We have no idea how good Incineroar is. It's never competed in a single battle. I would not give it the benefit of the doubt until it does. I agree it's good, but certainly not top 6 good. I would put Melmetal, Naganadel, and Lycanroc above it.
Incineroar is easily Ash’s strongest Alolan Pokemon. Kukui’s Incineroar casually grabbed Melmetal’s DIB while an unmastered one left Silvally reeling, also overpowered Flash Cannon relatively easily and Torracat proceeded to beat it. Lycanroc lost to Kukui’s Braviary and Naganadel struggled a bit against Lucario(With their Dragon Pulses being equal in power) Ash’s Torracat literally defeated Kukui’s ace, you can’t be any more blunt than that, especially seeing how easily Incineroar dealt with Melmetal, yes you can go on about type disadvantage but the battle wouldn’t have turned out different given how Incineroar was even matching and arguably slightly stronger than Melmetal in physical strength and overpowered Flash Cannon with Darkest Lariat
It’s mainly Pikachu, otherwise his Pokémon have pretty established levels of strength and it’s easy to scale for the most part
I mean it's safe to say that Incineroar retained the power that Torracat had as the whole narrative of that battle was Torracat making Blast Burn its own power and yes he should've went up against Turtonator but it's guaranteed he'll essentially come out stronger the next time we see him
I would have to disagree, I'd consider Talonflame his strongest bird on the basis of feats. It took a charge beam and thunderbolt from Zapdos to put him down and was able to knock Moltres back and tag it with Brave Bird right after evolving, even as a Fletchinder it was able to damage Mega Lucario. In terms of all of Ash's flying types/birds, I'd say it's Talonflame>Hawlucha>Swellow>Gliscor>Noivern>Rowlet>Staraptor>Noctowl>Unfezant>Pidgeot>Butterfree
Bruh, bad win rate doesn’t equate to weak whatsoever, feats and matchups are significantly more important. Torkoal had a lot of losses but it got stronger training at Oak’s lab and managed to bring Brandon’s Registeel to its knees, plus the fact that Ash even chose to use it against Tobias shows that he trusts he’s a strong Pokémon, it did get one shotted but so did Heracross and it wasn’t gonna win a beam struggle against Darkrai. And Gliscor has had a lot of losses prior to training(Key word: Prior to training) but let’s look at each of them, lost to Gliscor as a timid Gligar which was obvious, tied with Barry’s Roserade who wasn’t necessarily a pushover(Beat Chimchar albeit weakened) lost to Snover(Significant disadvantage plus to give Chimchar two wins), lost to Torterra who was literally Paul’s ace alongside Electivire and he still managed to leave him panting and lost to McCann’s Scizor twice prior to training which was obvious given how much more experienced he is plus it’s part of Gliscor’s arc, Staraptor, Buizel and Grotle wouldn’t have done any better against McCann’s Scizor either. As for Torterra, that Electivire knew Ice Punch and was even giving Pikachu trouble, it took multiple hits from Bertha’s Hippowdon and even landed a Leaf Storm and apart from Gliscor was the only one who could even damage Drapion(+Overpowered Cross Poison with Energy Ball) while Buizel and Staraptor got stomped so no Torterra is not weak. By your logic, Scraggy is stronger than Sceptile(48%) because he has a higher win rate. So yes on the basis that Gliscor was able to defeat Drapion(Gliscor also took some damage from Ninjask so they were essentially on equal “health” when they fought despite Torterra’s hits) without too much worry is a great feat given how it plowed through half of Ash’s team and showcased a lot of great manoeuvrability such as essentially cancelling out the recharge effect of Giga Impact, etc and as for its loss against Electivire, wasn’t 100% plus Paul’s Electivire is a beast, none of Ash’s other Sinnoh mons apart from Pikachu and Infernape stood a chance
My point still stands, also Sceptile’s win rate is actually 48%(10-11), let’s take another example then, Kingler with a 71% win rate and Torterra with 33%, Torterra faced significantly stronger opponents and held his own against Bertha plus did a better job against Drapion than Staraptor and Buizel as mentioned prior. And once again, bad win rate does not equate to being weak, feats and matchups are significantly more important.
