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I think shops should be shut down if they are caught Selling a R Rated Title to kids

KingRaichu

Hail to da king baby
i honestly have no say in this matter...and the entire rating system is sort of pathetic really. Every human being is different in terms of maturity. Something can be traumatizing to an adult...or make a child yawn, and be the same evnt. It varies so greatly from person to person you can't blame anyone for making an error. Because its basically a Russian Roulette.
 

ash5550

Spartan G-26
Why you insulting young people in such a way?

"I do not believe a 10 year old is capable of understanding the Difference between Grand theft Auto and Real life.."

Did a kid like, piss on you or something? People aren't dumb.
 

darkjigglypuff

Borderline Troll
You guys are all getting trolled hard.

His opinion is so stupid and baseless, it WAS OBVIOUS.
 

Katwalk

Active Member
I think more parents stupidly buy kids the games/movies then kids buy them by themselves. If you're letting you 12 yr old go to the store by themselves unsupervised they are lucky if they are just coming back with R-rated movies and not getting kidnapped or something.
 

maxelle

Shadow Stalker
that is the most ignorant, irresponsible, and selfish nonsense i have heard in quite a while, there are limits and children should be protected from it as they sometimes are too young and inexperienced to understand it. plus add that to the fact that the child is not the only one living in the house and therefor it is not a smart decision to let them do whatever they please.

and even as some kids don't prever to socialise for any reason they got it is advicable to stimulate them into getting more interest in it again instead of leaving things like it is and allowing them dissapear from the outside world.

those nannyshows form a good example of what would happen when kids can do what they want. sooner or later the parent won't know how to deal properly with them which will cause even more problems. i suggest you watch one of them, that is practically what happens if people with simulair ideas like you manage to get even more rights for kids of an even lower age.

it already bugs me that 12 to 16 year olds can smoke pod and drink alcohol on the playground in the park. it wil not be solved by telling them that they can do what they want because they are not ready to take the responsibility.

Okay I admit doing whatever they want is too much. But you should allow us. Yes US more freedom than what we already have. And I have watched them, several in fact. I know kids who can do a lot of things and they aren't smoking pot, drinking alcohol, and having sex. We are people too. Just young and short.
 

serenaballerina

Well-Known Member
I agree and disagree with your statement. I do agree that young children should not play overly violent video games as it can really affect them. My boyfriend's five year old brother is allowed to play whatever he wants and he is a little demon child. I'm not saying violent video games is the reason he is like this but I think they contribute to his violent behaviour. He plays Grand Theft Auto for hours everyday and he enjoys taking people out of their cars, shooting them, and taking their money. While I know this is what you do in the game, I am afraid he might act in real life situations. He has already got in trouble for fighting at school and his father used to hit his mother a lot. [Before they got a divorce.]

I disagree because I believe that it is more the parents job to decide wether or not their kids can handle playing these violent games. Some 11-13 year olds can handle such games, while others cannot. A video game store or a rating board should not be the judge of this. I don't think parents who allow their children to play certain video games are stupid. They know their own children better than anyone else and as long as they don't see their child acting out because of these games, I don't see a problem with it. I also agree with previous posters that children should center their lives around video games. I enjoy playing Pokemon and other games but I also enjoy several other activities such as playing my violin, ballet, skating, drawing and writing.

I tried to buy this Dragonball Z box set for my boyfriend's birthday and they wouldn't let me because the girl said I had to be 18. I'm 16 but I couldn't buy it. I guess she saw the words uncut on it or something. The weird thing is I have bought plenty of anime there before and I've never been stopped before. I went in another time and asked one of the managers there and she said the girl must have made a mistake because there is no rule against it as long as it isn't 'adult' anime.
 
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★skydragon★
Okay I admit doing whatever they want is too much. But you should allow us. Yes US more freedom than what we already have. And I have watched them, several in fact. I know kids who can do a lot of things and they aren't smoking pot, drinking alcohol, and having sex. We are people too. Just young and short.

you are people too yes and young and short and i think thast is not the problem. all this doesn't give your parents less reason to lower their guard. young kids have to learn alot about life first which is hard and sometimes even sick if you hear all those stories about grown up people that kidnap children of 10 to force them having sex and to drown them afterwards. believe me you don't want freedom right now as you are not ready to handle it, at least untill you are a full grown person. you can't drive a car safely untill you have practised and earned your license for it that's the same idea.

kids need a responsible person to prevent them from doing stupid things wether it is appreciated or not and some parents are just more protective than others as they only have one chanse to do it right in their entire life, consider it as a gift which you will understand when you are a parent or guardian yourself.
 

Santaria

the best CHOICE?
I see this problem come up a lot. Stores are selling "minors" mature games that shouldn't be sold to them.

Honestly, it won't stop. Many people just don't understand that rated R games are meant for more mature audiences.
 

maxelle

Shadow Stalker
you are people too yes and young and short and i think thast is not the problem. all this doesn't give your parents less reason to lower their guard. young kids have to learn alot about life first which is hard and sometimes even sick if you hear all those stories about grown up people that kidnap children of 10 to force them having sex and to drown them afterwards. believe me you don't want freedom right now as you are not ready to handle it, at least untill you are a full grown person. you can't drive a car safely untill you have practised and earned your license for it that's the same idea.

kids need a responsible person to prevent them from doing stupid things wether it is appreciated or not and some parents are just more protective than others as they only have one chanse to do it right in their entire life, consider it as a gift which you will understand when you are a parent or guardian yourself.

