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Is Ash the anime counterpart of some of the male game protagonists? Not only Red.

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by horrahforyou, Aug 10, 2018.

  1. horrahforyou

    horrahforyou Pokemon and Kamen Rider is life

    With an exception of Ethan, Brendan and Nate.

    Yes, Ash is originally based on Red from the games.

    As he travels a new region (since Sinnoh) his new outfit somehow familiar from what male game protagonist design, with a little changes.

    This applies first during Diamond and Pearl saga whereas he wore a jacket similar to Lucas minus the scarf with different hat.

    His BW even though his jacket color is different to Hilbert's, his frontal design was close his.

    His XY was pretty obvious. His jacket color and design looks exactly like Calem's while his hat is similar to Red's FRLG hat.

    SM is like the most obvious.

    And if the opposite gender has an interaction with the player such as a friend / rival, she will appears on the anime as a travelling companion (May, Dawn and Serena).
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2018
  2. Ignition

    Ignition Well-Known Member

    He takes inspiration from their clothes but that's really it. There's no distinct personality from Gold-Sun's main characters because they're not NPCs like Red. Plus we've seen most of them in movie openings.
  3. Zoruagible

    Zoruagible Lover of underrated characters

    The only thing he has that connects him to the male protagonists is that he isn't native to Hoenn, Kalos, and Alola much like Brendan, Calem, and Sun
    Other than that, no. He's just a more interesting version of Red who steals the new male protagonist's clothes every new generation

    There's really no excuse why the males apart from Red(Who Ash is based off of) and Jimmy(Gold) haven't gotten roles, I'm quite sick of it really.
  4. horrahforyou

    horrahforyou Pokemon and Kamen Rider is life

    Looking forward to have Ash wore original outfit during Gen 8 and this break the tradition of copying whoever male protagonist's outfit in the future

    I mean the creators made an original outfit for Ash during AG series and didn't copy Brendan's outfit. Then why not
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  5. Spider-Phoenix

    Spider-Phoenix Go, Go Power Rangers

    Agreed on both.

    To be honest, I've been wanting the male player character to become one of Ash's companions ever since the days of the original GS when I saw Gold's design. I do hope generation 8 will finally change that.

    Same here. I've found his AG outfit to be a lot better than Brendan's clothes. Not to mention they match fairly well with RS Brendam and Emerald May lol
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  6. Litleonid

    Litleonid Well-Known Member

    His series outfits only really take inspiration from those worn by the male protagonists in the games and that's about it.
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  7. PineapplePizza

    PineapplePizza Well-Known Member

    His direct counterpart is Red in that they’re both from Pallet town and that Satoshi’s name was a default name for the Player character in Pokemon Red and Ash was mostly likely chosen because that’s what Nintendo of America told 4Kids to use as that’s what they picked for a default name in place of Satoshi.

    He may take on the roles of Ethan/Brendan/Lucas/Hilbert/Callum but he’s not actually based on them outside of stealing Hilbert and Callum’s outfits the same way he’s based on Red.

    We even know Ethan (Jimmy) Brendan and Lucas exist in the anime.
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  8. Shadao

    Shadao Well-Known Member

    Satoshi is the anime incarnation of Red, and only Red. If he was really based on the other male protagonists, his mother would have moved with him to the new region (like all of protagonsts' mothers) and he would be redesigned to look like male protagonists than his original game incarnation; namely, getting the default haircut of the male protagonist for instance (Incidentally, he was reconfirmed to be based on Red again when Yajima mentioned that the extra sideburn hair tuffs that XY Ash has are taken from FRLG Red).

    Honestly, it's no different from Smash Bros Pokémon Trainer having palette swaps based on the various Pokémon Trainers without physically changing the clothes.
  9. Spider-Phoenix

    Spider-Phoenix Go, Go Power Rangers

    I was looking at the palette swaps for the trainer on Smash Ultimate and one of them makes the male trainer look a lot like Kalos Ash except it has Red's face. In a game that has Greninja taking on the form of Ash-Greninja in the Final Smash.
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  10. maartjeverhoef

    maartjeverhoef Well-Known Member

    He kinda is; not only his clothes are rip-offs of male protagonist's but also their adventures are pretty similar - collecting the same badges, fighting the same bad teams, meeting the same characters along the way and so on.
  11. AznKei

    AznKei Rabi-Ribi's Cocoa is cute! ^_^

    I remembered that there was a Quebec dub for OS and he's called Ash as well, unlike the France dub where he was called Sasha. It was so different despite both sharing French languages...^^
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  12. shoz999

    shoz999 Accumula Town

    Pretty much. You could say Ash's personality is roughly the "default" personality of all the male protagonists.
  13. horrahforyou

    horrahforyou Pokemon and Kamen Rider is life

    I noticed that Ash's personality changes as he travel to a new region. To match with the persona that the male player character has.

    BW Ash - So Funny
    XY Ash - Less funny
    SM Ash - Extremely funny
  14. PineapplePizza

    PineapplePizza Well-Known Member

    I don’t recall the player character in Black and White having any personality?

    I mean arguably none of the player characters have personalities until they’re played as rivals and even then not really
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  15. Jeal

    Jeal Well-Known Member

    What persona? Players characters don't talk anything.
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  16. AznKei

    AznKei Rabi-Ribi's Cocoa is cute! ^_^

    They're smiling, regardless of the situations they're in.
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  17. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris Give Me Food.

    Ash is a strange dark, brown-skinned version of Red with bolt-shaped scars on his cheeks (convince me otherwise if those aren't scars, just what else could they be?)

    His mother keeps stealing clothes from the other no-show male protagonists. Possibly even killing them when they try to defend themselves, and then she takes the credit for being "original" for knitting them up.
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  18. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    TBH, what's the difference between Red and literally every other game protagonist outside of being able to fight him in another game? They're not really characters, just ciphers for the player
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