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Kalos Region Mysteries

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Unredemption

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Weird thought... But I think about it every time someone mentions Z/XY2,

Since Kalos is a region that is kind of based around history, it'd be cool, if we got prequels. Pokemon A and Pokemon B. Since A and B come before X and Y. But I can quickly put an end to this theory by saying it wouldn't work because what about mega evolutions (they wouldn't have been discovered)

That'd actually be a cool concept, to explore the Pokemon world when it isn't so futuristic and technologically advanced - adds a whole lot of depth and realism to the series. I'm sure Game Freak would think of something to patch up the continuity issues/loopholes like Mega Evolutions, too.
 

bigbro223

Well-Known Member
Weird thought... But I think about it every time someone mentions Z/XY2,

Since Kalos is a region that is kind of based around history, it'd be cool, if we got prequels. Pokemon A and Pokemon B. Since A and B come before X and Y. But I can quickly put an end to this theory by saying it wouldn't work because what about mega evolutions (they wouldn't have been discovered)
Actually, this could work. In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, the player can use Mega Evolutions. These games are supposed to happen about six years before X and Y, so its possible. Also, isn't there a legend in X and Y about Mega Evolution being discovered a hundred years ago or something like that?
 

Linktwo

Arcanine Trainer
Actually, this could work. In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, the player can use Mega Evolutions. These games are supposed to happen about six years before X and Y, so its possible. Also, isn't there a legend in X and Y about Mega Evolution being discovered a hundred years ago or something like that?

From what I gathered the people of Kalos have known about Mega evolution for a very long time but only a few could pull it off and no one was really sure how it worked.
 

Sunset Star

The DS Gamer
*crawls in*
Umm... Mega Evolution is possible in ORAS through the power of retconning? =P Nintendo games, second-party and first-party alike, run on retcons.
 

.Person.

No avatard plz
Actually, this could work. In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, the player can use Mega Evolutions. These games are supposed to happen about six years before X and Y, so its possible. Also, isn't there a legend in X and Y about Mega Evolution being discovered a hundred years ago or something like that?

I believe that FR/LG didn't take place during the same point in history but instead they took place later on. Even referencing to the last protagonist. I'm positive the new Ruby/Sapphire games will take place several years/decades later or before. (Hopefully the blue moon island plays a roll if before!)

I do have to bring up the possibility that the pokemon bank could play a roll in connecting future games and regions with the possibility of remaining the same character but just having had moved to a new region. After all, every game starts out with having just moved to a new region. Maybe the protagonist's mother will move back to a new region to pursue her rhydon racing career?

Lastly, are there still many many things left unexplained in this game? I know how hacking works but not possible to discover everything when people don't even know what to look for.
 

arawn

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I wanted to figure out what that strange girl on the tower does.. where she went and why she was there in the first place.. plus that strange writing on the time table... pokemon apocalypse? :( I'm scared.. I've never been this creeped out since Lavander town's BGM

sorry. What writing on time table? Is that " Waiting at the usual place" ? What does that have to do with Apocalypse?
 

Disaster_Lord

Sad Bayleef is Sad.
sorry. What writing on time table? Is that " Waiting at the usual place" ? What does that have to do with Apocalypse?

WMG and creepy pastas mostly. I still dont get why people considervlavander town music creepy i found it cute and charming when i was 8. Back to gen 6 im interested in the totem thingy you get from the future region or orre almia guy.
 

((JAWS))

Johto Boy
I believe that FR/LG didn't take place during the same point in history but instead they took place later on. Even referencing to the last protagonist. I'm positive the new Ruby/Sapphire games will take place several years/decades later or before. (Hopefully the blue moon island plays a roll if before!)

I do have to bring up the possibility that the pokemon bank could play a roll in connecting future games and regions with the possibility of remaining the same character but just having had moved to a new region. After all, every game starts out with having just moved to a new region. Maybe the protagonist's mother will move back to a new region to pursue her rhydon racing career?

Lastly, are there still many many things left unexplained in this game? I know how hacking works but not possible to discover everything when people don't even know what to look for.

The same character theory is really interesting, I'll have to look out for that in upcoming games. I don't know if it would be completely accurate since years do go by in the series.
 
Lastly, are there still many many things left unexplained in this game? I know how hacking works but not possible to discover everything when people don't even know what to look for.

You never really find out until a couple of years later when hackers go back to revisit it. I guess it's kind of the same how they incorporated Latias and Latios mega evolutions into X and Y but never released them.

It could be that the current Hoenn mega-evolutions are in the current X and Y versions. But it could also be that they will update Pokemon X and Y to allow those pokemon to be traded between versions.
 
I'm still wondering how did Mewtwonite X and Mewtwonite Y came into existence cause Mewtwo was created a few years before gen 1 and 3 and the mega stones were created over 3000 years ago. Could have Team Rocket knew about mega evolution and created those mega stones but could never figure out how to recreate the mega ring to activate mega evolution.

