LeafGreen Team

[Wandering Rhythmical Phoenix]

This time, I actualy thought about movesets!

Ho-oh @ Leftovers
Bold
Recover
Fireblast
Sunny Day
Aerial Ace

The Ho-oh from Colo. I havent changed it much >>

Venasaur @ Quick Claw
Naughty
Giga Drain
Solar Beam
Sleep Powder
~Open to Sugestion~

ho-oh SUnny days before he dies, then I sleep Powder into Solar Beam

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Timid
Dragon Claw
Outrage
Thunder Wave
Ice beam

His moveset I fixed up lastnight. Thunderwave Paralizes other dragons, then I Icebeam em'

Articuno @ NeverMeltIce
Modest
IceBeam
Fly
Arial Ace
Blizzard

Yeah, thisones sucks, I know.

Zapdos @ Lax Incence
Relaxed
ThunderBolt
Thunder Wave
Drill Peck
Charge

I threw charge inthere as an after thought insted of Thunder.

Alakazam @ ~Open~
Lax Nature
Psychic
Shock Wave
Reflect
Recover

Meh. Its Alakazam, I have him over Mewtwo because He was already at A higher level.
EDIT: I also have Espeon that I can use. If Need Be, I can post the move set

 

[Nightcat]

This time, I actualy thought about movesets!

Ho-oh @ Leftovers
modest/calm
Recover
Flamethrower/Sacred fire
CM/sunny day
Aerial Ace/solarbeam

The Ho-oh from Colo. I havent changed it much >>

Venasaur @ Quick Claw
Naughty
curse?/body slam
Solar Beam
sludge bomb/toxic
EQ?/light screen

ho-oh SUnny days before he dies, then I sleep Powder into Solar Beam

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Timid
FB
FP
sub
t-wave/filler

His moveset I fixed up lastnight. Thunderwave Paralizes other dragons, then I Icebeam em'

Articuno @ no.
Modest
IceBeam
agility/reflect
Arial Ace
steel wing/extrasensory

Yeah, thisones sucks, I know.

Zapdos @ Lax Incence
Relaxed
ThunderBolt
Thunder Wave
Drill Peck
steel wing

I threw charge inthere as an after thought insted of Thunder.

Alakazam @ lefties?
calm/modest Nature
Psychic
ice punch
Reflect
Recover

Meh. Its Alakazam, I have him over Mewtwo because He was already at A higher level.
EDIT: I also have Espeon that I can use. If Need Be, I can post the move set

yup yup!

w3 a53 t3h 1337. ;197;

 

[ShinyFufu]

This time, I actualy thought about movesets!


Ho-oh @ Leftovers-Petaya or Salac are also options
Bold(I wish u could change this to Timid or Modest)
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Speed, 6 SDef
Recover -Calm Mind
Fireblast-Sacred Fire
Sunny Day-Recover
Aerial Ace-Thunderbolt/Thunder/Solarbeam
Use Thunder if u think the opponent will switch into Kyogre, Solarbeam or Thunderbolt to fend off water types. If u use Solarbeam, Calm Mind FIRST so their water moves do nothing to you. Thunderbolt speaks for itself
The Ho-oh from Colo. I havent changed it much >>

Venasaur @ Quick Claw-LOL, don't use Hax Items if u can use something else. Go with Lefties, Leichi, Salac, Petaya, Scope Lens, Shell Bell. U should really use the berries or Lefties, I just put the others cuz i like them...
Naughty NO!!! Careful@Lefties,Gan.,Api. EVs:252HP,168SDef,62Def,8Speed
Giga Drain Synthesis, Leech Seed, Sludge Bomb, Sleep Powder
Solar Beam
Sleep Powder Adamant@Lefties,Lei.,Sal. EVs:252 Atk, 220 Speed, 38 HP
Swords Dance, Shadow Ball, EQ, Sleep Powder

