Red and Blue
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It probably won't happen, but if Ash wins the Kalos League, I really hope it leads to some actual character development for him afterwords
It probably won't happen, but if Ash wins the Kalos League, I really hope it leads to some actual character development for him afterwords
Ash will win a league when dogs become flying fish.
Or when they finally decide to make a pairing for him canon. Getting this more on topic, if I were to attribute "Is Ash really that bad?" to only his standing on love and romance, I can answer the OP's question in 3 words: Goodness ****ing YEEESSSSS!!!
Ash will win a league when dogs become flying fish.
Actually, I do think it's a fair comparison because nothing is forcing them to produce long-running series to begin with. If you don't have enough material for 300 episodes, then don't write that many. Responsible authors put an end to their works before that.It is unfair and incomparable to Digimon series because it runs on a complete different format. If you do have to compare, rather use other long running series that also had over +300 episodes. Such as Dragonball, Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail, Detective Conan, etc.
Actually, I do think it's a fair comparison because nothing is forcing them to produce long-running series to begin with. If you don't have enough material for 300 episodes, then don't write that many. Responsible authors put an end to their works before that.
I used the word "author" really loosely.Pokemon has managed to outlive both the original art staff and its creator. I don't think any of the current writers will live to see the end of this thing.
Pokemon has managed to outlive both the original art staff and its creator. I don't think any of the current writers will live to see the end of this thing.
Yes, he is that bad.
He's a never aging perpetual loser at this point with little to no personality remaining.
And the issue with him is that he has the team to win Leagues if he uses his reserves wisely. The problem is that he never does so.
It's the fact that Ash never wins the big one. He comes close but can never quite pull it off, much like the Buffalo Bills in early 1990s. They got to the Super Bowl three years in a row, and lost each and every one of them. That's a lot like Ash is right now in the animé. I said that he's not as bad a Trainer as a lot of people are portraying him to be, but he's not the best, either. He needs to win a League before he can break through to the upper tiers. And the issue with him is that he has the team to win Leagues if he uses his reserves wisely. The problem is that he never does so.
Well, I say he's a perpetual loser because he loses where it most counts: at the end of each saga at the League- his only notable victories so far were the Orange League and Battle Frontier, though I blame the writers in Japan for them refusing to let him progress. He's being kept in a never ending cycle to be used as a poster child to market the games. It's painful to watch, really.
Like when he had Charizard use a Fighting move against a Ghost type during his competence peak (the BF).
He's also not being voiced well or having decent dialogue written for him in the English dub during the last 9 years or so, but he's not being written well in general by Japan as a character so that's why I say he's bad.
I see your point, but...he isn't progressing in any viable way for now, his League rank even regressed in Unova, he's still 10, and yet he hasn't had any really notable victories in years. He can be a strong trainer, but what does it matter if he loses consistently where it most counts?
If we can agree he's a strong trainer, then there's not much of reason to continue this debate, but I would like to point out that the I believe you are underestimating the league. It is a gathering of the best of the best from all around the world, and only one in several hundred people can win it (There were 256 people in the Indigo Conference, and 512 people in the Ever Grande Conference). The fact that Ash can consistently make it to at least the top 16 and even as high as top 4 is an absolutely incredible achievement if you stop and think about it. Say what you'd like about winning where it counts, but I think it just doesn't matter given his accomplishments.
The leagues were never the "gathering of the best from all around the world". They are all regional leagues, so the best is only the gathering of the best from that specific region, including a few cross-region trainers that are willing to travel to faraway foreign lands.
Don't mix up the regional league with any world-scale tournaments. The anime had not yet featured any tournaments that are world-scale which is truly the "gathering of the best from all around the world".
Personally I'm not that impressed by Ash's achievements, because it is like watching and cheering for a soccer team that had never ever survived the qualifying tournament which is just the preliminary to the FIFA World Cup. Yeah he tried the challenge again and again in different regions, but still it doesn't change the fact that he didn't even past the qualifying tournament that is just an entrance ticket to something bigger. This is not about the quantity, but more about the quality.