Hey! What is your opinion about the SM arcs? Which one is your favorite? And which one do you really hate?
I feel like the anime team should take another look at Pokemon Adventures manga, specifically the original RBG, Y, and GSC story arcs. Some of you may have hear me call them story arcs as a whole and technically they are labelled that way however... their more like seasons madeup of story arcs than a whole story arc. Anyways, I recommend you guys try it out, it does everything that the Sun and Moon anime series tries to do right including giving the focus spotlight to multiple characters across different storylines succesfully. In fact, the GSC story arc doesn't just tell the story of the main characters but, like the japanese movie title of The Power of Us, it tells EVERYONE'S STORY and holy crap it's a exciting experience seeing the Pokemon world at so many different points of views, gym leaders, villains, seemingly minor supporting characters that are actually far more important than you may have thought as a kid. It's just so freaking amazing, there's even a Gym Leader Tournament where all 16, YES 16, Gym Leaders fight against each other, it's so freaking epic and you know what? The most interesting storyline out of all the 16 Gym Leaders is actually Janine, a character rarely explored in other adaptations, who's confused and angry because her father, Koga, disappeared and she has no idea what to do with her life since she has no master anymore and we get to see the WORLD OF POKEMON from her point of view. These are all story arcs that are built together, built up to something in the end and unlike the anime, we, Adventure fans, actually get to see the GS Ball in action in one of them lol!If I can sum it up in one word, it would be experimental.
The writers have never had to write successive arcs before. Usually, they would just nest arcs within each other. These arcs lack a major concept of pacing which causes problems. I'm not saying long arcs are better. After all, shows like Star Wars: The Clone Wars show us that we can do good arcs in two to five episodes. It's also a focus problem. All arcs so far lack a sense of focus on the characters because Ash needs the spotlight because he's their biggest money maker. Going back to Star Wars, they weren't afraid to make other characters the star, even when they, the money makers, were present in arc.
Actually, I believe that turning Lusamine from an abusive mother to a person who loves her kids yet isn’t the best parent was a good decision. This should explain my opinion better: http://aminoapps.com/p/16f6uaAether was doomed from the start simply because there was no way they were going to have one of the protagonists' parents turn out to be evil/insane.
They're hit/miss. Aether was doomed from the start simply because there was no way they were going to have one of the protagonists' parents turn out to be evil/insane. SM's real talent is in creating entertaining filler.
Am I the only one of the few who likes that arc because it covers most of the plot beats from the games and gave me enough emotions to get invested?That depends on the expectation, i think they were pretty fine thugh aether arc was somewhat underwhelming maybe because it was much better executed in the games.
I find her being deceptive and being hellbent on getting Nihilego to the point of neglecting her kids to be the best handling of her character. She knows she's dismissive of anyone not worth her attention and not afraid to be blunt on how she feels. It's better than her just being some mom who priorities end up getting blurred due to work and suddenly goes insane from her inner interest in UBs. Plus her impact on Lillie/Gladion's lifestyle is more meaningful in the games. The negative attributes of her character help make her more memorable and factors into her popularity.In fact the change on Lusamine is the BIG reason a lot of people gripe about the arc, especially since they gleefully ignore any form of depth Gamefreak tried and failed to implement with her character in the vanilla games. (One piece of dialogue from Lillie about off screen stuff we could have seen and a piece of dialogue with her motive for doing all of the wormhole crap in the first place. Stuff saying that she wasn't always the nut job she was when we met her in the games.)
So when the anime portrays Lusamine at her most mentally stable by removing those factors (Nihilego venom and possible Mohn disappearing, that resulted in her downward spiral into an abusive parent.) People cry foul because they are not getting what they wanted. (Yet people don't seem to mind this with Malva being/ becoming a good girl in the XY/Z anime when in the games... she threaten to burn you alive.)
Even in the anime, Lusamine is still not a good parent, she just isn't an abusive one. (The only trait of her character that people care about.) Once Gladion appropriately tore into Lusamine for her neglectful behavior, she starts undergoing character development, showing to her kids that she does care about them.
Lusamine seemed somewhat nicer in the SM saga, which I feel made her more underwhelming compared to how she was portrayed in the games.ash&charizardfan said:That depends on the expectation, i think they were pretty fine thugh aether arc was somewhat underwhelming maybe because it was much better executed in the games.
So the most one dimensional interpretation of Lusamine's character are the only meaningful high lights to you and the fan base? Villain does NOT have to equal, irredeemable scum, that was never the intention for Lusamine in S/M and it is evident when the anime and US/UM try to give her more depth. (If anything, S/M was the version that screwed her up. By only focusing on her villainy and half assing the depths to her character that the game tried to tell you about in the last quarter of the plot and after everything was said and done.)I find her being deceptive and being hellbent on getting Nihilego to the point of neglecting her kids to be the best handling of her character. She knows she's dismissive of anyone not worth her attention and not afraid to be blunt on how she feels. It's better than her just being some mom who priorities end up getting blurred due to work and suddenly goes insane from her inner interest in UBs. Plus her impact on Lillie/Gladion's lifestyle is more meaningful in the games. The negative attributes of her character help make her more memorable and factors into her popularity.
Malva didn't have that much of an impact during the Flare arc. She never seemed to have evil intentions. Her character does less than Lusamine so it's less noteworthy. And you're comparing Malva's one line in the games (after Flare is defeated, mind you) to an entire climax of a more memorable story (game wise).