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Legendaries in Fics

katiekitten

The Compromise
Couldn't see another topic like this in the cafe. I remember one a while back, but it is long gone now. If it is not allowed, just lock this. ^.^;;

The question: How do you use/see legendaries in fics?

Do you think that they all should be simulair to how they are shown in the anime/games, or anything goes?

Phoenix readers, I would advise you to skip the rest of this post. :D XD

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In my fic, I use two. Five now that I come to think of it, but three of them are minor characters. The main two are Rayquaza, (However you spell it. @.@), and Jirachi.

Rayquaza plays an interesting role. He had a family, once, but lost them in his youth. He was not there at the time, but when he returned he automatically assumed it was Groundon. He hid away for a while in his old home, mourning them and nursing his hatred until it became to much to bear. He emerged and started invading groundons territory, waging a war with the fire titan. Kyogre came in to assist her brother, and a huge war began. Thousands of pokemon and human lives were lost, until celebi intervened and sent them into a temporary 100 year sleep. Rayquaza's experiences left him hard and cold, uncaring. For he fears that if he gets close to anyone again, they will be torn away from him like him family. He is proud and self rightious, and considers pokemon and humans as only food, not living, breathing, compassionate creatures.

And then there is Jirachi...

Jirachi was not always a legendary. No, he was born into a small, mountain specie, a specie with small mental power. The tribe, a group of creatures who named themselves the 'Jir', lived in the Eparog mountain range. After the tradition in the tribe, a certain baby Jir was named Jirachi, meaning first born. The specie were like monkeys today; intelligent, but not much so. Jirachi was different, however. Smarter than the others, with enhanced mental power. But it was a small difference, he had the intelligence and nature of a human child, and the ability to move small things with his mind. Grass, leaves, small stones, that sort. After his first year, though, he became separated from the tribe after getting crushed by a rockslide, whilst on a hunting trip. He managed to get free, but at the cost of his legs. He could no longer walk.

He dragged himself to a nearby cave, and dwelled there for weeks, surviving on a pool of water that collected in the heart of the cave, and fish from that very lake. His femurs were shattered, thankfully nothing piercing the skin, but the bone set crookedy, rendering him permanently crippled. (Or so he thought). As time passed, he honed his mental ability, stretching it, building it up, until he was able to use it to hover above the ground, slightly. But that was the limit of his tribes power, so he cast around for a different source of energy to boost his mental ability. He had small telepathic abilities, and with it he was able to delve into the minds of fish, and discover their wishes, their hopes, their dreams. It was not much, but somehow he figured out a way to harness that power, that will to make such things come true. And thus, Jirachi was born again.

He practised daily with his mental ability, stretching it out to the limit, increasing his range for leagues. With every metre he found new creatures, all harboring what the fish had. Hope. He grew stronger and stronger, and was able to move about freely, flying instead of walking. He abandoned his old cave, fondly liberating the fish from their neverending torment of swimming around in circles by pushing water up from inside the earth and creating a stream there once more. Retreating farther into the mountains, he found his current home, a large cave with a huge pillar of black onyx running through the center. Which is where he made his new home.

I was thinking with the legs, that he could heal them over time, that as he grew more powerful, he would finally be strong enough to heal himself. Then it would lead him to nowadays. =D

Quite a bit different to what the anime and games say, don't you agree? XD

Ok, there we go. I said it. The thing that has been worrying me for ages, and prevented me from writing Phoenix. I know I shouldn't worry about what others think of parts of the story like this, but it does...



Anyways, sorry for boring you all. ^.^;; Please do post with your interpretations of the legendaries, it will be intersting to see what you all think.

=D
 
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Neko Godot

Hey! Listen!
My fic is kind of following the game rules for legendaries, in which you can capture them, but it's a pain in the *** to do so.
In my fic,[spoil]Team Rocket has so far captured the three legendary birds.[/spoil]
Well, anyway, that's my take on legendaries.
 