I understand. I never said we want COMPLETE freedom but if adults could just ease up on some rules that don't affect the health of others. Violence in the media has yet to be linked to causing violent symptoms in kids. It's all generated in the MEDIA when violence occurs. It's up to the parents to decide if the child is mature. Driving a car however will affect the lives of others as will drugs. But there are scores of people who watch/play violent games and movie and never harm anyone. It's just those with mental problems who by the way can still rent/watch/ play these if they are above 18, will get ideas because their minds are screwed up. Why make us pay for what a couple of kids decide to do. It's just lumping us all into one general category. And I'm sure half of the teenage population only play and watch these because of the rating. (I'm not in this because I watch horror movies for plot, not gore or violence) and half of America will ease up when they realize we just like to defy the rules, and yes I have talked with people my age and they only do certain stuff because its against the rules, against the grain, and sometimes against the law.
 
The mpaa rating system is complete bullocks.

Its basically a group of 10-13 parents, unqualified parents who haven't a single drop of experience when it comes to these matters, and they rate the film.

And these parents, are also GRANDPARENTS so they are judging films based on what was appropriate for their kids not kids of today.
 

ChedWick

Well-Known Member
People aren't dumb.

Um... Yes, yes they are. People are VERY dumb.



The mpaa rating system is complete bullocks.

Its basically a group of 10-13 parents, unqualified parents who haven't a single drop of experience when it comes to these matters, and they rate the film.

And these parents, are also GRANDPARENTS so they are judging films based on what was appropriate for their kids not kids of today.

I'd like to see some references or proof of this.
 

Red Globe

Si Vis Amor, ama
Games are games. If a kid cannot separate the reality from games, don't buy the kid games. Doesn't get very much simpler.
 

Blackjack Gabbiani

Clearly we're great!
Probably because there aren't any katanas in your immediate vicinity.

So you think that if he had access to a katana that he *would* go chop people up just because he played Mortal Kombat as a kid? That's madness.

And speaking of "madness", you guys do realize that not every mentally ill person is violent, right? To ban sales of violent games to mentally ill people would be disgusting discrimination, casting everyone with the stigma of being unstable and unable to discern fantasy from reality, and that's not any more true for the mentally ill than it is for society at large.
 

teetee99

Pokemon master
But their the ones who are selling the crap and we buy it not saying its out fault for buying volent stuff and games but sereously they shouldn't sell that stuff period.
 
But their the ones who are selling the crap and we buy it not saying its out fault for buying volent stuff and games but sereously they shouldn't sell that stuff period.

Lol. They shouldn't sell violent game period on the off chance that kid (or even an adult) who's perception on reality is so skewed that he acts out whatever the game/movie depicts?

If you think this arguement will hold up against corporations/whoever you go after to try and ban violent games/movies, go for it.
 

(s.i.e)

★skydragon★
I understand. I never said we want COMPLETE freedom but if adults could just ease up on some rules that don't affect the health of others. Violence in the media has yet to be linked to causing violent symptoms in kids. It's all generated in the MEDIA when violence occurs. It's up to the parents to decide if the child is mature. Driving a car however will affect the lives of others as will drugs. But there are scores of people who watch/play violent games and movie and never harm anyone. It's just those with mental problems who by the way can still rent/watch/ play these if they are above 18, will get ideas because their minds are screwed up. Why make us pay for what a couple of kids decide to do. It's just lumping us all into one general category. And I'm sure half of the teenage population only play and watch these because of the rating. (I'm not in this because I watch horror movies for plot, not gore or violence) and half of America will ease up when they realize we just like to defy the rules, and yes I have talked with people my age and they only do certain stuff because its against the rules, against the grain, and sometimes against the law.

i don't mind the idea that you are all lumped into one general catagory when it comes to videogames. the less younger kids are exposed to animated violence, sex, & fowl language the less chanse there is that they will actualy try it out for themselfs without knowing the risks.

here is an example: in the netherlands there was an incident a few years ago, some random idiot threw a brick off a bridge that was above a highway hitting a car killing one innocent person because he got the brick in his face and crashed into the railing.
it was national news and litterly every channel was hyped up about it for quite some time and for some stupid reason there were multiple reports on the news of other people doing it over the months after that as well, it wasn't the same person since he was already locked up but they were kids from the age of 12 to 16 who happen to have heard it on the news and decided to try it out with a friend for the fun to see what happens.

all young people learn by copying the behaviore they see, that is a very normal thing to do for most mammels. there will allways be the risk that they can try out something stupid and you know how creative those videogames can be when it comes to violence, sex, & fowl language.

i think those people who came up with the idea have thought this over aswell.
they cannot be underestimated.
 

Volt of Noid

<-- Best Shiny ever
I know what your saying, and I know your right but...

What 13 year old NZ Male doesn't own a copy of Call of Duty 4?
 

(s.i.e)

★skydragon★
I know what your saying, and I know your right but...

What 13 year old NZ Male doesn't own a copy of Call of Duty 4?

not much but there are kids who indeed have them or borrow them from their bigger bro's or other friends. that's what this discussion is all about.
 
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