Emboar_Rulez
Pokémon Master (Kinda)
What champion was a total pushover and which one took you several tries to beat?
I'm pretty sure lore wise Leon is the strongest champion and man he is hella strong and difficult to beat but cynthia was probably harder coz there didn't exist the exp share for all Pokemon and coz Pokemon games weren't that handpicky then. Lance was terrifying too. Steven was never terrifying for me. Diantha was a pushover so was kukui. Alder was in a rematch so that doesn't count and he wasn't that hard. Iris was a bit difficult.
So my ranking is
1. Cynthia/Leon (Lore wise Leon but considering game mechanics then it's cynthia)
2. Iris
3. Lance
4. Alder
5. Steven
6. Kukui
7. Diantha
N/Ghetsis hm, should i count them? Well if i do N wasn't hard tbh but Ghetsis was. And Blue trace were average imo. Not very tough. If i have to include themWhat about Trace,Blue,and N/Ghetsis?
Going by the first matches in the first games in which they are champion:
Pretty Tough
Cynthia (genuinely well-balanced teams, Garchomp was OP)
Kukui (rocks and tailwind with a strong team, also quite well-balanced)
Steven (Used a small variety of types with good defensive synergy. Metagross was a powerhouse, while Skarmory's toxic could be a problem with so many bulky mons in the back)
Iris (Has a couple of mons that handle dragon's ice weakness well. .)
Pretty Easy
Leon (strong individual mons, and adapts his team around the starter that beats your to help with coverage, but like all SwSh NPCs he's terrible at using Dynamax at the right time. And he's kind of a basic powergamer).
Trace (never played this one, but looks like he's weaker than Yellow Blue, but a lot tougher than RBG Blue, no synergy. Mons have low BST but diverse typing.).
Lance (super vulnerable to bolt-beam, three underleveled dragonites = three ice beams)
Alder (super weak to rock, but escavalier hits surprisingly hard and Volc can sweep easily)
Complete pushover
Wallace (a mono-water team, rain just helps me nuke everything with thunder. Only troublesome mon was the ludicolo with leech seed and double team and the stally milotic)
Diantha (super weak to steel, and ice, no real team synergy, Mega Gardevoir and Goodra were the only really problematic one)
Blue (dude you are the champion, why does your Arcanine have ember? Why don't Exeggutor or Rhyhorn have any STAB moves?)
SerGoldenhandtheJust said:I'm pretty sure lore wise Leon is the strongest champion and man he is hella strong and difficult to beat but cynthia was probably harder coz there didn't exist the exp share for all Pokemon and coz Pokemon games weren't that handpicky then. Lance was terrifying too. Steven was never terrifying for me. Diantha was a pushover so was kukui. Alder was in a rematch so that doesn't count and he wasn't that hard. Iris was a bit difficult.
So my ranking is
1. Cynthia/Leon (Lore wise Leon but considering game mechanics then it's cynthia)
2. Iris
3. Lance
4. Alder
5. Steven
6. Kukui
7. Diantha
Alder was easy with Emboar literally being able to solo his team/most of him team so I think Iris was harder. Kukui was definitely more difficult than HauDo you guys think the champion in Black 2 is stronger than the champion in Black? Also is Kukui stronger than Hau in your opinion?
what about red1. Cynthia (her team is diverse with great movesets)
2. Lance (mostly because of Thunder Wave)
3. Iris (a Haxorus with Focus Sash is a nasty surprise)
4. Steven (Claydol and Cradily are annoying)
5. Blue (even in FR/LG, his team's movesets aren't that good)
6. Wallace (Milotic is tough, Double Team on Ludicolo is annoying)
7. Alder (even Volcarona is easily take down with physical attacks)