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How you would improve/change the Johto Gym Leaders.

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surfer treecko

Highly Explosive
I'm sure that most people who have played G/S/C think that the gym leaders were pushovers, or at least could have done with a better team. Now, to the point, how exactly would you improve them?

So, this is what I think they should of used...

Falkner

Spearow Lvl 9
Hoothoot Lvl 10
Pidgeotto Lvl 12

Bugsy

Butterfree Lvl 14
Beedrill Lvl 14
Scyther Lvl 17

Whitney

Jigglypuff Lvl 20
Clefairy Lvl 20
Miltank Lvl 22

Morty

Haunter Lvl 24
Misdreavus Lvl 23
Gengar Lvl 25

Chuck

Hitmontop Lvl 28
Primeape Lvl 29
Poliwrath Lvl 32

Jasmine

Skarmory Lvl 32
Scizor Lvl 32
Magneton Lvl 32
Steelix Lvl 33

Price

Swinub Lvl 31
Seel Lvl 31
Sneasel Lvl 32
Dewgong Lvl 33
Piloswine Lvl 35

Claire

Same as before.


So, just say what you think.
 

bulb182

Member
Pretty much the same as the guy above, but give Chuck a Machoke too :)

I never understood why Morty didn't have a Misdreavus =/
 

weavile33

< - Pure awesome!
My G/S improved levels

Here's what i think they should've had - keeping similar levels to the originals

Falkner:
Hoothoot L8
Pidgeotto L10

Bugsy:
Ledyba L14
Spinarak L14
Scyther L16

Whitney:
Clefairy L19
Jigglypuff L19
Miltank L21

Morty:
Gastly L20
Haunter L22
Misdrevus L23
Gengar L25

Chuck:
Machoke L28
Primeape L29
Poliwrath L31

Jasmine:
Magnemite L30
Magneton L32
Skarmory L34
Steelix L35

Pryce:
Swinub L30
Dewgong L33
Sneasel L33
Piloswine L35
(You can battle Pryce before Chuck/Jasmine therefore i had to make his levels similar to Jasmine's - however in G/S/C this wasn't the case as he levels lower than her, something I found stupid)

Claire:
Seadra L37
Dragonair L37
Dragonair L37
Kingdra L40
 

Zenotwapal

have a drink on me
Here's mine!

Falkner
Pideotto Lv14
Hoothoot lv12
spearow lv12

Bugsy
Syther lv21
heracross lv18
beedrill lv18
Butterfree lv17

Whitney
Milktank lv 26
clefairy lv 23
Sentret lv25
Raticate lv24

Clair
Dragonair lv45
dratini lv40
Gyarados lv43

Thats all i can remember..... for now.....
 
would just increase the levels of the pokemon, not really add anything to them

im not going to write them all down, because i can't remember them all
but i think that Faulkners gym in particular needs the pokemon levels raised, in order to make the other gyms harder
 
I think the Pokemon they used were fine, but they should've been at higher levels. I always completed the game way too quickly for my preference..
 

Luxray101

Well-Known Member
Falkner:

Hoothoot lv 12
Pidgeotto lv 15

Bugsy:

Spinarak lv 14
Ledyba lv 15
Scyther lv 18

Whitney:

Aipom lv 19
Stantler lv 22

Morty:

Misdreavus lv 23
Haunter lv 24
Gengar lv 26

Chuck:

Hitmontop lv 28
Heracross lv 31

Jasmine:

Skarmory lv 33
Steelix lv 36

Pryce:

Swinub lv 32
Piloswine lv 34
Sneasel lv 37

Clair:

Dragonair lv 39
Dragonair lv 39
Kingdra lv 43



thats what i think
 
Up the levels, catch more exotic Pokemon, have some Gym Leaders be some what more challenging (I'm looking at you, Pryce).

