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Since there isn't a particular thread aimed at this topic, I will start a new fresh debate on TheFightingPikachu's challenges to the non-religious view on why there is no evidence of Jesus' resurrection.
To highlight:
And Pikachu's response:
Jesus' resurrection merely has eyewitnesses who we can't even prove to have seen him at the time of resurrection. Plus, most of his witnesses of those "miracles" are those who are already his disciples. Ever thought of the possibility of lying to get followers? Even if some of them were persecuted beforehand, so what? Nat Turner died for his vision of God. There are plenty of people who do crazy **** in history for the sake of their beliefs. That's no reason to say they're true, because they OBVIOUSLY conflict with each other.
You so easily discount the errors these writers put out and the inconsistency in their statements about Jesus' life, but can you name one writer or a group of writers we depend so much on in history who make false and inconsistent statements?
Since there isn't a particular thread aimed at this topic, I will start a new fresh debate on TheFightingPikachu's challenges to the non-religious view on why there is no evidence of Jesus' resurrection.
To highlight:
Tim the turtle said:They [the New Testament documents] were all written at least 40 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus, and it's very likely that they were not written by the people who professed to have written them, since the life expectancy of the time was so low.
And Pikachu's response:
(This is hand-waving because the life expectancy of that time was not so low as to preclude someone writing forty years after the fact. And where did Tim get his statistics? And Paul wrote even earlier. And the general life expectancy of a time period/area can't be used to assert that specific individuals couldn't have lived a certain length of time.)
First, let me just say that you cannot compare this to the evidence of Evolution. Evolution is seen by scientific experiments, tests, and consistency with other fields of science. It answers many of biology's questions about life. It is practically necessary.Let me state it again. Some of the letters from Paul in the New Testament, whether you consider them Scripture or not, report that he became convinced that Jesus came back from the dead. This despite the fact that he had previously tossed in jail and persecuted people who followed Jesus.
Jesus' resurrection merely has eyewitnesses who we can't even prove to have seen him at the time of resurrection. Plus, most of his witnesses of those "miracles" are those who are already his disciples. Ever thought of the possibility of lying to get followers? Even if some of them were persecuted beforehand, so what? Nat Turner died for his vision of God. There are plenty of people who do crazy **** in history for the sake of their beliefs. That's no reason to say they're true, because they OBVIOUSLY conflict with each other.
You so easily discount the errors these writers put out and the inconsistency in their statements about Jesus' life, but can you name one writer or a group of writers we depend so much on in history who make false and inconsistent statements?