FlamingRuby

The magic of Pokemon
If I have to use legendaries, I treat them as the anime does: as "gods" or sages...they usually have very important information or a mystical item for my characters (or Ash and co.) but first, the characters have to prove themselves in some form to get that info/item. (i.e. a fight, a question, a sidequest, etc.)
 

katiekitten

The Compromise
I like the idea of a self made legendary, myself. =D I've always thought that the legendaries were like Dinosaurs that didn't die. XD Although I do like portraying them as gods... XD
 

Bay

YEAHHHHHHH
Yeah, I remember there was once a legendaries thread a while back when I was a newbie here. Well, since I am going to have TWO fics dealing with legendaries, I might as well speak. (You can assume this to be a spoiler but not much).

The two fics I have are actually going to protrayed them differently. One is going to be a one shot (orignally going to be a short chapered fic) called "Pure Distance". In it, a boy will find an injured Suicune. He then took it to his home. At first the boy was happy because he wanted to have a Suicune for a long time. He always thought Suicune to be this mystical and powerful creature. After a little while, the boy later found out how Suicune actually had flaws like humans do-like eating a lot of food and crying. This story will show how legendaries are not so legendary after all.

The second story will be a chaptered fic after I get done with "Heart of the Sea". It will be called "Nothing, Everything". In this story, Molly (yes, the same girl from the third Pokemon movie) and a guy named Drake were on a quest to search some documents on the truth of some of the legendaries and also some Pokemon...after someone was murdered. Not only that, but other people were on for the chase also. (Yeah, it is sorta based on "Da Vinci Code" but it will be quite different-well I hope so as I had not really planned it thorugh yet). This will so how there are consequences in finding the truth.

Um, yeah. Bascially I use the legendaries as they will be an important part in my stories. I guess you can say I am making sort of a modern mythology in my stories as I am going to protray the legendaries as having sort of "god" like powers, but they also have stories about them too.

Hope this makes sense. ^^;

;134;~Good night, and good luck~
 
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PDL

disenchanted
currently, the only legendaries I've dealt with so far in Sabrina's Story have been Latios and Latias. They've only had minor appearences... So far...

The part they play will be very important to the overall plot of the story, but I won't give any details yet ;)















perhaps Mew might make an appearence as well, but it'll be minimal.
 

Dragonfree

Just me
I'm very inconsistent in how I portray legendaries depending on what sort of fic I'm writing at that particular moment.

In Chains and Shackles, for example, Mew and Mewtwo are blatantly representing the Christian God and Jesus Christ. In an old one-shot of mine called Legendary Revenge, the Beasts are mortal but somewhat godlike as in that all wild Pokémon love and respect them.

However, the interpretation I'm proudest of is the one in the center of the plot of The Quest for the Legends.

Major theme spoilers which nonetheless do not touch upon the plot follow

[spoil]The legendaries are basically immortal Pokémon with extreme powers who take care of the world in a godlike fashion.

However, they are not gods. They simply, as the most powerful creatures in the world by a large margin, feel a kind of need to take responsibility. Granted, not all the legendaries just feel so responsible, but they are more or less kept together by the most powerful ones, who do feel that responsibility.

The legendaries are imperfect and can betray, hate and make unjust, rash decisions. They have bias, can be tempted and don't always know the whole story. But most important of all, they can greatly overestimate their own stage of perfection...[/spoil]
 

Seijiro Mafuné

Diogomainardista!
...and gods can't do it?

I got one saying regarding that: "If enough people believe you're a god, then you're a god." Especially if you can prove it, like the Legendaries can.

Your own description of them is pretty much describing a deity - which, if it's a Major Deity, is something with EXTREME POWERS who takes care of its people (and, in some cases, the world).

You were a tad contradictory there... but it's your view, not mine, so I say nothing more.

I can't really explain my view - too much stuff, too little time, too bad for the computer.
 
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katiekitten

The Compromise
Dragonfree, I like that theme very much. :)

That is exactly how I see the legendaries. Powerful, but not created that way. Not all of them. Each of them has a unique story, of how they got to the position they are in.

The thing I never liked about the gods theory, is that none of them worked for this power. They were just handed it on a golden platter. And so I came up with my version of Jirachi. =D
 

Yami Ryu

Well-Known Member
Well my views on the legends is they're gods basically.



In one fic, I had it where the immortality and power was passed onto their offspring, and then after a short time the parent passes away, sorta to prevent them from growing corrupt, as it's said power corrupts.