Basically everything that everybody, everywhere, has ever said about the Gyms.
 

foxyman1167

From Zero To Hero
Falkner:
lvl 11 HootHoot
lvl 14 Pidgeotto

Bugsy:
lvl 15 Butterfree
lvl 15 Beedrill
lvl 19 Scyther

Whitney:
lvl 21 Igglybuff
lvl 22 Clefairy
lvl 25 Miltank

Morty:
lvl 26 Misdreavus
lvl 26 Haunter
lvl 28 Misdreavus
lvl 30 Gengar

Chuck:
lvl 36 Machoke
lvl 37 Primeape
lvl 37 Hitmontop
lvl 39 Poliwrath

Jasmine:
lvl 38 Magnemite
lvl 39 Magneton
lvl 41 Skarmory
lvl 42 Steelix

Pryce:
lvl 40 Sneasel
lvl 40 Dewgong
lvl 42 Jynx
lvl 43 Piloswine

Clair:
lvl 44 Seadra
lvl 44 Dragonair
lvl 45 Dragonite
lvl 46 Kingdra
 

Fused

Shun the nonbeliever
Well, I would like to see:

Falkner
Hoothoot lv. 10
Spearow/Doduo lv. 12
Pidgeotto lv. 14

Bugsy
Spinarak lv. 15
Ledian lv. 18
Scyther lv. 16

Whitney
Clefairy lv. 18
Aipom/Togetic lv. 16
Miltank lv. 20

Morty
Gastly lv. 21
Haunter lv. 22
Misdreavus lv. 22
Gengar lv. 25

Chuck
Machoke lv. 28
Hitmontop lv. 28
Primeape lv. 28
Poliwrath lv. 32

Jasmine
Magneton lv. 34
Steelix lv. 36
Skarmory lv. 34

Pryce
Dewgong lv. 38
Cloyster lv. 40
Delibird lv. 40
Piloswine lv. 42

Clair
Dragonair lv. 46
Seadra lv. 46
Gyarados lv. 46
Kingdra lv. 50
 

Concept

Führer of Fun
To all of you who've suggested beefing up Whitney's Miltank; do you not remember how powerful that thing is as it is at level 20?
 

ElegyCity

Do we get ice cream?
Up the levels, catch more exotic Pokemon, have some Gym Leaders be some what more challenging (I'm looking at you, Pryce).

Basically everything that everybody, everywhere, has ever said about the Gyms.

This says it all to me. The only thing I would add is increase the roster size's as well. No gym should have only two pokes, the first gym could have maybe 3 or 4 and all subsequent gyms a 4 poke minimum. I mean honestly a full 5 or 6 for some of the gym's (bugsy) would not even present a challenge.
 

TryaniBu

Shiny Hunter
I think that they can improve there teams bu the gym maze is the part that need improvment like

in GYM1 you have to catch a pidgey with a key. like the farfecthed in ILEX forest and the key opens a door to the leader.

ther are hole that the pidgey can fly over but you cant
 

Slowking[George]

#SPP-WiFi HOP
Stronger Gym Leaders, with modified teams:

Falkner: Hoothoot, Doduo, Pidgeotto
Bugsy: Spinarak, Metapod, Scyther
Whitney: Clefairy, Snubbul, Miltank
Morty: Gastly, Haunter, Misdreavus, Gengar
Chuck: Machoke, Primeape, Poliwrath
Jasmine: Magnemite, Magneton, Skarmory, Steelix
Pryce: Delibird, Cloyster, Dewgong, Piloswine
Clair: Kingdra, Gyarados, Dragonair
 

Alloute

Banned
I just want Falkner to have a Hoot Hoot and his other Pokes to be lv 12-14.

They all need a face-lift.
 

BynineB

Wielding Übersaw.
Falkner
Hoothoot lv. 10
Spearow lv. 11
Pidgeotto lv. 12

Bugsy
Araidos lv. 15
Ledian lv. 15
Scyther lv. 18

Whitney
Cleffa lv. 18
Aipom lv. 20
Miltank lv. 23

Morty
Haunter lv. 25
Misdreavus lv. 27
Gengar lv. 28

Chuck
Hitmonchan lv. 32
Hitmonlee lv. 32
Hitmontop lv. 32
Poliwrath lv. 35

Jasmine
Foretress lv. 37
Magneton lv. 37
Skarmory lv. 38
Steelix lv. 40

Pryce
Sneasel lv. 40
Jynx lv. 41
Dewgong lv. 41
Piloswine lv. 44

Clair
Dragonair lv. 42
Charizard lv. 44
Kingdra lv. 45
Gyarados lv. 46
Dragonite lv. 50

How 'bout that?
 
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