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Its the games that sells the system......

nardjr16

witness the darkness
and right now nintendo is killing sony in the handheld war,theyve released alot of big selling games(mariocart ds,castlevania,animalcrossing,meteoros,and much more),not counting the big hits in development(pokemon d/p,pokemon dungeon,zelda,and metroid) sony needs to leave the handheld buisness to nintendo and focus on trying to better microsoft. if you have an opinion on this i would love to hear it.
 

MidnightScott

Super Gamer
Wow, you represent Houston bad with that grammar. I'm in Houston right now on Spring Break. We all know it's the games that sell the system...but yeah, this really belongs in Other Videogame Discussion.

~Scott;229;
 

hi 5

Can you see it?
Latios said:
You know, this is pretty much why I missed the old days of gaming. Back then, we didn't have to worry about such features as Blu-Ray and Wireless controllers. All we cared about was the games. We didn't fight between Sega and Nintendo just because they were Sega and Nintendo, we fought because some of us liked Sonic and some of us liked Mario.

And now... it's the consoles features that sell... It's like nobody wants a pure gaming machine anymore.

Yeah,now everything is wireless and slim.Can't we just play the games.
 
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Tobbin

Guest
They may have been at one time, but times are a changing. LOL. I just picked up Dark Mirror and it has awesome online capabilities. Even down to voice chat. I like the game so far. SOCOM was pretty cool too, but there's just something about this game that seems that much better. It's popular enough that there's almost always someone online too. I like how they are integrating the PSP with the PS2 console. With that many more gamers available, it's almost always easier to get something started. :eek:) Can't wait to see what the future of online play is gonna be like. I'm just happy I got registered with my username before someone else got it. The sneak backstab / slash a throat is just classic in the game. I like how they integrated the mines into the program too. It is one sweet game.
 

Silver Ryu

~Aqua Dragon~
Exactly. THIS is why I prefer Nintendo systems. Because all the games I'm interested in are on them! Sure, there are a few PS2 games I'd like to play, but I'd much rather have a Gamecube with 12+ games than a PS2 with 5. And I have yet to find an Xbox or PSP exclusive that I'm interested in.
 

Sonozaki Maya

realized seraph
I couldn't have said it less. My GameCube is sitting around gathering dust because all my great wonderful RPGs are on the PS2/PS1 and the conceptual games are on my DS, plus the games I get for GCN are far too expensive. I get my PS2 games specially cheap. ;P
 
People have different tastes...

Some people like series that have been around for more than 20 years and some like things that are a little new...


nintendo and focus on trying to better microsoft

This is why Nintendo might have trouble... If it turns out no one likes the way the controller works, then Microsoft will win... As I said before, it's a pure matter of preference... If you want to play Zelda, Mario, Metriod, etc. over and over and over again, and that's what people want to play, Nintendo will win. If not, people will be looking towards Sony and Microsoft.
 

Bulk

Well-Known Member
Rufinito18 said:
I dunno which to buy, prob the PSP cause of the FF coming out on it.
You do know FFIII is coming to the DS, fully revamped in 3D? Just checking because I wouldn't dish out £200+ for a console for just one game when there's an equivilent on something costing £100.

I'm actually pretty ****** off that it's now this way. The games are the reason for the console so why do I have to buy all the bells and whistles for it (DVD player, iPod Connector thing, CD player ect)
 
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pikachu_rocks19

Guest
When sony went handheld i thought they were gonna kill the sales but i guess not beacuse there are hardly any good psp games out. DS RULES
 

Razorback Kirby

OMG LINK PWNZ YOU
by Latios
You know, this is pretty much why I missed the old days of gaming. Back then, we didn't have to worry about such features as Blu-Ray and Wireless controllers. All we cared about was the games. We didn't fight between Sega and Nintendo just because they were Sega and Nintendo, we fought because some of us liked Sonic and some of us liked Mario.