In one of my trainer fics, with Magma trying to awaken Groudon, I had Groudon as something akin to Godzilla. Or well, not utterly. But in the attitude. The whole, I kick *** I take names. To show off his power after waking up from his slumber in a volcano, I was gonna have him blow up Seafoam Island :x just boom

Overall as you can see I portray most legendaries as god like creatures, or all powerfull beings.
 

katiekitten

The Compromise
I agree with the powerful beings. The being born with it has always niggled me though...

A little more on Jirachi. XD

I wanted to make it so Jirachi was one of a kind, but just something that wasn't, like quite a few legendaries, given his power on a golden platter. (To put it in nowaday terms, the old money, the money inherited, and the new money, those who found a good business strategie and worked upon it, to become millionaires). I wanted him to be the one who had not been born with it, but with had found it himself. He is one of a kind, for the Jir died out soon afterwards. He was smarter than most, a prodigy in his own kind, and he found the key to never-ending power, a power that could never be exhausted, power that was originally wasted. A power that was emitted in waves from every living creature; dreams, hopes, wishes. It was with this discovery that he became a legend, evolving, in a way, to deal with his incapabilities and allow him to cope with this advancement of his mental power.

As you might be able to tell, I am having a little discussion on this with Orange Flaaffy. =D
 

Orange_Flaaffy

Jello Pokéballs
I've actually never liked writing about legendaries. Something about them having so much power, no matter if it was from 'birth' or otherwise, never truly appealed to me. I guess my reason for feeling this way is because with a disability like I have, things that normal people take for granted as being able to do seem almost 'god-like' to me in a way. So, to transfer this idea to the realm of pokemon (in an odd 'if pokemon with normal power levels were your everyday human' sort of way) common pokemon just seem more easy to relate to, and already amaze me, and thus, I write about them in my stories nine times out of ten.
The overall legends the surround legendaries are interesting, but the actual pokemon are not for me.

Now, this is not to say an author should not write about them, I just would not be number one on their readers lists.
 

Typhlogirl

keep battling on!
In one of my two fics, The Pokemon Rebellion, (since all the major characters are pokemon) my charas treat the legendaries as gods. For example, they say things like (when a great storm hits) 'Raikou is angry'. They see the legendaries as we see God, or whichever god we believe in. They use the names of the legends in reverence and respect. E.g. 'May Ho-oh protect us'. :/

However, in my other fic (Erm...PokeTalk), which is on a completely different scale to the aforementioned one, I enjoyed taking the crap out of said legends. o_o

XD I'm strange.

-;157;
 

PDL

disenchanted
Orange_Flaaffy said:
I've actually never liked writing about legendaries. Something about them having so much power, no matter if it was from 'birth' or otherwise, never truly appealed to me. I guess my reason for feeling this way is because with a disability like I have, things that normal people take for granted as being able to do seem almost 'god-like' to me in a way. So, to transfer this idea to the realm of pokemon (in an odd 'if pokemon with normal power levels were your everyday human' sort of way) common pokemon just seem more easy to relate to, and already amaze me, and thus, I write about them in my stories nine times out of ten.
The overall legends the surround legendaries are interesting, but the actual pokemon are not for me.

I never really thought about it that way before...

I also don't really like the way legendaries are portrayed as all-powerful beings in most fics, yes, they do possess abilites that seem more incredible then "regular" pokemon, but 9 times out of 10, while they have earth-shattering powers, omnipotenticy and such, they also have the personality of a block of wood. I guess it depends on the writer's skill I suppose...

The Lati@s I have in my fic will certainly not be portrayed as god-like beings...

The Lati's were once much like human beings. The main characters, normal pokemon, might even need to help them.

It would also be very interesting to see a fanfic where the so-called legendary pokemon were in fact, completely ficticous. Just myths created by storytellers, much like unicorns and dragons in the real world.
 
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Orange_Flaaffy

Jello Pokéballs
That is a very good idea, I might just write it someday :3.
Yes, in many stories it seems that with great power does not come great personality. I think many authors actually go out of their way to show that legendaries emotions and\or needs are far above those of a normal pokemon. Often, I'd say it is almost a case of them getting bored of themselfs and\or having so much that they have no higher calling in their lives...
 

katiekitten

The Compromise
That is a good idea, PDL. It would be nice to see someone write it. XD

It is annoying when people do that, Orange, isn't it? Just use them as all powerful beings who reign from high above and can do no wrong.

