sophocles doesn't lose some weight soon, he'll be having lifelong health issues in the future.
 

AznKei

Dawn & Chloe by ddangbi
As of right now that is. I'm still expecting the worst for the new series (the Johto to XY formula with team rocket fillers and Ash losing leagues)
Well, it depends which characters do you care. If you are into Ash and wanted a badass version of him, you're probably find the series as a treat compared to how he was depicted in SM.
 

Redstar45

The Anime/Special's canon know it all.
Well, it depends which characters do you care. If you are into Ash and wanted a badass version of him, you're probably find the series as a treat compared to how he was depicted in SM.
Dunno about you but it does really sounds good to my ear
 

TheWanderingMist

Paladin of the Snow Queen
Well, it depends which characters do you care. If you are into Ash and wanted a bad*** version of him, you're probably find the series as a treat compared to how he was depicted in SM.
Considering her dislike of XY, I doubt she wants bad*** Ash. Actually, I think she doesn't want Ash at all.
 

Redstar45

The Anime/Special's canon know it all.
Considering her dislike of XY, I doubt she wants bad*** Ash. Actually, I think she doesn't want Ash at all.
Not really shocked as most fan on serebii dislike xy arc
 

AznKei

Dawn & Chloe by ddangbi
Not really shocked as most fan on serebii dislike xy arc
How many of us here would like to see the companions/classmates doing more badass things on their own?
 

Redstar45

The Anime/Special's canon know it all.
How many of us here would like to see the companions/classmates doing more badass things on their own?
Fews ? Dunno as i barely only read forum nowadays
 

LilligantLewis

Bonnie stan
If you're comparing it to other competitive games, like say Smash Bros for instance, that game is designed to give pretty much every character a similar amount of power.

false
 

MockingJ

Banned
I dislike SM, but I also dislike the concept for the new series. I hope Galar will get the most of it and the other region just a small part.

Yeah I think that the Galar portion of the new series should be the main point and that the other regions should only get short mini arcs at most.
 

VoltTacklingPika

Well-Known Member
I guess my prediction that Gen 8 would do something very different wasn't far off. Pokemon now seems to be focusing on all of its content, instead of hyper-focusing on the new thing. Pokemon: I Choose You and the Power of Us were AUs outside of the Gen 7 confines (even if, as per the series' MO, it featured Gen 7 Pokemon a lot), the first movies is being remade, and Pokemon Masters brings in characters from every single generation.

I like it. New characters and storylines are great and keep things fresh, but I love the idea of following-up on older characters, too. The Pokemon world is such a vast place now that it'd be a shame to leave most of it alone. I'm sure we'll be seeing plenty of Galar, but popping back to the other regions to catch-up on older companions would offer something more to fans like me who has grown bored of the series.

I'm tired of Ash's adventure. A new series exclusively about his ongoing journey, no matter what form it took, isn't going to excite me since I know that he's not going to change and the world isn't going to change. So the chance to get away, even if it's only for half-an-episode, would be welcome.

It'd be really cool if they had concurrent storylines that merged at the end, too.
 

Emelie

Bookworm
I'm a little worried that the whole "we're focusing on ALL regions" in Gen 8 is going to be 50 % Kanto nostalgia, 45 % Sinnoh remake advertisment and 5 % other regions.

Lately they have been hyper focusing on both Kanto nostalgia (Misty and Brock reappearing twice and the movie focusing on Gen 1-2) and advertisment for new games (Lycanroc, Poipole, Melmetal, Eevee).

I hope the anime is going somewhere with this and not just to appeal to older fans and sell more games.
 
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