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I need help on choosing a sub-puncher! ^^

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Shiny Pokemon Chaser Ky

<-Gotcha, 140 eggs!
Ok. I am stuck between Azumarill and Machamp. Azumarill has its huge power trait, and with max. evs in attack, it could be strong. Machamp would get a boost in stab, and has already-high attack power. Plus, with max. evs in this, it would be realley strong, also. Could you help me decide upon which I should use on my team? Thanks in advance.
~ Ky
 
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endlesswaltz

Guest
Either is a great choice, Azumarill is cool he isnt as commonly used imo.
 

pooheadkid

Psychic Trainer
i'd choose neither, tyranitar is the best, make sure its hp is maxed out in iv's and evs. it ll be able to survive a seismic toss from any pokemon.
i have a tyranitar but i messed up on it its iv's for hp wasnt maxed and it only reached 386. it was a waste of substitute.
 

DoubleX

<-- want it
I'd choose Azumarill. It's got a higher HP and thus its Substitutes will have more HP and will last longer.
 

Nick Mckenzie

dddddddddddddddddddd
Azumarill. Machamp is slower and can easily be KO'd if the trainer you're battling's using a fast Psychic Pokemon like Espeon and Alakazam. And Azumarill has more HP.
 

pooheadkid

Psychic Trainer
Nick Mckenzie said:
Azumarill. Machamp is slower and can easily be KO'd if the trainer you're battling's using a fast Psychic Pokemon like Espeon and Alakazam. And Azumarill has more HP.

sub punchers are better w/ lower speed, only an idiot would make a machamp face an alakazam and espeon etc.
 

Mudskipper

The Earthquaker
He's picking a sub-puncher, not a sweeper, Dark Aerodactyl.
Anyway, the rules clearly state that 'choosing team member' threads DO NOT BELONG HERE.
 

Buizeru

Well-Known Member
Pick what ever one you want. Or, have both! This is in-game, so you can do whatever you want.

~Buizeru~
 

WhiteWizard42

Master Breeder
tyranitar, snorlax, azumarill. T-Tar and Azumarill because, with 31 IVs and 252 EVs, they can have 101 Subs (which snorlax also does, but doesn't need the EVs.)

azumarill's problem is that it has almost no other moves to use. your 3rd and 4th moves can be hydro pump, rest, return/body slam/double-edge.

'tar is just amazing. boah (one of the old competitive standards) has sub/punch/bolt/beam, and it just wrecks teams.

lax is better used as curselax or STalkLax.
 

Kev Chi

Guardian
I'd go with Azumarill. Pretty sure it has better defense then Machamp and with its decent HP, it should do pretty good.
 
i use gengar:

Sub
F-Punch
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
 
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