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How should gen 8 ash be handled?

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by mehmeh1, Nov 5, 2018.

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  1. Power Up

    Power Up ...

    This is really my problem with SM Ash as well. He isn't consistent and he's been reduced to simple personality traits in SM
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  2. AznKei

    AznKei Badass girls saving their boyfriends. XD

    I like to discuss things and I disagree to your statements regardless of the title of the thread, is that a problem to you? But yeah, I'll just drop this since it's getting off-topic after a while.
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  3. mysticalglacia

    mysticalglacia Alola Shill

    ...There’s a difference between abusing Pokémon in pursuit of strength and working together with them to reach that same ideal. DP Ash was no more preachy than Paul, who at every other occasion would state his methods. That’s what made their rivalry so great; there was tension installed in their beliefs. Ash had no reason to take that issue up with Alain because he wasn’t much different from Ash. If Alain has been his complete opposite, preachy Ash would’ve been full throttle. He’s always been preachy. The Team Flare arc especially brought that out again.
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  4. Power Up

    Power Up ...

    An ideal Ash would be XY/XYZ Ash with the cocky and arrogance at times in OS/AG. This iteration would accurately cover all facets of Ash's character and could go even further than XY/XYZ Ash did developing Ash as a character
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  5. Genaller

    Genaller May 16th 2016 - October 12th 2019

    Yeah except by the end of DP Ash had come to accept that Paul’s methods were just as valid as his own and even subtly acknowledged them by deliberately having Infernape take a direct hit Thunder in order to activate special Blaze which was exactly the kind of thing you’d expect from Paul. There’s this big misinterpretation by the fans that the climax of Ash and Paul’s rivalry says that Ash is right and Paul is wrong when it’s actually that both of their methods are equally valid despite contrasting so much. At the end of the day Paul’s other Pokémon were genuinely upset when they heard he lost which would never have been the case if they truly thought he was abusing them. Paul is usually very good at determining a Pokémon’s potential and what their breaking point is, but went too far with Chimchar because of frustration at the deviation of what he saw from Chimchar upon first meeting him, and the performances he was giving since then. In the end Chimchar wasn’t a fit for Paul’s style, but many of his other pokémon that he didn’t release were and seemed just fine with Paul’s way of doing things. I genuinely believe that if XY Ash met someone like Paul, he wouldn’t be nearly as quick to get all preachy on him about how he’s definitely in the wrong since he learnt to know better in DP. Also please don’t compare Paul’s case to that of a psychopath bent on literal global genocide.
  6. Redstar45


    ? Far as i remember Alain is not a psychopaths .....a guy who have issued ? Sure
  7. SH65

    SH65 Victory Over All!

    I think he was talking about Lysandre
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  8. Genaller

    Genaller May 16th 2016 - October 12th 2019

    I was referring to Lysandre cuz the guy talked about Ash being preachy during the TF climax in order to show that XY Ash was just as preachy as DP Ash.
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  9. Redstar45


    Heh sorry and about that preachy Satoshi. ?.....i will take him over super preachy superman lol
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  10. J.Agera

    J.Agera Well-Known Member

    You really need to stop pretending that you watched XY.
  11. J.Agera

    J.Agera Well-Known Member

    No problem if you disagree but you are making up some things which I never intended.
    Besides, I didn't state my opinions. I was being objective.
  12. Hydrangea

    Hydrangea Eternally Pouty Staff Member Moderator

    Considering this thread has basically turned into people insulting one another I'm going to go ahead and close it.

    Minor debates are fine but please do not personally attack other users/their opinions.
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