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Is Ursaring underrated?

Is Ursaring underrated?


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Komedic Konservationist

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Ursaring is an awesome Pokemon. It has a massive Attack stat of 130, Sword Dance, and acess to a whole range of physical moves, meaning it can rip even the most durable of tanks to shreds with some ease. It's almost like a mega-powerful version of Granbull, plus it has the Guts ability. When inflicted with a status condition, practically NOTHING can tolerate it.
I love it's design and personallity, too. Bears are my favourite IRL animals, and Ursaring is awesome in that it looks big and intimidating without being too much.
However, I've noticed that this awesome beast is very underloved. Few people use it, and it never gets the credit it deserves. The fact it nearly lost to Raticate in my face-off earlier today proves how tragically unpopular it is.
So, do you think Ursaring is underrated? Does it deserve a higher place on the tier list? Or do you hate it simply because you consider it ugly? Discuss.
 

Volteon

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ursaring is good, but in rare battles...

1st: who will poison it (outside double battles)? burn will make no diference and paralisis make it no attack sometimes. (OK sleep too, but almost no one uses snore/sleep talk in it) your only exit is the prediction (or a stupid opponent).

2nd: it don´t learns shadow ball...

3rd: I can´t think in a 3rd...

4th: you can lose a precious turn using swords dance, it has a low defense and anything that´s faster than it (which is extremely easy to find) can KO it in 2 turns (or one O_O)

overall, I really like it, but it´s one pokémon that I don´t think using in my team.
(you know I voted raticate, just because I like it´s toxic+endeavor combo and I think it´s better than guts+poison+facade combo for a pokemon thats slow.)
 
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Why, it sure is. I can understand if aesthetics mean a lot to you, for Ursaring is no beauty contest winner. But as far as battling goes, Ursaring is quite decent. BIG Attack, decent enough lastability to take a few hits. With a bit of Paralysis support, he's almost unstoppable. Swords Dance, Earthquake and Facade kill things. He's also been shafted in favor of other Normal Pokés...

Plus, he looks very fierce and deadly. Some might say dumb, but bears are suppossed to look like that. :rolleyes:

I do think he earns more respect. It's not as if he utterly fails. He can do stuff. And good stuff. And his looks aren't GODAWFUL. Plus, not all Pokémon have to be 00ber beautiful or wickedly cool to be good, have them? I like Ursaring since GSC, but in XD, I could attest his sheer power and how he's very decent. Even good. :D

It's rather sad to see him being shafted in favor of Raticate. It seriously is... fact is, it's even grave.
 

Komedic Konservationist

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Volteon said:
who will poison it (outside double battles)?
Exactly! The Poison+Guts combo is meant only for double battles. Have the partner Pokemon use Toxic, which will poison Ursaring without badly damaging it, then have Ursaring use Sword Dance+Facade/Return. Yes, Ursaring might be killed in the turn wasted by using Sword Dance, but with Focus Band and 90 base HP it might just be able to tolerate a hit or two.
I think the reasons why Ursaring is underloved is.....
1: It's pre-evo. Teddiursa is extreamly cute; so cute, infact, that people it makes Ursaring look not so cute in comparision. And the fact that it's not as cute as Teddi makes people hate it, which is sad. And stupid, because what else could a bear cub turn into. A giant bear cub? A grizzly was the best option.
2: Overplentiful Normal types. There are 35 normal types, and I'm just listing the fully evolved ones. So many normals, infact, they nearly all get shafted, with the exception of Blissey and Snorlax. I'm sure if people overlooked all these other normals and the other factors listed here, thye would realise Ursaring's full potential. It might even become an OU! IMO it deserves to be.
3: It's incredibly hard to come by ingame. In all games but XD, it's always found right at the end of the game, and even then is usuallly very rare. It suffers from the same disease as Tangela; Foundaftertheteamisfullyformeditis.
I'm probably going to start a chain sig to raise love for the poor bear.
 
Underrated? Understatement ._.

Ursaring deserves to be BL, because the thing is just too strong. Its Defensive Stats are just as good as, even better, in some cases, than some OUs. Its Attack is also off the chart, surpassing the mighty Heracross and Medicham, equalling the Attack of Kingler and Ho-Oh, and just slightly below Metagross, Tyranitar, Dragonite, and Salamence. How's that for good? :)

Also, being a Normal Type has its advantages. First off, it gives it that one weakness people seem to adore on Kingdra, meaning that you're not going to have a high chance of an OHKO on Ursaring. Plus, the resistance to Ghost is very nice. I.e., Celebi vs. Medicham. What else is Medicham going to use besides Shadow Ball? So switch to Ursaring, and Dance on the switch-out. Even Skarmory will have difficulty coping with a neutrally damaging Attack from Ursaring. In fact, Focus Punch could very easily just KO it. Skarmory's main role is PHazing, so that's most likely what it'll do as soon as it switches in, as your foe is smart enough to realize leaving an Ursaring with +2 Attack is the height of folly. Your response to that should be a Focus Punch, of course, as Focus Punch always hits before a PHaze will. And if you don't OHKO it, you'll definitely take a huge chunk out of its HP Bar. If the next Pokémon is faster(if you're slower, it'll just Rest it off), you'll be able to finish it off(assuming it doesn't switch, which is a likely scenario. And even then, it'll be tough switching a wounded Skarmory into play).

