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i hate this team

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PatTar

yee.
i hate this team because it has the same tyranitar weak that has plagued all my previous RMTs. seriously, what stops it? Donphan and Swampert maybe, but they won't live forever. Kabarudon has Slack Off, and better overall defenses, but SandStream could end up in it hurting your team more than helping.

anyway, RMT.

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Empoleon @ Leftovers
<Torrent>
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 56 SAtk / 40 SDef
- Aqua Ring
- Protect
- Surf
- Grass Rope

this isn't leading. it's just in front because i can't think of anything else to lead with. :/
Alternatives: Swampert, Suicune, Vaporeon, Milotic, Slowbro, etc.

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Claydol @ Leftovers
<Levitate>
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 176 SAtk / 80 Def
- Ice Beam
- Land Power
- Rapid Spin
- Light Screen

covers Empoleons weaknesses.
Alternatives: Donphan is probably the best.

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Salamence @ Leftovers
<Intimidate>
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
EVs: needs help.
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast / Fang

is meh. yesiwillbreedforanothershinymencewithddandiwillfindone.
Alternatives: Gyarados, Dragonite.

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Jirachi @ Leftovers
<Serene Grace>
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Atk / 76 Def / 136 Spd
- Wish
- Reflect
- Psychic Headbutt
- Somersault

is phuquoph.
Alternatives: nah.

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Weezing @ Leftovers
<Levitate>
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt
- Haze
- Pain Split / Will-o-Wisp

some sort of gyara counter-ish.
Alternatives: Donphan. Phan could also help with Tar.

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Blissey @ Leftovers
<Natural Cure>
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled

special wallage.
Alternatives: Crecelia, Emuritto.
 
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Inazuma

Kyokudo <33
Pretty soild.But a like you said,T-tar can cause problems.
If it's a DDTar,possibly Weezing can Haze.
Other than that,I don't a counter for T-tar,my team has this problem as well.
 
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Megamiz

Neverchanging Avvie
OOOoooh, pictures o_O

I didn't get a good look at your team but I did notice Weezing. I would say it need more Thunder over TBolt. Also if you want two attacking moves, go w/Fire Blast for Manmuu, more acc on Skarm and Jirachi over Sludge Bomb (they both hit Celebi).
It needs better EVs too: 252 HP/ 176 Def/ 84 SpAtk or 252 HP/ 184 Def/ 76 SpAtk. I say your offensive Weez needs the former EV spread.
 
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starterlover1

Emperor Coordinator
-Mad Mod- said:
i hate this team because it has the same tyranitar weak that has plagued all my previous RMTs. seriously, what stops it? Donphan and Swampert maybe, but they won't live forever. Kabarudon has Slack Off, and better overall defenses, but SandStream could end up in it hurting your team more than helping.

anyway, RMT.

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Empoleon @ Leftovers
<Torrent>
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)Modest Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 56 SAtk / 40 SDef6 HP; 252 Sp.Atk, 252 Speed
- Aqua RingIce Beam
- ProtectAgility
- Surf
- Grass Rope

this isn't leading. it's just in front because i can't think of anything else to lead with. :/
Alternatives: Swampert, Suicune, Vaporeon, Milotic, Slowbro, etc.

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Claydol @ Leftovers
<Levitate>
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 176 SAtk / 80 Def
- Ice Beam
- Land Power
- Rapid Spin
- Light ScreenStealth Rock

covers Empoleons weaknesses.
Alternatives: Donphan is probably the best.

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Salamence @ Leftovers
<Intimidate>
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
EVs: needs help.
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast / Fang

is meh. yesiwillbreedforanothershinymencewithddandiwillfindone.
Alternatives: Gyarados, Dragonite.

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Heracross@Adherence Scarf
Adamant; 6 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Speed

In-Fight
Megahorn
Blade Test
Stone Edge

Use this instead of Jirachi. It either scares of T-tar or you kill it with In-Fight.

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Weezing @ Leftovers
<Levitate>
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt
- Haze
- Pain Split / Will-o-WispWoW

some sort of gyara counter-ish.
Alternatives: Donphan. Phan could also help with Tar.

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Blissey @ Leftovers
<Natural Cure>
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled

special wallage.
Alternatives: Crecelia, Emuritto.
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Suggestions in bold; pay attention to Heracross.
 
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starterlover1

Emperor Coordinator
parasectdude said:
AScross doesn't max speed. 264.

Kabarudon Sand Stream doesn't matter, you're facing a Tar, who has Sand Stream ITSELF.

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AScross hits can hit 403 speed with a neutral nature to speed and AS. I think he meant Sand Stream hurts HIS team more than he wants.
 
Raito

Raito

HADOUKEN!
There is absolutely no reason to run max speed Heracross. 265 is the bare max, and that's iffy.
 
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aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
Raito Light said:
There is absolutely no reason to run max speed Heracross. 265 is the bare max, and that's iffy.
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I'd actually run 252 spd evs (31 iv) with Adamant anyway. It can prove vital when Adherance Scarfing against other AS Heras (As I found out the good way).
 
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ludicolo_kid

Well-Known Member
Why are you even talking about Hera when Jirachi is oodles cooler, and rules this gen with the ability to beat Blissey which everyone and their mum is using. And CBTar isn't really that bad for you. At least it doesn't 6-0 as Claydol can take everything but Crunch and Enperuto will pretty much handle that.
 
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mHMM

[semi-colon]
ludicolo_kid said:
Why are you even talking about Hera when Jirachi is oodles cooler, and rules this gen with the ability to beat Blissey which everyone and their mum is using. And CBTar isn't really that bad for you. At least it doesn't 6-0 as Claydol can take everything but Crunch and Enperuto will pretty much handle that.
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adamant CB hera with In Fight should put Blissey out of commission.
 
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starterlover1

Emperor Coordinator
ludicolo_kid said:
Why are you even talking about Hera when Jirachi is oodles cooler, and rules this gen with the ability to beat Blissey which everyone and their mum is using. And CBTar isn't really that bad for you. At least it doesn't 6-0 as Claydol can take everything but Crunch and Enperuto will pretty much handle that.
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If we are talking about CBTar, then Earthquake hurts, I'm sure. He wanted a counter for T-tar, so I think AScross works out nicely.

BTW, I'm not too familiar with how Jirachi takes Blissey out so much better than Heracross. Enlighten me, please.
 
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ludicolo_kid

Well-Known Member
The feck? When did I ever say Jirachi took it out better? I'm just saying it's great because it's a Special attacker that doesn't get beaten by the easily most used Special wall and therefore rapes alot of standard teams. Oh nvm, MM (Can i call you that) isn't even using the Sub CMer.
 
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