Modest@Lefties,Pet.,Sal.EVs:210HP/88Def/60Spd/80SAtk/72Sdef
Razor Leaf, HP [Fire], Leech Seed, Sleep Powder
~Open to Sugestion~
Yeah, I gave him 3 movesets, cuz he can do all of them pretty well. Just choose the one u want most. I don't suggest u use the third one, getting a good Hidden Power Fire will be hard to obtain. Also, I highly suggest u always give Venusaur Lefties. Go with the berries if u don't wanna give it Lefties. Use the Hax Items I put if u can't use Lefties or the berries.

ho-oh SUnny days before he dies, then I sleep Powder into Solar Beam

Dragonite @ Leftovers, Leichi, or Salac. Lefties is good.
Timid(Horrible nature, go with Lonely)
EVs:52 HP, 204 Atk, 184 Speed, 68 SAtk
Dragon Claw-Dragon Dance
Outrage-Earthquake
Thunder Wave-Hidden Power [Flying]/Aerial Ace
Ice beam-Ice Beam is good, or u could go with T-Bolt or Thunder

His moveset I fixed up lastnight. Thunderwave Paralizes other dragons, then I Icebeam em'

Articuno @ NeverMeltIce LOL...Lefties
Modest(Good, Calm would have worked)
EVs: 252 HP, 136 SDef, 122 SAtk
IceBeam
Fly-Water Pulse
Arial Ace-Reflect
Blizzard-Toxic/Rest
You can switch the HP and SAtk EVs if u want, but i don't recommend it.

Yeah, thisones sucks, I know.

Zapdos @ Lax Incence No, use Choice Band for this set
Relaxed Lonely or Naughty
EVs:216 Atk, 240 Speed, 54 SAtk
ThunderBolt-Good
Thunder Wave-Toxic, Sub, Rest, Return, Double Edge are also options
Drill Peck-Good
Charge-Never use this move, Hidden Power [Grass/Fighting]
I HATE Zappy, he NEEDS Max Strength Hidden Power to work effectively.

I threw charge inthere as an after thought insted of Thunder.

Alakazam @ Lum Berry, Petaya if Timid Nature, Salac if Modest Nature
Lax Nature(Modest or Timid)
Psychic-Good
Shock Wave-Calm Mind
Reflect Fire Punch
Recover Thunderpunch, Ice Punch, Hidden Power [Dark/Water]
If u get Hidden Power Dark at Max Power, u are probably the luckiest person to play pokemon ever. To get Hidden Power Dark at Max Strength, u need completely Flawless IVs, which is like a 1 in a billion(or is it million?) chance to get.

I HIGHLY SUGGEST U USE LUM BERRY INSTEAD OF THE PINCH BERRIES

Meh. Its Alakazam, I have him over Mewtwo because He was already at A higher level.
EDIT: I also have Espeon that I can use. If Need Be, I can post the move set

So uh... yeah there u go. I gave u EV Spreads, u seriously need them if u want your team to be good. Also, u have an EXTREME weakness to Boltbeam, so u may want to get a pokemon to counter that.

Wow, I think I am getting pretty good at rating...

Also, I would like to ask why everyone always talks about Boltbeam, but they never talk about something I made up. It is called "Flameclaw", which uses Dragon Claw and Flamethrower together. Absolutely no pokemon resists it, unlike Boltbeam which as 3 resists(Lanturn, Magneton, can't remember the other). Maybe it is becuz I don't talk about it much...

 

[Nightcat]

MMSP, Ho-oh doesn't need CM because of it's kick*** sp. atk, and if you're gonna have solarbeam, make it a sunnybeam instead of CM, because otherwise you will be PWNED.
However you CAN have AA or t-bolt on it.
And don't suggest HP for in-game except for things with limited movepools that need a move of that type.
Articuno: WP is way too weak.
You have way too much rests and subs and stuff...
And SubPunching Dragonite is wicked if it has FB. Leave it like that.

