How would you rank Ashs Pokémon using the tier system?

[Emboar_Rulez]

Yeah he beat Magmar... and? He ended up losing to Blastoise immediately after that. As for the 'decent' damage he did on Darkrai, like how would we even be able to rate how much damage he did with Megahorn when the anime doesn't use health bars in regular battles?

Heracross defeated Scizor and Magmar so why are you surprised he lost to Blastoise (Gary’s strongest Pokémon) right after?Also he lasted longer against Darkrai than Gible or Torkoal.

 

[Leonhart]

I consider Pikachu [at his peak], Lizardon, Goukazaru, Kabigon, Gekkouga, and Jukain to be at the top when it comes to tiers. Then things like Waruvial, Fiarrow, Ohsubame, Magmarashi, and other above average to average battlers would be in the middle tier. All the other Pokemon would be at the bottom.

 

[Emboar_Rulez]

I think we can all agree that Torterra,Totodile,Pidgeot,and Torkoal are bottom tier.

 

[CMButch]

I think we can all agree that Torterra,Totodile,Pidgeot,and Torkoal are bottom tier.

Not Torterra and Torkoal.

 

[Applecorp]

He lost to Gary’s Blastoise in the Johto league.

Yeah thanks for reminding me. Still his record was like 50% wins and 50% losses. Wasn't Cyndaquil's battle record better than Heracross's?

 

[JustAStatistic]

I think we can all agree that Torterra,Totodile,Pidgeot,and Torkoal are bottom tier.

Torterra's not top tier, but every loss it had was against a strong Pokémon belonging to a strong trainer, so it's definitely not bottom tier.

Yeah thanks for reminding me. Still his record was like 50% wins and 50% losses. Wasn't Cyndaquil's battle record better than Heracross's?

Why look at win record? Quilava's best win (Nando's Armaldo) is comparable to Heracross' win against Nando's Kriketune, but then Heracross has a win against Gary's Magmar and decent showing against Tobias' Darkrai on top of that.

 

[Emboar_Rulez]

Torterra's not top tier, but every loss it had was against a strong Pokémon belonging to a strong trainer, so it's definitely not bottom tier.


Why look at win record? Quilava's best win (Nando's Armaldo) is comparable to Heracross' win against Nando's Kriketune, but then Heracross has a win against Gary's Magmar and decent showing against Tobias' Darkrai on top of that.

Someone else who appreciates Ashs Heracross!

 

[Leonhart]

Yeah thanks for reminding me. Still his record was like 50% wins and 50% losses. Wasn't Cyndaquil's battle record better than Heracross's?

I don't remember what Magmarashi's battle record was like, but at least we can say that he battled more than Heracross did, so it was easier to consider him a good battler. I don't think either of them could be considered a true "powerhouse", but in my mind Heracross didn't seem that impressive outside of maybe the battle against Darkrai, but even then all he did was land one hit if I remember right.

 

[Emboar_Rulez]

I don't remember what Magmarashi's battle record was like, but at least we can say that he battled more than Heracross did, so it was easier to consider him a good battler. I don't think either of them could be considered a true "powerhouse", but in my mind Heracross didn't seem that impressive outside of maybe the battle against Darkrai, but even then all he did was land one hit if I remember right.

According to a popular chart made a few years ago Heracross has won 50% of his battles and Quilava has won 54%.The chart was made during the end of X and Y but Heracross hasn’t battled since Sinnoh so it doesn’t affect his score.I don’t know if it counts ties as wins or losses though.

 

[RafaSceptile]

According to a popular chart made a few years ago Heracross has won 50% of his battles and Quilava has won 54%.The chart was made during the end of X and Y but Heracross hasn’t battled since Sinnoh so it doesn’t affect his score.I don’t know if it counts ties as wins or losses though.

Quilava: 10W 7L 1D (57.89%)
Heracross: 3W 4L (42.86%)