I think the biggest problem with Ursaring is that it's too situational. You've got a horribly low chance of getting Guts + Facade + Swords Dance(1, 2, or 3). If you do, gg. If you don't, don't be surprised. Ursaring's Defenses may not be horrific, but it's not going to survive most powerful Attacks. It's kill or get killed with the big bear.

The best strategy for Ursaring usage is with Ninjask and Magneton. Play around for a while, switch in someting Physical(Heracross is probably the best Skarmbait). They switch in Skarmory, you switch in Magneton. Ursaring's(and Ninjask's, to a lesser extent(PHaze)) biggest threat is now gone =) Switch to Ninjask whenever you feel it's safe(CB EQ, for one). Set up a Sub on the switch, and, more importantly, Swords Dance as your Sub is broken. Stall until you have enough Speed stockpiled to give Ursaring a nice boost. Again, you may need to predict a bit to get Ursaring into play. Or, if you're lucky, your foe will use some weak/non-damaging move that won't break the Sub, clearing the way for the BP to Ursaring. With a heck of a lot of Speed and a good Attack boost, not much is going to hurt you. I suppose Deo E could pose some problems, since you definitely won't outspeed that, but it's not that strong before CMing up, so you can probably OHKO it anyhow.

Also, S-H-U-P-P-E-T, unless you have something worthwhile to say, don't respond, because without reasoning, your point is about as weak as a Charizard :rolleyes: Look at my explanation, and compare it to yours. Which gets the point across better?

~*CB*~
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I have NEVER used Ursaring in my life so I cannot talk really but I battled a great team of Ursaring, Machamp, Swellow, Heracross, etc. with Guts and I found it very difficult. Ursaring was by far the Hardest and Swellow was pretty hard too. Facade did SO much damage. You would not have believd how much the hurt my Umbreon and Meganium. That Ursaring completely traumatized my Meganium and Umbreon. They are all sad now...*sob*
 

Komedic Konservationist

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I'm pretty glad that people are starting to recognise Ursaring for the awesome beast that it is.
Imo, it's worthy of being a low-ranking OU: that's how strong it is.
 
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~RedStar100~

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I voted "yes, and it deserves more love", because not many people have Ursaring in their team, and they don't like Ursaring that much... Ursaring is a cool Pokemon and is underestimated :( That's my opinion, anyway.
 
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S.Suikun

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Sorry, but in my opinion, Ursaring has one of the blandest and most unoriginal designs ever. All they did was take an ordinary grizzly bear and plaster a ring on its belly. Of course, this is coming from someone who couldn't care less about how well a Pokemon fares in battle... (That said, I still voted underrated but hate it, because it's hardly talked about)
 
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Altair

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Shining Suikun said:
Sorry, but in my opinion, Ursaring has one of the blandest and most unoriginal designs ever. All they did was take an ordinary grizzly bear and plaster a ring on its belly.

Exactly what he said. I voted the last option.
 

Valkyrie X

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Yes, I do believe Ursaring is underrated. I think *Orion* and C. Blizz covered pretty much everything. =P

He really proved to be a decent battler in XD; he helped me out quite a bit. In fact, I've really grown to like the big lug. I'm actually starting to like his appearance, even. He really isn't a bad Pokémon at all, when you get right down to it.

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Komedic Konservationist

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Shining Suikun said:
Sorry, but in my opinion, Ursaring has one of the blandest and most unoriginal designs ever. All they did was take an ordinary grizzly bear and plaster a ring on its belly.
Yes, it's not very original, but they pulled off stylizing it very well. And ordianry grizzly bears don't have fur epauletes, massive talons, huge tails, and mystic rings plastered on there torsos, do they?
 
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DemonScythe

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o shi
Blizzard got to my explanation first :/
but it gets enough love, if it wants more well
then as will Machamp and sweet Sciz since they
are nearly the same but BL is cool though you get
to use them in UU since its what most are playing
now anyways =)
 

Komedic Konservationist

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I think another reason why Ursaring is underrated is becuase it is potrayed in a bad light in the anime.
 
Steve's Legend said:
I like ursaring, but i think hes in his rightfull spot in UU. And Volteon, Burn still rases his attack, it doesn't nurtralize it

I think burn does neutralize it because guts doubles his attack and burn halves the attack.
 

Nickronite

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i voted "Yes, it eserves more love"... ot's very powerful!

Guts+Facade=KO
 

Komedic Konservationist

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