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Kanto, Johto, Hoenn...countries??

Gily

Jade Star Trainer
i know that they are regions...but when you look at the show Ash really has no idea when it comes to new PKMN he comes across. When they go to Johto he freaks out b/c thers PKMN hes never seen and apparently stronger than Kanto ones. Do the different regions stay out of the affairs of the other ones? And do you think that Hoenn or Johto kids freak out when they see each others PKMN and even Kantos?
 

Desert_Rose

Amour toujours gagne
I think that they communicate with one another. I mean, think of the S.S. Anne. It travels all over the pokemon world. So the "countries" probably do interact.
 

sdp

Pokemon Master
Well from what we've seen is in the PKMN world instead of 'countries' they just have 'regions' instead.

The reason about ash freaking out at johto pokemon is at least in the original games Johto Pokemon were supposed to be new pokemon never before discovered during the red/blue timeline, the anime first wanted to do this but then opted to just Ash not knowing about them and they always existing.
 

Ralts Master

Knight of White Eye
Silver_Cat said:
I'm pretty sure that Johto, Kanto, Hoenn, and Orre are all seperate continents. Not countries.
Kanto and Johto are on the same landmass, because they're directly next to each other.

Hoenn's position relative to them is unknown, and the same for Orre.
 
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Geki

Guest
For the anime however, Orre isn't included. There are Kanto/Johto, which are next to each other, they're on the same continent. Hoenn is an island faraway from the mainland of Kanto/Johto. The Orange Archipeligo is south of Kanto/Johto. It's unknown the name and location of the 4th Generation Region.
 

.Bambi.

Be Wise, Tell Lies.
With Tohjo Falls attaching Johto to Kanto, I've always seen Kanto/Johto as a continent with Johto being a peninsula.

Seeing as Hoenn and Orre are nowhere near Kanto/Johto and/or eachother, I've always assumed they're separate countries/continents.

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Lupin

Legendary Pokémon Coordinator
I thought that they were all ment to be on seperate islands, representing the different islands of Japan?
 

Cybernetic Angel

Servant of Darkrai
Yeah, Kanto and Johto are part of the same landmass, as seen by the world map in Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal. As for the location of Hoenn, Orre and the Orange Island relative to those areas, well... anyone's guess.

Keep in mind that they can't be continents in themselves, either. Otherwise the anime would have been LONGER due to the fact that they walked most of the time, and crossing a continent is hard work. By this fact alone, I can speculate that the games have only shown a fraction of the entire Pokémon world, assuming that the planet is Earth-wise in density and volume.
 

Ledian_X

Don Ledianni
They're more like states than anything else. Like How New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Masachusetts, Conneticut and Rhode Island form the New England region.

A region isn't a country. Kanto and Johto are bordering each other and are regions. Hoenn is an island state southwest of Johto. There was a map showing this that Latios made a long time ago and was based on a map in a Japanese magazine.

Either way, it's more likely that the regions are all states of the same country. The pokemon world's map is based on Japan. Hoenn is Honshu island turned 90 degrees for example.

Kanto is based on the real Kanto region in Japan. Also, there's a thing called the nationaldex which includes all the pokemon in the country. So, it stands to reason that Kanto, Johto, Sevii and Hoenn are part of the same country. As for Oore, it's its own entity. It's completely landlocked.

LX

Edit: Found a map. It was created by SPP's Latios and Pipikachu

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Geki

Guest
Ledian_X said:
They're more like states than anything else. Like How New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Masachusetts, Conneticut and Rhode Island form the New England region.

A region isn't a country. Kanto and Johto are bordering each other and are regions. Hoenn is an island state southwest of Johto. There was a map showing this that Latios made a long time ago and was based on a map in a Japanese magazine.

Either way, it's more likely that the regions are all states of the same country. The pokemon world's map is based on Japan. Hoenn is Honshu island turned 90 degrees for example.

Kanto is based on the real Kanto region in Japan. Also, there's a thing called the nationaldex which includes all the pokemon in the country. So, it stands to reason that Kanto, Johto, Sevii and Hoenn are part of the same country. As for Oore, it's its own entity. It's completely landlocked.

LX

Edit: Found a map. It was created by SPP's Latios and Pipikachu

map.png

Good to see you're posting again Ledian X. But, wouldn't cities and towns be more like states, even though they're just smaller then states?
 

jindahouse

Water Pokemon Master
id have said they do keep in touch but its like here here different animals are found in different parts of the world so its the same with pokemon in there regions
 

Ledian_X

Don Ledianni
Been back at SPP for a while. Since September. I just haven't wandered into the Anime board until I saw this thread and though "Hmm I better reply."

Cities and towns are their own entities. They're not states. That would be a city-state and that's comething else. I really doubt the pokemon world is a collection of city-states as that type of government died out thousands of years ago. Governments are more centralized now.

They might be city-states. I don't know but I do have my own theory.

sdp, that wasn't what I meant at all. All I said was that the Pokemon world is based on Japan. There is a Japanese state known as Kanto, which encompasses Tokyo and the outlying areas. If you look at a map of Japan and a map of all the areas of the Pokemon world, it's Japan.

So, for all we know the Pokemon nation in the anime is an alternate version of Japan.

Anyway, Geki..states and city-states are very different from each other. I'd go into detail but you might want to look it up on Wikipedia. I'm just betting the pokemon world is set up into states/ Regions like the real Japan.

Another example would be how the United States is split into different regions. There's New England, the Midatlantic, the South, the Midwest, The mountain states, the Southwest and the Pacific. Each of those are regions Bu,t we don't call them countries. Each region is made out of states.

All together, they make a very large country. Canada is split up the same way with territories. As is Brazil and Germany. So perhaps the pokemon world is split into states: Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sevii/Orange.

I didn't include Oore because it's been established that it's far from those regions. That and it's landlocked.

LX
 
I've always thought of it like this.

There is Jhoto at the far left of the Pokemon world and right next to it is Kanto (just found out an interesting bit of trivia. Apparently it was called Kanto after the Japanese region of Kanto) and north of them is Orre. then underneath jhoto and Kanto is the Orange Islands(I always thought of them and the Sevii islands to be together) Hoenn is far to the east but they are all connected by Orre
 

Torkie10

Busy at the moment
They are connected. Honnen has artifacts from Jhoto/Kanto. Plus, Bill connected with what's-her-name... Lillian? And, Prof. Oak knew Mr. Pokemon, and one is from Jhoto and one is from Kanto. In addition, there is the Magnet Train and the S.S. Anne, not to mention the Tojho Falls. ;)
 
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