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Is Kyogre the best water type pokemon?

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Somebody

Banned
Mewtwo_God said:
Despite Kyogre's popularity and overall stats, I find it terribly ineffective in any team really. (expecially for uber standards). Stat-wise, its easily the most "power-heavy" water type, but its by no means the most useful or dangerous. Its a big nuclear-powered whale. Thats about it. Its slow, very slow, and super duper blunt. Anyone can switch to a lightning type without much fear and nuke this thing.

I like vaporeon/lanturn so much more. My lanturn can obliterate any kyogre in almost all situations.
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Electrics can switch into it without much fear? Seriously, besides Lanturn, every electric is 2HKOed by Surf, some even OHKOed, and Kyogre can survive Thunderbolts from all of them.
 
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Mewtwo_God

Mewtwo Trainer
Thats not true. Im sure an Ampharos could take out a Kyogre pretty easily.. just thunder wave it first and you should be set.

Strangely enough, electric types are less effective against Kyogres than others..
Kyogres have weak def, a Gyarados would tear it to shreds..
 
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Rod Master

The Fishing Guru
Mewtwo_God said:
Thats not true. Im sure an Ampharos could take out a Kyogre pretty easily.. just thunder wave it first and you should be set.

Strangely enough, electric types are less effective against Kyogres than others..
Kyogres have weak def, a Gyarados would tear it to shreds..
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The basic special sweeper Kyogre can take out Electrics pretty easily and has high Special Defense. Sure Drizzle helps them out but as you said yourself electric types are less effective against him, which is to be expected - he is a Water legendary after all.

As for Gyarados, here's a simple equation...

Calm Mind + Thunder = Death for the Water/Flying type
 
M

magnemiteZ

Banned
more like, a single thunder.


There is more to Pokemon that just simple type weaknesses "Mewtwo_God".
This means that just because Ampharos has a STAB's Thunder / Bolt, it doesn't mean he can even challenge Kyogre.
 
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serebiimadness

Well-Known Member
i prefer using other water types just cause kyogres a little slow for my liking.
 
B

Bayleefios

Zangoose Rox yer Sox
I'd prefer Blastoise. At lv. 66, he can take on practically anything.
 
D

davidone10

The new tuxedo look!
Kyogre is the king of all water types, my top emerald pokemon and has VERY few counters. Namely lanturn, blissey(maybe), lanturn, snorlax, regice and they have to be completely unharmed or they get killed by a surf. In short, KYOGRE PWNS YOU.
 
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True_Eriorguez

Well-Known Member
Only Parukia will be a match for Kyogre, due to higher base stats. Still, it can get Thunderbeamed.
Still, Groudon beats Diaruga with EQ.
 
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The Ludicolo Master

Grass Master
It is just more than just stats, the nature affects it, what level you caught it at (lv40 in sapphire,lv 70 in emerald), if you used rare candies or not, the EVs and hidden values, but most of all, the trainer, do you think it is good, everyone thinks differently, so you decide.
 
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CharizardMaster

Belgian Waffles!!!
Yes it is, but its used by all n00bs and stuff, I only trained one because I was bored.
 
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