I hope this gets cleared up in the rumored Gen I remakes or before Gen VI ends so the Mewtwo storyline receives closure at last.
 

BCVM22

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Mewtwo's Mega Stones being unexplained (like every other Mega Stone) despite seeming timeline discrepancies is another example of Game Freak not letting their own tissue-thin attempts at story and chronology let in the way of gameplay, and wisely so.

There are no rumored Generation I remakes. Just people who have no idea how anything works and like to pass off baseless wishful thinking as legitimate possibilities.
 

Joth

Back from the Dead
I believe that FR/LG didn't take place during the same point in history but instead they took place later on. Even referencing to the last protagonist. I'm positive the new Ruby/Sapphire games will take place several years/decades later or before. (Hopefully the blue moon island plays a roll if before!)

I do have to bring up the possibility that the pokemon bank could play a roll in connecting future games and regions with the possibility of remaining the same character but just having had moved to a new region. After all, every game starts out with having just moved to a new region. Maybe the protagonist's mother will move back to a new region to pursue her rhydon racing career?

Lastly, are there still many many things left unexplained in this game? I know how hacking works but not possible to discover everything when people don't even know what to look for.

Weren't they confirmed to be full remakes?

Anyhow, how can Serena/Calem mega evolve her/his Absol? You won the mega ring. Did the game ever explain that?
 
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GinGaru

Active Member
Weren't they confirmed to be full remakes?

Anyhow, how can Serena/Calem mega evolve her/his Absol? You won the mega ring. Did the game ever explain that?

it was said that serena/calem went to train under mega-evo guru at some point (i think after your battle against her/he in victory road)
 

fitzy909

Just another guy
it was said that serena/calem went to train under mega-evo guru at some point (i think after your battle against her/he in victory road)

That seems like the best assumption. Although, if there were two mega rings why not give her one at the same time?
 

BCVM22

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Although, if there were two mega rings why not give her one at the same time?

The implication would seem to be that in defeating your rival in the battle at the Tower of Mastery, the Mega Evolution guru deems you more "prepared" to take on the challenge of Mega Evolution at that time than your rival.
 

SurrealistSmeargle

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I'm still wondering how did Mewtwonite X and Mewtwonite Y came into existence cause Mewtwo was created a few years before gen 1 and 3 and the mega stones were created over 3000 years ago. Could have Team Rocket knew about mega evolution and created those mega stones but could never figure out how to recreate the mega ring to activate mega evolution.

I hope this gets cleared up in the rumored Gen I remakes or before Gen VI ends so the Mewtwo storyline receives closure at last.
You're kind of looking for a link that doesn't need to exist. The origins of Mega Evolution are pretty simple. After the ultimate weapon was fired 3000 years ago, its resultant radiation caused drastic changes to the properties of various evolution stones. For want of a better way to explain it, this changed its energy signature to one that, rather than, say, evolve a Togetic into a Togekiss, instead is specifically harmonised with that of a particular pokemon, and will trigger Mega Evolution. -Which- pokemon possesses that matching energy signature is entirely coincidental. Had Mewtwo never been created, the Mewtwonites would never have been anything more than a funny looking stone, and probably been as good as a glorified nugget. It was coincidence that the one clone of Mew that succeeded(ish) happened to be coordinated with these two stones in the Kalos region. A mega stone didn't need to have any contact with its pokemon prior to its creation for it to work.
 

Endolise

TengenToppaBoogaloo
Had Mewtwo never been created, the Mewtwonites would never have been anything more than a funny looking stone, and probably been as good as a glorified nugget. It was coincidence that the one clone of Mew that succeeded(ish) happened to be coordinated with these two stones in the Kalos region.

Although, it is entirely possible that it was not, in fact, a coincidence, and that the scientists who cloned Mewtwo specifically engineered it so that its energy signature would match that of the Mewtwonites, thereby giving it access to even more power.
 

Joth

Back from the Dead
it was said that serena/calem went to train under mega-evo guru at some point (i think after your battle against her/he in victory road)

Ok, must have missed that. Thanks!
 

PKMNOriginsRed

Pokemon Trainer
On the Mewtwo debate, its entirely likely that the scientists that created it created the mega stones as well.
 

SurrealistSmeargle

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On the Mewtwo debate, its entirely likely that the scientists that created it created the mega stones as well.
How do you come to that conclusion? Considering that Mega evolution isn't even that prevalent in the region it originated in, why would you assume that some random scientists from the other side of the PokeWorld would have managed to make a synthetic mega stone?

If the stone coincidentally was created by the same irradiating process as all the others, it makes a lot more sense. It could even provide a reason for Mewtwo to randomly be in Kalos, if we entertain the idea that its enhance perception from its psychic powers allowed it to detect it and seek it out.
 
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