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If homosexuality is not a mental disorder...

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Grey Wind

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This thing is getting a little scary.... and gay.
Please stop using gay as an adjective.

Your'e missing the point (for the millionth time). Homosexuality and Pedophilia can both harm the people involved in some situations, but they can both not harm the people involved in other situations. There is no difference when it comes to harm.
Yes, but heterosexuality can harm some people too.
 

Geekachu

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Your'e missing the point (for the millionth time). Homosexuality and Pedophilia can both harm the people involved in some situations, but they can both not harm the people involved in other situations. There is no difference when it comes to harm.

You're missing any point that's thrown at you. Any sexual orientation can cause harm. Bringing up rape and STI's is just like shooting yourself in the foot, because lo and behold- heterosexuality is a large source of rape and STI's too!
 

Grei

not the color
Your'e missing the point (for the millionth time). Homosexuality and Pedophilia can both harm the people involved in some situations, but they can both not harm the people involved in other situations. There is no difference when it comes to harm.

Guess what?

Heterosexuality can harm the people involved in some situations, but it can not harm the people involved in other situations. You're proving absolutely nothing other than that some things can be harmful. Whoop-dee-doo.
 

CSolarstorm

New spicy version

By standing up for homosexuality, we don't defend homosexual rapists or homosexual pedophiles. We are standing up for functional homosexual adult couples. Four out of five of those articles are about rape. This is a strawman. Nobody here is condoning rape, no matter who does it. Only the fifth article vaguely describes the harm that a consenting adult homosexual couple causes.

Worst thing is, I'm sure you understood this already.


I hope all pedophiles turn around and live a healthy life. I've got nothing against them as people.
 

tibrado

of the Shattered Sun
Your lack of statistics is astounding! I don't care about the cause. You said that homos don't have a higher risk of HIV. In reality, they do. Sorry if you don't like reality.

Your main point in posting that CDC report was that homosexuality is harmful because of HIV. You're ignoring the fact that according to the CDC, 43% of new transmissions is by heterosexuals
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/us.htm

Your'e missing the point (for the millionth time). Homosexuality and Pedophilia can both harm the people involved in some situations, but they can both not harm the people involved in other situations. There is no difference when it comes to harm.
If you're basing your statement on examples of rape, The same can be said about heterosexuality and pedophilia.
http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/sexualassault/rapestatistics.htm
Every 45 seconds someone in the United States is sexually assaulted (1).
1 out of every 7 women currently in college has been raped (2), however, 9 out of 10 women raped on campus never tell anyone about the rape (3).
1 in 10 men is raped in his lifetime (4), 1 in 7 of those victims will have been assaulted before the age of 18.
More than 61.5% of rapes are never reported to law enforcement (5).
Approximately 28% of rape victims are raped by their husbands, 35% by an acquaintance, and 17% by a relative other than spouse (6).
74% of sexual assaults are perpetrated by assailants well known to the victim (7).
A female child victim is 7 times more likely to be re-victimized as an adult (8).
Nearly 6 out of 10 sexual assaults occur at the victim’s home or the home of a friend, relative, or neighbor (9).
1 in 15 rape victims contract a sexually transmitted disease (STD) as a result of being raped (10).
1 in 15 rape victims become pregnant as a result of being raped (11).
The United States has the world’s highest rape rate of all countries that publish such data- 13 times higher than England and more than 20 times higher than Japan (12).
An American woman is 10 times more likely to be raped than to die in a car crash (13).
61% of rape victims are females under the age of 18 (14).
 

BigLutz

Banned
Yes, but heterosexuality can harm some people too.

All sexualities can harm some one if they give in to basic sexual desires, which in the end usually leads to rape. Saying one sexuality ( and yes that includes pedophilia ) is bad because they may give in to that basic sexual desire, completely neglects a human being's ability to have willpower and overcome our instincts.
 

Peter Quill

star-lord

Ok, first I laughed. Then I was sort of flabbergasted, really. You're taking choice situations and tbh I only read two of them, but the fact that you're trying to use these as reasons as homosexuality is bad is sort of ludicrous. No. Nobody is harmed by homosexuality at all in general. With your logic everybody is harmed by heterosexuality too. Just because choice people do heinous acts really doesn't reflect a group of people.

on the other hand, no one ever charged as a pedophile ever turned around and married and lived a healthy life.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/04/23/man-charged-with-statutory-rape-marries-alleged-victim/
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/man_charged_with_statutory_rap.html

consent and harm do not differentiate homosexuality and pedophilia

You do realize that statutory rape does involve the consent of the younger party, but the fact is that they're under the age of consent that makes it a rape, right? That was consensual sex. Why? Because the teenager in question actually consented to the act. There's a difference between statutory rape and a pedophile molesting a child. Good god.
 

Grey Wind

Well-Known Member
All sexualities can harm some one if they give in to basic sexual desires, which in the end usually leads to rape. Saying one sexuality ( and yes that includes pedophilia ) is bad because they may give in to that basic sexual desire, completely neglects a human being's ability to have willpower and overcome our instincts.
For the last time, pedophilia is not a sexuality. A SEXuality is the SEX you like.
 
Are you, by any chance, 12? Your lack of understanding is the astounding thing here.
Actually, he's 26. But It's not like that matters, because of his behaviour. Ironically, so is BigLutz.
Losing the debate! Have no defense! Must make fun of my opponent's age! :O
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At least, that's how I define them, which is apparently different from everyone else.
thank you
However, there's a consensus on what a mental disorder is--something that causes distress and harm to others and the individual. Pedophiles who are not distressed by their thoughts do not technically have the mental disorder of "pedophilia."
then how are they different than homosexuals #that'smypoint
Homosexuals aren't at higher risk of HIV, and that poll does not show that homosexuals are more likely to get HIV, no matter how many times that you insist that it does. It shows that more homosexuals that were polled had HIV.
Um... forgive my stupidity but um... if more homosexuals have HIV than straights... and um... homosexuals make up a tiny minority of the population... then... um... yeah... homosexuals are more likely to get HIV. This is hillarious bro! Keep it coming!
 

spareux

maldición
Whoever turned this debate into "but paedophilia is a sexuality even if it harms people" lit the path for this thread to arrive at the conclusion that men and women are very good and the usual sources of pain, rape, and STIs.

Hooray.
 
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