I guess some legends would hate it, wouldn't they? Nothing to strive for when the whole world is at their feet. I know that when I finally get something I have been pestering my parents for years if we could get, once I got it I felt... Odd. I actually declined it the first time, for I seriously began to think about what could happen if I got it. (In this case, a dog. I could just see one chewing up all of my toys... Which he does do, occasionaly. XD) It took a year or two for me to decide that yes, I did want a dog.

Wouldn't it be the same for some of the legendaries? Or not. XD They would be bored, though. XD
 

Xtra

You will be missed:(
I really don't like portraying legendaries as gods. I just think of them as super strong pokemon.

And no, it's not just because I'm a christian (though thta's a big part of it). it's also because I try to follow the game more than the anime, since I'm more familiar with that. And since they can be caught in the game, they're not all powerful.
 

Dragonfree

Just me
Seijiro Mafuné said:
Reply to Dragonfree's spoilers follows

[spoil]...and gods can't do it?

I got one saying regarding that: "If enough people believe you're a god, then you're a god." Especially if you can prove it, like the Legendaries can.

Your own description of them is pretty much describing a deity - which, if it's a Major Deity, is something with EXTREME POWERS who takes care of its people (and, in some cases, the world).

You were a tad contradictory there... but it's your view, not mine, so I say nothing more.[/spoil]
I would really appreciate if you did not reply to something in spoiler tags without putting the reply in spoiler tags yourself. I therefore reserve the right to edit your post.

More spoilers follow

[spoil]Not true.

Deities are generally supposed to have created the world, be omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, or otherwise something really special, supernatural and amazing that will treat you well if you please them with prayers/sacrifices/etc. - and they are almost always supposed to be "higher" than the people who believe in them by nature.

I'm talking about something more like a false prophet who arrives in a country of gullible people, babbles about how he is a messenger of God, is made king and worshipped by the people because he has a long gray beard and they think that must confirm his authority, and he ends up starting to believe his own story. Sure, according to your "saying", that makes him a god, but I really can't believe you are unable to see any difference between the two cases.[/spoil]
 
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Seijiro Mafuné

Diogomainardista!
...let me see... no, that isn't a spoiler, since, I dunno, I wasn't spoiling things...

And I was just stating that, despite it being YOUR view of how the Legendaries are, it doesn't mean real deities can't be like that. Additionally, a deity can be mortal and still be considered that - Greeks, anyone?

And you mistook it. A god normally tends to have some sort of power (usually coming from his believers' beliefs) that allows him/her to lord over others. That 'long gray beard' wouldn't cut it... also, the people would likely want him to do things that prove his deism, like making it rain or healing the sick or what-not. Examples which you didn't indicate.

And who said the Legendaries, even according to YOUR vision, aren't being portrayed like what you said they aren't? You say you see 'super powered creatures who aren't gods'... I see gods.
 
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Dragonfree

Just me
...let me see... no, that isn't a spoiler, since, I dunno, I wasn't spoiling things...
Your reply more or less implied a reproduced version of what I put in spoiler tags, and if I put it in spoiler tags, it means that I consider it to be a spoiler for my fic, whether you like it or not. Now stop trying to be a rebel by removing the spoiler tags. You have no right to go around spoiling other people's fics.

And I was just stating that, despite it being YOUR view of how the Legendaries are, it doesn't mean real deities can't be like that. Additionally, a deity can be mortal and still be considered that - Greeks, anyone?
I never said anything even close to deities always being immortal.

Give me an example of a deity that actually has none of the features I posted as defining deities.

And you mistook it. A god normally tends to have some sort of power (usually coming from his believers' beliefs) that allows him/her to lord over others. That 'long gray beard' wouldn't cut it... also, the people would likely want him to do things that prove his deism, like making it rain or healing the sick or what-not. Examples which you didn't indicate.
What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not telling you that the prophet story is realistic; I'm saying it's comparable to the legendaries in this particular fic, which it is.

And who said the Legendaries, even according to YOUR vision, aren't being portrayed like what you said they aren't? You say you see 'super powered creatures who aren't gods'... I see gods.
Uh, "see"? Considering it's my own fic, they are obviously exactly how I write them and it's not just me "seeing" things.
 
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