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Discussion in 'Older Gens' started by SmogonFreak, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. SmogonFreak

    SmogonFreak Make that 1 HP last!

    Keldeo is rumored to be released soon when the new movie comes out. There is no doubt that Keldeo is a force to be reckoned with in the OU metagame, but will it go as far as Uber? Most may not think so, but then we take a closer look at Keldeo...

    Base Stats:

    HP: 91
    Atk: 72
    Def: 90
    SpA: 129
    SpD: 90
    Spe: 108

    Ability: Justified-Boosts Attack by one stage when hit by a Dark-type move.

    With Justified, Keldeo can switch into almost any Dark-type move. It also fixes Keldeo's weakest stat, which, along with Swords Dance, can make it a threatening sweeper.

    1. Aqua Jet
    1. Leer
    7. Double Kick
    13. Bubblebeam
    19. Take Down
    25. Helping Hand
    31. Retaliate
    37. Aqua Tail
    43. Sacred Sword
    49. Swords Dance
    55. Quick Guard
    61. Work Up
    67. Hydro Pump
    73. Close Combat
    TM04: Calm Mind
    TM05: Roar
    TM06: Toxic
    TM07: Hail
    TM10: Hidden Power
    TM12: Taunt
    TM15: Hyper Beam
    TM17: Protect
    TM18: Rain Dance
    TM20: Safeguard
    TM21: Frustration
    TM27: Return
    TM32: Double Team
    TM33: Reflect
    TM40: Aerial Ace
    TM42: Facade
    TM44: Rest
    TM48: Round
    TM52: Focus Blast
    TM55: Scald
    TM67: Retaliate
    TM68: Giga Impact
    TM71: Stone Edge
    TM75: Swords Dance
    TM77: Psych Up
    TM81: X-Scissor
    TM83: Work Up
    TM84: Poison Jab
    TM90: Substitute
    TM94: Rock Smash
    HM01: Cut
    HM03: Strength
    HM04: Surf
    Secret Sword

    That's an impressive list. There are many Keldeo sets to be used. Certain examples are listed below:

    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Nature: Timid
    -Calm Mind
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden power Ghost
    -Secret Sword

    Same as above, except with Calm Mind instead of Hidden Power. HP Ghost hits Jellicent, Lati@s, Starmie, Celebi and Slowbro hard.

    Keldeo@Leftovers/Life Orb
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Nature: Adamant / Jolly
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -Aqua Tail
    -Stone Edge

    This set aims to SD up until you have enough Attack to OHKO everything, then you OHKO everything.. with your base 72 attack.

    Will Keldeo be Uber? Discuss.
  2. Blue Harvest

    Blue Harvest Banned

    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Nature: Timid
    -Calm Mind
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden Power Ghost
    -Secret Sword

    This is THE set everyone will be running. Its a terrifying set! Keldeo's only problem is fighting / water isn't the greatest coverage even with Hidden Power. Something will wall it and to make it worse its revenged by a decent number of things.

    Easy OU, but we'll have to see how high it gets.
  3. I can't think of a single instance where I would run Focus Blast over Secret Sword.
  4. Utopian

    Utopian faults & feats

    Keldeo is the specially based terrakion. GG

    except he actually benefits from rain while terrak doesn't benefit from sand
  5. Blue Harvest

    Blue Harvest Banned

    Pretty sure laughing at Gengar Focus Blasts counts as benefiting from Sand.

    #TWERKTEAM Banned

    It doesn't have near perfect coverage with two stab moves and two +2 boosting moves.
  7. overlordmewtwo

    overlordmewtwo Supreme Overlord

    There's no way Keldeo will make Ubers. Despite the fact that it has a huge physical movepool, its attack is very lacking and is in almost every way outclassed by Terrakion in that department.

    No, Keldeo will usually be running the set that Blue Harvest posted above. Not that physical attack isn't viable, but it could be better.

    I personally think Keldeo will be UU or BL at lowest and OU at best.
  8. Utopian

    Utopian faults & feats

    Keldeo is a better virizion.
  9. overlordmewtwo

    overlordmewtwo Supreme Overlord

    ^ That's another way to look at it, but it doesn't get the dual screens.
  10. Blue Harvest

    Blue Harvest Banned

    I'm just going to edit the OP myself...
  11. Utopian

    Utopian faults & feats

    Keldeo is a mother ****ing water horse. BH loves horses. BH will sweep with a team of 6 keldeos.
  12. zerofield

    zerofield i miss miror

    Great stats, great typing, great under rain, terrible movepool. Special movepool, that is, and imo special keldeo is the only keldeo worth running.

    No way in hell it wont be ou though.

    #TWERKTEAM Banned

    Not as good on more defensive teams where Virizion really shines due to it's ability to be a good anti rain team pokemon well except for Tornadus and Dnite. Keldeo is better for offensive teams
  14. Utopian

    Utopian faults & feats

    I was too lazy to edit my post to add this
  15. Blue Harvest

    Blue Harvest Banned

    I don't like horses, I just think horse dick jokes are funny. Also its a pony.

    Also a Swords Dance set it worthless.. it has worse physical offenses than Blissey does special.
  16. zerofield

    zerofield i miss miror

    Lulz, this, if you need to hit something on the physical side just use secret sword
  17. Keldeo just isn't overpowered enough to go to Ubers. It's pretty good in OU on Rain teams, but I don't see it much. It usually takes one or two of my Pokémon out before I can eliminate it.
  18. Blue Harvest

    Blue Harvest Banned

    I think the only set decision you should be making when using Keldeo is Surf / Hydro Pump. Its movepool is too tiny to use anything else. It literally has no other viable options besides Hidden Power / Calm Mind / Water move / Secret Sword.
  19. dragonuser™

    dragonuser™ the greatest crisis

    Keldeo is going to be a monster, and make rain that much more dangerous.

    I could easily see him going uber because of his speed/power/stabs/rain boost
  20. overlordmewtwo

    overlordmewtwo Supreme Overlord

    ^ But it's outclassed by so many Pokemon, even in the rain. Not that it won't be seen every once in a while in Ubers, but it lacks the movepool and survivability that many (if not, all) Ubers have.

    Like I said earlier, UU/BL at worst, OU at best. 'Nuff said.

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