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Least favourite gym leader

Discussion in 'Animé Polls' started by Shuriken Throw, Aug 16, 2019.

  1. Shuriken Throw

    Shuriken Throw Well-Known Member

    Here is a thread to discuss our least favourite gym leaders from the Pokemon Anime series.
    I'll get started and say that mine is Viola. I did not like seeing Ash struggle with the first Kalos gym, especially since he struggled with that cheap ice field trick.
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  2. shoz999

    shoz999 Do you wanna try a good Tapu Cocoa? My treat.

    Marlon. Where do I begin with this guy. We never get a look inside his Gym because the battle takes place outside. We rarely get to see Ash & Co. explore Humilau City or the Marine Tube nearby which is just one of the most graphically and artistically stunning locations of BW2. Also his ace Pokemon shouldn't be Mantine, it should be Jellicent from the games. They don't even treat this guy like a character of the day. They treat him more like a random stranger with almost no character or personality. Still, I did enjoyed the Pokemon battle somewhat but that's about really it.
  3. J.Agera

    J.Agera Well-Known Member

    It kinda made sense considering he is actually BW Ash, just came from Unova.
    That gym battle finally made him question himself which he should have done long ago in the BW series.
    He realised(with help from Serena) that he needs to step up.
    Thus, we get the competent Ash in XY.
    Basically converting BW Ash into XY Ash.
    Which is good that the writers didn't suddenly make him turn into a competent trainer.
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  4. Pokegirl Fan~

    Pokegirl Fan~ Rei Claus

    Probably a tie between Korrina and Skyla
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  5. Captain Jigglypuff

    Captain Jigglypuff Leader of Jigglypuff Army Staff Member Moderator

    I really never liked Marlon because he was just so easy to defeat in BW2 and was laughably weak for a final Gym Leader when compared to the likes of Clair and Juan with their Kingdra which was before the Fairy typing existed and Dragon types still pretty rare, Wulfric with his Avalugg that could punish harshly with Avalanche given that it also knew Curse and would most likely be attacking after you go, and Volkner who had Thunder Wave he could abuse. Wallace was also a challenge with his Milotic knowing Recover and the Marvel Scale Ability. With Marlon, all you really needed was a high leveled Pokémon that knew Thunder and/or Thunderbolt. Carracosta’s Sturdy could help it survive the initial attack but if you used a Super Effective multi-strike Attack on it, Carracosta goes down like paper. Even in Hard Mode, Mantine is considered very weak for an Ace if you can take it out with a Thundershock. This is even made worse that on Hard mode, I once nearly wiped out his entire team with a Lv 38 Galvatula with Thunderbolt and a single Volt Switch. That’s just sad.
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  6. MockingJ

    MockingJ Banned

    Wattson because he lost so fast and his two episodes weren't that great when I think about their content. Also Marlon because Ash and him didn't interact and his episode was wasted on Cameron.
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  7. Zoruagible

    Zoruagible Lover of underrated characters

    "Hey, let's try to make one of the first two gym leaders in BW 2 work as the final gym leader" "That's a fine idea, let's do it! Nevermind the fact we've got Marlon and Drayden for Ash to fight" "And then let's further pour salt into the wound by making Ash lose to Cheren, and never battle the other two!"

    I like Roxie in the games, but she was literally the worst gym leader in Best Wishes! Why couldn't they give Cameron her and let Ash face Marlon instead? Then that new trainer.... whatever her name was from the end, they could have her face Cheren. While Iris beat Drayden. Problem solved, all gym leaders get great focus and don't make Ash or them look awful in the process!
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  8. WishIhadaManafi5

    WishIhadaManafi5 Happy Holidays! Staff Member Moderator

    Misty. Couldn't stand her attitude sometimes.
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  9. Leonhart

    Leonhart Well-Known Member

    Corni, because she felt more like a giant billboard that was meant to advertise Lucario and Mega Evolution, and she traveled with Satoshi's group for a while which made the promotional effort worse.
  10. KyogreThunder

    KyogreThunder Call of Fate

    Erika was annoying when she kicked Ash out of her Gym just because he insulted her perfume, and her Gloom seemed overpowered, too. Sabrina' s abilities were rather ridicolous, too.
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  11. U.N. Owen

    U.N. Owen In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night ...

    I think that was just satire on psychic types in general. Psychic types were the most ridiculously overpowered types in the entire Gen 1 games. It made Gen 4/Gen 5 Dragon look tame in comparison.
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  12. Zoruagible

    Zoruagible Lover of underrated characters

    Oh right, she definitely deserved getting her license revoked for that. So he doesn't like perfume, so what? He's a 10 year old boy, what do you expect?
    I still say Roxie's the worst, but Erika's up there
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  13. Captain Jigglypuff

    Captain Jigglypuff Leader of Jigglypuff Army Staff Member Moderator

    In the anime, I basically lost all respect for Sabrina and the total garbage reason of how and why Ash got the Marsh Badge. I know it’s not really her fault but that Gym battle ended up being so anti-climatic. First off Haunter was never owned by Ash nor did he catch it. Haunter just decided to follow Ash. Second making Sabrina laugh isn’t the same as defeating her no matter how hard you try. At least with Erika, Ash actually did something of value to get the badge when he ran into the burning Gym to save Gloom. Yeah it was a cop out but not everyone would literally run back into a burning building to save a Pokémon that is trapped inside without the proper training and equipment. With Koga, Ash did have a battle even though it was interrupted by TRio. But there’s no justification for Sabrina.
  14. Leonhart

    Leonhart Well-Known Member

    Erika denying Satoshi a chance to battle her didn't feel like something that would've been against the rules to me, however. She was in charge of both the perfume shop and the Tamamushi Gym, so if she had an issue with Satoshi's behavior at the shop, then it seemed within her right to also refuse to battle him.
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  15. Lunalah

    Lunalah Well-Known Member

    Giovanni because he never got to battle Ash at the Viridian Gym and also because he was dumb for leaving the Gym in the care of the Team Rocket trio. That was like leaving a bull in a china shop.
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  16. Burgh, I could barely stand the guy.
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  17. TheWanderingMist

    TheWanderingMist Kanae, Keeper of the Gates Emblazoned

    Why do people keep blaming Erika? It was literally her employees blocking Ash's way. She even told them to step aside because a challenge was a challenge regardless of who it was coming from.

    Anyway, the worst one was probably Clay. Complaining about Attract being OP doesn't really make you look intelligent.
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  18. JustAStatistic

    JustAStatistic Casual Trainer

    Giovanni was straight up dumb for leaving his gym the grunts, but really, OS was a really bad showing for all the Kanto gym leaders. It's part of the reason I'd like a short spinoff series (maybe starring Lillie or Gladion taking on the Indigo league), so they can retcon some of the dumber things about OS.
  19. Sonnas

    Sonnas Well-Known Member

    Isn't that what the show is supposed to do, advertise the games?
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  20. Sonnas

    Sonnas Well-Known Member

    I'm going to go with Skyla because of her dumb air battles since in one of the battles she had Swanna use Aqua Ring to block Thunderbolt.
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