Is fanservice so much important?

[AshxSatoshi]

I actually am pretty sure they knew all along (or at least about a year in advance) Dawn was getting Togekiss because I think she's the reason Ambipom was cut in the first place.

Really? I always thought it was because Ambipom being on Dawn’s team made no sense because Buneary and especially because May had THREE normal types of her own

 

[LilligantLewis]

Really? I always thought it was because Ambipom being on Dawn’s team made no sense because Buneary and especially because May had THREE normal types of her own

It's possible I guess, but imo your May example does more to support my point than your own -- given that they were fine with may having 3, what would be wrong with Dawn having 2? I really don't think they cut her because of Buneary -- I think it's more likely she was cut to make room for Togekiss, just as Gliscor was cut for Gible around the same time, by the same set of writers.

EDIT: Not to mention that Togekiss was also a Normal type back then, so saying that Ambipom was cut because she was a Normal type can't make much sense unless she was replaced by a non-Normal type.

 

[Leonhart]

Fan service isn't a huge problem in this series compared to others that I've seen, yet I did feel uncomfortable in early DP when Hikari would sometimes be positioned in a way that focused on her short skirt.

 

[AshxSatoshi]

It's possible I guess, but imo your May example does more to support my point than your own -- given that they were fine with may having 3, what would be wrong with Dawn having 2? I really don't think they cut her because of Buneary -- I think it's more likely she was cut to make room for Togekiss, just as Gliscor was cut for Gible around the same time, by the same set of writers.

EDIT: Not to mention that Togekiss was also a Normal type back then, so saying that Ambipom was cut because she was a Normal type can't make much sense unless she was replaced by a non-Normal type.

Yes but don’t forget that most Normal-Flying types are mostly treated like Flying types with no reguard to them being also Normal types.

 

[DatsRight]

Exactly! How can people say SM has less fanservice than XY! Grace never appeared in a bikini

We had a female companion that was officially in love with Ash, dressed in several skimpy outfits, had a couple token bondage scenes, and just spent a lot of her screen time acting like a perpetually blushing waifu for the main character. All three main SM girls have been at least SLIGHTLY more subtle.

Yeah it is a little off putting considering she's meant to be 10 and all, but that's never stopped the anime's intent. They even admitted such.

 

[AshxSatoshi]

We had a female companion that was officially in love with Ash, dressed in several skimpy outfits, had a couple token bondage scenes, and just spent a lot of her screen time acting like a perpetually blushing waifu for the main character. All three main SM girls have been at least SLIGHTLY more subtle.

Yeah it is a little off putting considering she's meant to be 10 and all, but that's never stopped the anime's intent. They even admitted such.

Well I mean they outright claimed the PokeGirls were meant to be eye candy so food for thought

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

Only when they can actually pull it off right.

Remember Ash's Charizard? He was just kind of there after N's arc was over with.

Though I think they did a decent job with the Kanto trip.

 

[LilligantLewis]

Yes but don’t forget that most Normal-Flying types are mostly treated like Flying types with no reguard to them being also Normal types.

okay but what about the first part of what I said?

 

[Dephender]

Potentially interesting thread gets derailed by "if you don't like Iris you're racist" nonsense and some general failure to understand what fanserive is.

I think we're done here.