In-game challenge?

[Levski]

Do you think that D/P should be a challenge? All Pokemon games are easy to complete, the only real challenges are Link Battles and the Battle Frontier in Emerald. Do you like it the way it is for now, or want a more challenging in-game?

 

[FireHead Hank]

I like the way it is in Emerald with the Battle Frontier. At the start of the game, you have the chance to choose a team of your favorite pokemon no matter how "weak" they are. You can also complete the "main story" with a mono team, which I really like to do. If the game would also be a challenge at the start like the Battle Frontier, you could only complete the game with different pokemon types and maybe only with some "strong" pokemon. That would be so booring 'cause you wouldnt have the free choice of pokemon. But R/S was a little bit boring indeed, because there was NO challenge at all, but Emerald with the Battle Frontier is just perfect.

 

[Meta-Ridley EX]

Or we can have a cup challenge like the ones in Stadium 1 & 2, you know having certain limits like the level 20 or baby pokemon makes them harder, but most important having REAL PRIZES like a pokemon with a a rare move like Giglar with Earthquake or Manyula with Dragon Claw or something even better.

 

[Char1016]

The games are way too easy, except Pokemon Emerald, not that emerald has the battle frontier but most of trainers have high level pokemons. I hope Diamond and Pearl will be like Emerald or maybe even harder.

 

[Levski]

What I mean in in-game challenge is making it harder to beat Gym Leader, evil teams, normal trainers...

 

[jirachiken]

Yeah! It's fun to be challenged!

 

[Leon Phelps]

If they give us evil teams again, they better be hard. Level 17 Zubats aren't my idea of a challenge. Gyms need some diversity too. I find it pathetic that a gym leader can be taken out with one pokemon, as long as it has a type advantage. The Battle Frontier difficulty is just right.

 

[soul of legonds]

I think that not only the gym leaders should be harder, but the mazes to get to them. And more citys and maybe some quests in the main game; like having to catch a rare pokemon to get past a point. Amd more HMs like Ice melt.

 

[Claydol]

I think Diamond and Pearl should have more than one double gym leader like r/s/e did. That was the only thing I found remotely hard.

 

[Team Rocket's Lugia]

i'd like to get to a place in the game where it's actually fun, so I think it should be two storylines, one easy till the elite four or something, and a much harder and challenging second storyline, kinda like G/S/C's kanto, but harder and with a storyline

 

[Wolf Goddess]

Much of the trouble lies within the game's AI. No matter how high the levels get, trainers tend to remain stupid; the Pokemon have poor moves and they use those poor moves against you in an ineffective way. When we start out, the AI should be fairly easy, but the difficulty should increase as the game goes on. Plopping higher level Pokemon on an imbecilic AI does not make the game more difficult. Gym Leaders should, of course, have noticeably harder AI than any previous trainers.

 

[hIrAm]

Much of the trouble lies within the game's AI. No matter how high the levels get, trainers tend to remain stupid; the Pokemon have poor moves and they use those poor moves against you in an ineffective way. When we start out, the AI should be fairly easy, but the difficulty should increase as the game goes on. Plopping higher level Pokemon on an imbecilic AI does not make the game more difficult. Gym Leaders should, of course, have noticeably harder AI than any previous trainers.

Exactly what Wolf Goddess said.

I mean, I would enjoy having the games be slightly more difficult, but it won't happen due to the oh-so-many untrained minds, also known as children under ten, that buy this game, would have no clue as to what to do.

 

[Eszett]

I would actually like to see the AI actually act like an artificial intelligence - being a hotshot computer trainer is wonderful and all, but you'll be behind the game if you can't learn about the player's strategies. Throughout the game, I would like for there to be some terrible AIs for the wild Pokemon, average AIs for the casual trainers, good AIs for scientists and other knowledgable people, but a mastermind AI that adapts to your specific playing style, making note of the Pokemon and movesets you use, which Pokemon you use most often and against which opponents, and which moves you use most often. This AI would be invoked for trainers that are meant to be incredibly challenging, including the Gym leaders and the Elite Four. And, since it is kept pretty recent with your current team, it would change with your team so as not to make it trite, and if you use any one Pokemon much more than others (like that crew that doesn't bother to train any Pokemon except for their starters), the leaders will be sure to give you a harsh beating.

Have fun with this actual challenge.

 

[PDL]

oh sure everyone wants more intelligent AI, but how much can you get from a simple game cartradge?

if they did actually did create an intelligent AI, it would only cause people who aren't amazingly brilliant to say that they cheating or something.

of course, having the AI controlled pokemon having an accuracy/evasion tweaked in their favour would probably even it out

 

[Eszett]

oh sure everyone wants more intelligent AI, but how much can you get from a simple game cartradge?

if they did actually did create an intelligent AI, it would only cause people who aren't amazingly brilliant to say that they cheating or something.

of course, having the AI controlled pokemon having an accuracy/evasion tweaked in their favour would probably even it out

Nah, AIs aren't that spacious. All they are are a series of decisions resolved using the logic from programming. Besides of which, the DS card is a cavern compared to the GBA cart - it can easily store the AI without a hitch.

As for your thing about stumping the less initiated bunch, set a lover level cap for the AI Pokemon - the only thing that makes them challenging right now is that they are a good deal more leveled than your own Pokemon. Now, if the Pokemon were actually good, they could retain the same level of challenge if not become more challenging while still being a lower level.

 

[Deathborn_606]

I hope the difficulty of D/P is the same as in Emerald.

 

[Orion-Sama]

of course, having the AI controlled pokemon having an accuracy/evasion tweaked in their favour would probably even it out

Um... you hit the nail on the head. That's how the challenges of Stadium/Colosseum/Battle Tower/Battle Frontier appear to be difficult.

I'll just say I agree with Eszett's idea. Though it'd be scary to have some GYM Leader living miles away from where I live and that never met me suddenly know my strategy and being able to play try and tweak it.

But yes. The difficulty has to be increased. Tons. Though dumping the Monotype crap would make wonders IMO...

 

[Leon Phelps]

The AI's pokemon don't need their accuracy/evasion stats increased because that's just irritating. My ice beam missed a Flygon 3 times in a row...I understand that there needs to be a challenge, but that isn't the answer. I would prefer the AI to demonstrate strategy and to have better movesets to counter the weaknesses of their pokemon. Something to that effect.

 

[Blazichu]

I like to see D/P a real challenge

 

[Californian_DJ]

yeah, I mean, in R/B/Y I was okay with the difficulty, and I won't say a lot of bad things about the best Pokémon games that have been released untill now (G/S/C) but really in R/S I was a bit disappointed. I had been waiting for those games for a long time, and I played through it without any effort.

emerald was better, some new trainers, nice 2 person double battles. gymleaders had stronger (and more) pokemon, and then there was the battle frontier. for me Emerald is the game R/S should've been.