And you really didn't need all those comments in the rate. In fact, you don't even need comments at all. =P

w3 a53 t3h 1337. ;197;

 

[ShinyFufu]

yes, Ho-oh does need CM in this case. It's nature is bold, which does absolutely nothing to his Special Stats. in the Uber Metagame, 110 Base Special Attack just doesn't cut it, so yeah CM is needed. And why would have Aerial Ace if it has a -attack nature? Sunnybeamer is WAY too common, but it does work effectively. With its 154 Base Special Defense, he can Solarbeam without fear of water attacks after just ONE CM. Think of how strong he would be after 3, or 6! So, yes Ho-oh needs CM, at least for the Special Attacking set. And he doesn't need Sunny Day at all. You will not get PWNED(whatever that means) just becuz u don't have Sunny Day. You will get PWNED if it doesn't have Calm Mind.

And u can never go wrong with Rest or Sub! Restoration and Protection of HP, can u please tell me how u can have too much of that?

As for WP on Articuno, what else can it learn? He has the nature for it to be a Special Sweeper, not a special sponge(which is what it should be, that is why he should have gotten Calm nature) so I put a special attack to cover his weaknesses. I knew that he probably wouldn't get HP Water at max so I put WP to cover its Fire and Rock weakness. It also takes care of Ground types who may use Rock Moves.

For the Hidden Powers, some of them need it to be effective. I already know how hard they are to get, I don't need someone to tell me that they are hard to get in-game...besides, i put other moves he could choose from if he couldn't get the correct Hidden Power...


And how the heck does Subpunching Dragonite with FB(whatever that is, I assume it is Fire Blast) work? If FB is Fire Blast, a Suicune can counter it, so it really isn't that wicked. That is why I changed it. He didn't even put a subpunching Dragonite with FB, so how am I supposed to leave that as how it is?

Also, I made the comments so that the owner of the team wouldn't think I was stupid for putting HP Fighting on something like Zapdos. Though I could said less comments...

Edit: I also noticed some things in your suggested movesets that weren't great...

u gave dragonite Focus Punch, even though it has an -attack nature. I guess it makes sense with that high base power and his high base attack, but still...
U gave Articuno Steel Wing and Aerial Ace with an -attack nature again. while I admit it was a good idea to include extransensory(i should have done that with articuno and I should have done that with Zapdos so he became a full special sweeper)Steel Wing and Aerial Ace are gonna be too weak. Considering Attack is its lowest stat and it has that -attack nature.
U didn't say anything about the Quick Claw... and lefties on Zam? He isn't gonna last that long anyway, so Lefties is virtually useless on it.

 

[Nightcat]

I know, I said you can have either one. It's just you need sunny day, other wise when you're charging someone might bring out a... T-tar... and pwn you before you can even get going. Just because a Cune can counter a SupPunching dragonite, doesn't mean it isn't awesome. Check out the coverage:

FB: grass, bug, steel, ice
FP: normal, rock, steel, ice, dark.
you can stick ice beam in there as well.
The other set is:

Dragonite@lefties
- FB
- ice beam
- sub/dragon claw
- t-bolt/t-wave

yeah.
And WP on stuff is bad if it doesn't get STAB because, well, it just is.
That's why extrasensory or steel wing is good there...

w3 a53 t3h 1337. ;197;

 

[ShinyFufu]

I know, I said you can have either one. It's just you need sunny day, other wise when you're charging someone might bring out a... T-tar... and pwn you before you can even get going. Just because a Cune can counter a SupPunching dragonite, doesn't mean it isn't awesome. Check out the coverage:

FB: grass, bug, steel, ice
FP: normal, rock, steel, ice, dark.
you can stick ice beam in there as well.
The other set is:

Dragonite@lefties
- FB
- ice beam
- sub/dragon claw
- t-bolt/t-wave

yeah.
And WP on stuff is bad if it doesn't get STAB because, well, it just is.
That's why extrasensory or steel wing is good there...