And now... it's the consoles features that sell... It's like nobody wants a pure gaming machine anymore.

woah im quoting a mod, but hes right, i dont even know what blu-ray is, i dont use wireless controllers, i just enjoy gaming, it doesnt matter who makes a game, its weather or not its a good game, crap, my first system was a nes, WHEN I WAS 9! i had good times on my nes lemme tell ya, i had it till i got my gamecube in 04, and as for system features, does it have buttons, a screen, decent games, ok ill take it. woah its a psp, it can play music and video and such, the graphics are far more superior, but can it really give us nintendo classics like mario kart, or animal crossing. and does it have backwards compatibility? of course not its sonys first handheld. when the ds was released its library was 500 games full.

all in all Latios is right, screw system features, its all about just sittin back and enjoying a good game
 
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Tobbin

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~Jirachi~ said:
woah im quoting a mod, but hes right, i dont even know what blu-ray is, i dont use wireless controllers, i just enjoy gaming, it doesnt matter who makes a game, its weather or not its a good game, crap, my first system was a nes, WHEN I WAS 9! i had good times on my nes lemme tell ya, i had it till i got my gamecube in 04, and as for system features, does it have buttons, a screen, decent games, ok ill take it. woah its a psp, it can play music and video and such, the graphics are far more superior, but can it really give us nintendo classics like mario kart, or animal crossing. and does it have backwards compatibility? of course not its sonys first handheld. when the ds was released its library was 500 games full.

all in all Latios is right, screw system features, its all about just sittin back and enjoying a good game

Yeah. That's true. If you are satisfied with a NES, why buy a PS2 or Gamecube, right? When you are talking about Blu-Ray technology, that's basically what you are saying. Yeah, technology costs. Sometimes it's worth it though. Now, I'm not saying the application that Sony is going to use the Blu-Ray will be worth getting the Blu-Ray, but the potential of it cannot be ignored. It's basically like saying, "Why go to DVD when we have CD's?" I remember that DVD's weren't that big when it first started out.

As for Wi-Fi, we have only begun to scratch the surface of that technology. I've been considering upgrading to broadband at home (I use broadband at work, but I still run on dial-up at home.) Prices for DSL have come down a lot. The more that people get involved with it, the more it will come down. So, Wi-Fi should be getting pretty reasonable here pretty soon.

I'll have to agree that it's the games that make the system though. Having said that, when something brand new comes out, there usually isn't a lot of support for it. They couldn't make the PSP backwards compatible with the PS2 or PS1, as they used normal sized disk media. It's basically the same as saying you want the Gamecube to be backwards compatible with a GBA (loosely.) You can get an adapter, but it didn't come prepackaged with the GCN.

As for bells and whistles on the PSP (or possible other future equipment released - Microsoft, etc,) you don't have to concentrate on them if you don't want. Just because I have a DVD/VCR combo system, doesn't mean I have to do anything with the VCR side. It's nice to have it as an option though, should I want to watch a VHS tape. I bought 1 of them because I had access to both media. Hardly ever use the VHS side though. Now, in regards to my PSP, I do use all the bells and whistles. I like that I can do so much with it. I still play games on it though. Just picked up Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror recently. Great game. I like X-Men II (which I only bought for the PSP,) Untold Legends, Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX (which I only bought for the PSP,) Coded Arms, Death JR, MediEvil Resurrection, Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire, Prince of Persia: Revelations, Rengoku, Socom, Spiderman 2, Star Wars II: Battlefront, & Tokobot (really cool mind numbing game.) I've got other games, but those are my favorite.

The DS didn't have a lot of software when it first came out. Yeah, if you wanted to use it as a glorified GBA handheld, you could. That's actually what I had to do initially. I've picked up some games since then though. Most of the games that I play are GBA though. Advance Wars is cool. Castlevania & Chronicles of Narnia are really cool too. Of course, I had to pick up Resident Evil. I got Spider-Man 2 & Yugioh: Nightmare Troubadour. Just picked up Metroid Prime. That's the game I've wanted for the DS since it first came out.

Gameplay, to me, also includes graphics. The PSP has the slight edge in that field. A lot of the touch screen games, I have problems with as they are a little awkward to work with. Using the analog joystick is a little cumbersome too though (on the PSP.) I've been more satisfied with the PSP games overall though. They appear to be more setup for on the go gaming. I can play a few hours, seconds, minutes on the PSP; whereas when I play on the DS, I have to devote a block of time to play. I dunno.

Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages. Both systems use their own technology. If you are satisfied with a GBA, then you don't need either system. It all really comes down to what games you want to play and how you want to play them. That is for any system though. PC's are in the same league too, cause requirements are always changing for them. If you have an out moded computer, will you upgrade? Or leave it as is? The decision is yours. . . . . . . ,
 

meta-master

The name says it all
Latios said:
You know, this is pretty much why I missed the old days of gaming. Back then, we didn't have to worry about such features as Blu-Ray and Wireless controllers. All we cared about was the games. We didn't fight between Sega and Nintendo just because they were Sega and Nintendo, we fought because some of us liked Sonic and some of us liked Mario.

And now... it's the consoles features that sell... It's like nobody wants a pure gaming machine anymore.


lol i was to young to know of that era:)
 
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Tobbin

Guest
Latios said:
Because we want to expand our gaming library. It's like saying if the country is running fine, why even bother with petty political issues?

LOL. Yeah. I was being a bit sarcastic when I was saying that. Mainly just saying that a lot of people want bigger and better and others are just satisfied with what they've got. My grandmother was like that. She had a TV with an antennae and that's all she had til the day she died. She didn't want or need cable. It's all in perspective though. I want bigger/better. You can either embrace technology, or side step it.
 

ChronaMew

Demonic Warrior
Well I have a way to get both a PSP and a DS for a very minimal cost, but I know most people don't. The only thing I hate is that specific series (Pokemon, FF (most of the series), the main games of Xenosaga and KH, Zelda) all go on their own specific consoles. I had no access to a GCube really, so I couldn't keep up with half those games.

What features does the PSP come with as soon as you get it, and do you have to purchase anything to make something work? DVD, CD, MP3, Movies, do they all come accessible right away? If not, then why not? They just want more money. (Actually answer this question for me btw, kinda curious =p)

I know already the WiFi connection will cost a lot more for the DS too.

All these addons, thats also bringing up the price of things...

And I also have to get an SP or a Micro if I want to play my old GB/C games in bright light, as they didn't put it into the DS for some reason. I actually do want a Micro though, so that's sorta like one problem solved for me
 
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zonic the hedgehog

HUR HUR USER TITLE


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^TEH SEX.

Wow, now the Megaman games are starting to kick butt every since they've been released on the PSP. I'm totally in love with Maverick X and Powered Up!

Onto the topic in question, yes, games are what make the system. Although the PSP is more multimedia than anything. The games have been released in a very slow rate, due to the fact that PSP games probably take more time to make (they do have better graphics, and incredible sound).
They've been pretty interesting though.

I'm also content with using my PSP as an MP3 player. Seriously, I don't even want a Ipod. All it does is play music, and I'd rather multi-task.

As well as that, I do most of my manga-reading on my PSP rather than my computer.

A lot of portable system fail because of the lack of excellent games, but they have incredible hardware.

Gamegear, Neo-Geo Pocket, and N-Gage (well, it had even more problems...) are examples of this.

They were too far ahead of their time, I guess. The Gamegear had a fantastic color screen with vibrant graphics, but the games kinda sucked, so it failed.

So it seems the statement, "It's the games that sell the system" is true.
 
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Zora

perpetually tired
^FYI there a lot of half-truths there

...PSP is a MP3 player

Lack memory so costs just about the same as an Ipod. That is an example.

Also that screen shot above doesn't even compare to DS graphics. That is similiar to M&L:piT

Anyways, yes. Before the PSP was released people thought it would sell good because they saw that Sony was working as hard as they can.
 
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Lord Nidokingu

Guest
I've said this many times. These days, gaming companies are putting millions of dollars into developing games and that is a big commitment. They would rather release RPG cliché number 56,000, FPS cliché number 98,000 and racing game cliché number 500,000. Why? Because they are tried and true. They sell. People these days don't realize they're getting the same thing in a different package with a few new features and a makeover. People these days just eat it up.

"But we want our extreme blood baths and stuff... =((("

We've become a society of people that just wants to watch things die... =/
 
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