How do I sound like Pikachu? He was coming up with baseless arguments,
Not like you. You just make baseless claims
. Totally different.
Blind faith? I swear to God that's actually the most ignorant thing I have heard all day. How do Muslims have blind faith?
I have yet to see a single religion that does not rely on blind faith over logic. You act like your religion's the only one accused of such.
Muhammed (PBUH) claimed to be a prophet of God without proof?
Your point? Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, and according to the Bible, he had proof.
The miracle that Muhammed (PBUH) has brought with him was the Quran itself.
What makes the Quran a miracle and the word of God? Simply because there is nothing like it...
Which is precisely what every other religion says about their own holy book. What makes yours so special?
some claim that Muhammed (PBUH) was the author of the book itself but that doesn't make sense because he was an illiterate man.
According to the Quran, correct? If Mohammed had wanted to add to his claim of divinity, or simply just wanted people to start following his beliefs, he could easily lie in the Quran and say he was illiterate.
It has FACTS in it!!! FACTS!!!
Holy ****ing ****, that's completely unprecedented! I mean, books
? Surely you jest.
That it was simply impossible for a man at that time to know or even imagine such things.
Similar claims have been made about the Bible.
In the Quran there were claims that the human embryo is similar to a leech...The human embryo not only physically looks like a leech
Because it's inconceivable that someone would ever see a fetus. Also, you can say that something is "similar to" another thing without the two looking anything alike.
but also has a function that is similar to it, it feeds of its host.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Pregnant women need to eat more, feel weaker, and experience all sorts of symptoms that would lead to comparisons of leeches.
The Quran talks about the mountains as serving as pegs to stabilize the Earth,
And? Logic back then probably went "it's really big, it's really heavy, maybe it's used to hold it down". I don't know the context of the quote, though, so I can't say for sure.
it talks about the seas not mixing water as if there was a barrier
And back then, freshwater and saltwater never met in areas where people could examine it. Ever.
and also about the levels of the sky atmosphere, stratosphere etc.
One, I highly doubt they used those exact words.
Two, anyone who had ever been in a very high place - say, climbing a mountain - would realize, whoa, things change when you climb higher. You get less oxygen, lower air pressure, etc. I don't think it would take a lot of thinking to gather "well, if things happen as you go up, more
things must happen as you go up more
All of those stuff were recently discovered...
For rather loose definitions of the word "recently".
Another miracle of the Quran is it's AUTHENTICITY! Something that every holy scripture was unable to have...
We know the Quran is authentic because the Quran says so, and we know the Quran is true because the Quran says so, and oh my god the logic is making me dizzy.
Clearly, He didn't do a great job.
God himself in the Quran says that he will ENSURE that the Quran will not be changed at all...not even a single letter to it.
It is LITERALLY flawless! There is no mistake in it,
Are you kidding me? There's an example of a contradiction in the very first freaking post of this topic! This one page
lists over a hundred of them!
orthographic and grammar wise.
Well, I'd damn well hope any well-written book would be grammatically correct.
Depending on your definition of unique, the same could be said of any book, factual or fictional.
it was sent down during a time where the people were experts in the language of Arabic,
and the Arabic language has 3 different forms of speech, and in the Quran all three have been mixed together (I do not know much about it because I myself do not talk Arabic)
and God has challenged humanity to recreate something similar to it.
The Bible. Or hell, any religious text.
At first He said create a book like it, it wasn't done. Then He said create a chapter similar to it, it wasn't done. And finally He said, create a verse like it, and still wasn't done.
Really. Explain to me how the Bible is not similar. It's absolutely ridiculous to claim that no one in the history of the world has ever created even a single verse that is in any way similar to the Quran. The Bible itself is loaded with similar verses.
Just because you refuse to see them, doesn't mean they're not there.
Another challenge was to find a mistake in the Quran,
People from all over the world have tried to disproved it since 1400 years ago till today and it still hasn't being done.
Once again, it's easy to claim it hasn't been disproven if you ignore every argument presented.
How about hundreds?
or the creation of a verse like the Quran to be created
Again, explain to me how the Bible does not fit this criteria, and explain to me how not having a known copycat book proves it to be true.
or even finding a contradiction is to be found to discredit the Quran.
Well, to be fair, you're technically right. There isn't a
contradiction, there's several.
But okay, if contradictions don't count, how about scientific and biological inaccuracies? The Quran claims that man is created from a fluid between the loins and ribs (but semen originates in the testicles); Sura 16:66 says that cow's milk comes from between the excrement and blood of the cow's abdomen (um, what?); Sura 16:69 says that honey comes out of a bee's abdomen; Sura 6:38 claims that all animals and flying beings form societies like ours; Sura 25:45-46 claims that the movement of the sun causes shadows (supporting a geocentric universe model, rather than the correct heliocentric one); and according to Sura 65:12, "It is God who hath created seven heavens and as many earths" (I'd love to know what the other six Earths are; if they mean the other planets, then they got the number wrong).
THAT is the miracle that Muhammed (PBUH) has brought with him.
Unlike the Bible and the Testaments that require blind faith
Face it, you use just as much blind faith as any other religious person.
about the miracles that have been performed thousands of years ago...the Quran has a base and is a living miracle.
You have yet to validly prove the Quran is a miracle in itself.
Now I challenge you to discredit it.
I'm not going to pretend that a single, 45-minute forum post is going to disprove an entire religion, but eh.