w3 a53 t3h 1337. ;197;

First of all, about the Ho-oh thing... even if an opponent does switch a T-Tar into Ho-oh, will a Base 61 Speed Pokemon outrun a Base 90 Speed Ho-oh? Since when would a T-Tar out run a Ho-oh? Even with fully EV trained Speed it won't outrun Ho-oh. So u will Solarbeam it before it can even touch u. Automatic OHKO becuz of your EVs, and T-Tar will not have any SDef EVs. So yeah, a T-Tar will never pwn a charging Ho-oh on the switch. If it were a Ho-oh vs. a T-Tar right away, wouldn't it just be smart to switch out Ho-oh? So, Sunny Day is not needed, CM is a better choice.

And for the Subpuching Dragonite set, Cune isn't the only one that counters it. Ever heard of Milotic? A Dusclops would pretty much outstall u seeing as how your most effective move is no use at all. With prediction, a Weezing could survive against that. And why would u have both Dragon Claw and Ice Beam on the same pokemon? Dragon Claw is sort of a waste becuz that takes away your versatility. And there are lots of others that counter Subpunch Dragonite. Swampert will counter u, heck, even with FB, a Metagross will counter it, but u will need prediction.

Just becuz a WP doesn't get STAB doesn't mean it is bad. In fact, that is a bad explanation why u should not use WP, just "becuz it is". And once again, Steel Wing on Articuno is worse than WP on Articuno. Why? You said WP doesn't get STAB on Articuno... does Steel Wing? No. Look at its base stats. 85 base attack is AVERAGE while 95 base special attack is ABOVE AVERAGE. Also, the counter to Articuno is most likely a physical Rock or Ground type, becuz of its Special Defense. So WP actually has more use than Steel Wing.

 

[Nightcat]

'teva.
EDIT:crap, I accidentally posted. We both have opinions, and the owner of this thread can decide on whose rate to use.
Wanna bet Tazzler/F_M's gonna rate this?
w3 a53 t3h 1337. ;197;

 

[ShinyFufu]

'teva.
EDIT:crap, I accidentally posted. We both have opinions, and the owner of this thread can decide on whose rate to use.
Wanna bet Tazzler/F_M's gonna rate this?
w3 a53 t3h 1337. ;197;

what is 'teva?

And I bet F_M's gonna rate this... he rates everything, and he is probably one of the best out there.

 

[Nightcat]

what is 'teva?

And I bet F_M's gonna rate this... he rates everything, and he is probably one of the best out there.

my little way of saying whatever. :3
Yeah, Tazzler too.
so yeah. We don't want this to turn into SPAM.

w3 a53 t3h 1337. ;197;

 

[chaos952]

First of all, about the Ho-oh thing... even if an opponent does switch a T-Tar into Ho-oh, will a Base 61 Speed Pokemon outrun a Base 90 Speed Ho-oh? Since when would a T-Tar out run a Ho-oh? Even with fully EV trained Speed it won't outrun Ho-oh. So u will Solarbeam it before it can even touch u.

Tyranitar used Rock Slide!

 

[ShinyFufu]

Tyranitar used Rock Slide!

Ugh, u obviously don't get it. Look at this way

Go! Ho-oh!

Go! Venusaur

Ho-oh gathered sunlight!

Venusaur switched to Tyranitar!

Ho-oh used Solarbeam!

Tyranitar TRIED to use Rock Slide but it fainted

Ho-oh wins...

Plz understand this. Ho-oh is FASTER THAN TYRANITAR SO IF IT HAS ALREADY BEGAN CHARGING AND U SWITCH IT IN, SOLARBEAM WILL GO FIRST AND KILL IT. However, if it is Ho-oh vs. Tyranitar at the beginning, there is this little tactic called "switching". Please don't try to prove me wrong if u don't know what your talking about.