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How does the Pokemon XY series compare to other anime in-general?

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by shoz999, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. Akkipeddi

    Akkipeddi Tsundere Service

    And Paul decides to mistreat his Pokémon because his brother lost a battle (and that too against the strongest Frontier head, not a scrub)? That's an even worse reason.
  2. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

    Your reasoning just reminded me of the depressing reasoning behind why so many people with different jobs have a lot of Pokemon. They failed at becoming Pokemon trainers in their youth early on. I still remember the Hiker from Pokemon Adventures BW who was proof of this, an old man desperately trying to join the Pokemon League but became stuck at Route 1 as a bystanding Pokemon trainer watching for weaker trainers to beat, only to lose miserably. Pretty depressing when you think about it but yeah. That same reasoning can't really be applied to Paul's brother. He didn't lose to some scrubs but a single powerful trainer he could've worked hard again to beat like Ash does.

    You know what Paul's brother should do? He should do what Black does lol from Pokemon Adventures! Stand on a high viewpoint and YELL OUT TO THE WORLD of his dreams EVERY. SINGLE. DAY!
  3. Redstar45

    Redstar45 The anime canon cop !

    No Paul should be fine the way he is .
  4. Jeal

    Jeal Well-Known Member

    I'm not defending Paul. He was wrong.
    I didn't say it wasn't, but that does not give anyone the right to take their frustrations out on others.
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  5. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

    True but it explains a lot.
  6. LilligantLewis

    LilligantLewis primarina donna

    He's Wally.
  7. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "And just what are you staring at?"

    Sawyer's not sick, adorable, or an inspiration.

    Oh, and without a sweet battle theme.
  8. LilligantLewis

    LilligantLewis primarina donna

    I'm surprised you chose to type out all 6 characters of the word Sawyer instead of just SSS.
  9. DatsRight

    DatsRight Well-Known Member

    The thing is however, that the anime has very often shown that characters that are experienced and matured in their own field aren't necessarily fully grown up in other regards. This is often the problem with toning down and 'developing' a character in that they become so laid back and sagely that there's barely anything of their old character left, even on a realistic sense. People don't really lose flaws, they just better learn to control them. It's kind of a case of 'reality is unrealistic' since very often old habits do naturally still perk up every now and then, while in cartoons this often treated as a snap back and the character not learning their lesson.

    Yes Ash should probably be underplayed a bit as he develops but at the same time you don't have to make him totally void of his original personality, in other words, intentionally idealise him and make him blander.

    If anything one of the things I prefer about the other series is that the dynamic is usually more even handed. Even in episodes Ash is a dimwit he's usually paired with or against characters that are either hypocrites in that regard (eg. Misty, Iris) or are more intellectual but still have defects in other areas (eg. Brock, Cilan) so everyone gets a moment of clarity. I feel like there was a start here early on, with Clemont being an experienced gym leader and a gadgeteer genius, but also insecure and blundering, a full on brains vs brawn (or heart) contrast to Ash, but after a while, Ash got put on a pedestal more and more over Clemont and his stiffly written personality meant they could never really take advantage of the dynamic fully. This is something I think SM did at least a bit better due to Ash having a clearer set of foibles and eccentricities, while also maintaining his experience and confidence, so the issue of clarity is still pretty even handed against Ash and his more educated class mates like Lillie and Sophocles.
  10. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "And just what are you staring at?"

    Eh. He had his limelight. Now he's just some conflicted kid with strong emotions for some other kid to me. Ha ha.
  11. LilligantLewis

    LilligantLewis primarina donna

    anyway the new SSS is Shiron "Snowball" Snowy.
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  12. DatsRight

    DatsRight Well-Known Member

    No no, it's the Super Special Satoshi Search and Smash Squad. :p
  13. AznKei

    AznKei Rabi-Ribi's Cocoa is cute! ^_^

    That would be SSSS&SS, and that's sure alot of Ss.
  14. LilligantLewis

    LilligantLewis primarina donna

    It's 6 S's and six also starts with S.
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  15. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

    Nope this is Wally. This scene here alone shows that Wally and Sawyer are two very different friendly rivals.
  16. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "And just what are you staring at?"

    That's comic Wally, you dingus.
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  17. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

    And it does a good job of capturing Wally's character as a ill frail boy whose parents tell them they can't have a Pokemon who will eventually become the confident young experienced trainer whose illness seems to somehow slowly disappeared over time. Way different from Sawyer. That and badass theme music.
  18. Spider-Phoenix

    Spider-Phoenix Go, Go Power Rangers

    I consider him a combination of Wally and Brendan (the male player character), although mostly of the later.

    If you notice the patterns on his outfit and the silhouette, his look is based on Brendan (much like Ash's was based on Red with a few of Calem's thrown in the mix). He started on Littleroot and got his starter - which ain't a Ralts - from Birch much like the PC.

    I think the only similarities to Wally is the whole "you gotta have green hair" thing, the friendly rival with significant growth and the youngish look thing.

    Except he is adorable. And I don't see how Wally would be an inspiration...

    But agreed about battle theme. ORAS did wonders for Wally with that song. I've never used to care about the games' music - not my cup of tea - until I heard that.

    Nah, the next thing is SSSS as the Gridman anime has proved.
  19. Twilight-Kun

    Twilight-Kun Pokemon World Champion

    > People thinking Wally's terrible encounter theme that is too short, doesn't loop properly, goes nowhere in its composition and doesn't fit a battle at all is "a good song"

    Ahahaha, life's wonders never cease

    As for XY compared to other anime...eh, it has its niche, but it's no Naruto, Shippuden, Boruto, Dragon Ball Super, or many other anime at the time

    Compared to the rest of the pokémon anime, it's leaps ahead in terms of music, story, and characters though
  20. Spider-Phoenix

    Spider-Phoenix Go, Go Power Rangers

    We are refering to that theme from ORAS, when we met Wally before taking on the E4.

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