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Legendary Pokémon Thread v2

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BCVM22

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KKS-Lapras said:
I'll quote myself, since no one answered my question. If the answer is no, it would just be nice to get some clarity.
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There's nothing new to release. We got their typings, [parts of] their movesets, signature moves and at least a vague idea of base stats when the Pokémon themselves were discovered. What more are you waiting for in this capacity?
 
rocky505

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The only thing remaining about them is the entirety of their movesets. Well they could possibly have some event like Diancie does when you obtain it.
 
dirkac

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Dreis

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One could make a reasonable assumption that the next (either Hoopa or Volcanion) will be shown as a teaser at the end of the Diance movie. Wether they will then follow through and release detailed information is anyones guess.
 
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Crystalline_3

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Why are there very little Legendaries in X & Y? In comparison the Sinnoh region had about 13 if I'm not mistaken. Why? What are your thoughts on this?

Also, why isn't Diancie in the Legendary Pokemon page for the X & Y games?

Maybe if someone hacked the game's code we'd find information on soon to be revealed Legendaries? IDK.
 
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Gampi

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Crystalline_3 said:
Why are there very little Legendaries in X & Y? In comparison the Sinnoh region had about 13 if I'm not mistaken. Why? What are your thoughts on this?

Also, why isn't Diancie in the Legendary Pokemon page for the X & Y games?

Maybe if someone hacked the game's code we'd find information on soon to be revealed Legendaries? IDK.
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I'm not fussed about the small amount of legends in Gen VI, because it's not really the smallest pool of legends we've had so far. Gen I had only 5.

Also, people have already hacked X&Y and found Volcanion and Hoopa, but not much past their Pokédex entries, height, weight and signature moves have been revealed. As far as I'm aware, Datel has yet to make a code to get them appear in-game.
 
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bushie

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there were too many legends in sinnoh. in my opinion. i was satisfied with the overall number in kalos including the unrealesed yet
 
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Endolise

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Wulava

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Crystalline_3 said:
Why are there very little Legendaries in X & Y? In comparison the Sinnoh region had about 13 if I'm not mistaken. Why? What are your thoughts on this?

Also, why isn't Diancie in the Legendary Pokemon page for the X & Y games?

Maybe if someone hacked the game's code we'd find information on soon to be revealed Legendaries? IDK.
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I think GF realized that some of the legendaries are unnecessary and are just a waste of dex space (most specifically, Manaphione). Also, if I'm not mistaken, the purpose of Mega-evolution is to bring some Pokemon into the same level as Legendaries.

I'm actually okay with just the main mortality trio since they are the most important figures in Kalos' mythology.
Regarding Sinnoh, it had too much legendaries. It would've been fine with just the Creation trio, Lake Trio, and Arceus.

Most of the legends we have are unnecessary. Some are just for gimmicks, and some are just there to follow a trend.
 
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BCVM22

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"Unnecessary" as Legendaries go is the textbook definition of subjective. Aside from the titular Legendaries, what makes any of the rest necessary or unnecessary?
 
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Hexin' Wishes

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BCVM22 said:
"Unnecessary" as Legendaries go is the textbook definition of subjective. Aside from the titular Legendaries, what makes any of the rest necessary or unnecessary?
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Exactly, I'd characterize the Lake Trio as "Unnecessary" before the Lunar duo.
 
Wulava

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BCVM22 said:
"Unnecessary" as Legendaries go is the textbook definition of subjective. Aside from the titular Legendaries, what makes any of the rest necessary or unnecessary?
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I dunno if unnecessary is indeed the correct term. Perhaps "unneeded" or "shouldn't have been made to begin with"? But yes, it is subjective.

I just think that legendaries that actually play an important role in the region's mythology should be on the Dex. Lati@s for example. Movie aside, what is their connection to Hoenn? The games never bothered to explain the legend behind them. Manaphy and Phione, spin-off and movie aside, what is their role in the game?
 
PearlDex

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Wulava said:
I dunno if unnecessary is indeed the correct term. Perhaps "unneeded" or "shouldn't have been made to begin with"?
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I feel like those mean mostly the same thing... I wouldn't mind some of the legendary extras if they were given some context. I love Latios, actually, but I agree that it completely comes out of left field. Besides being a unique type, it contributed nothing to Ruby, Sapphire, or Emerald. Now, if they re-make R/S/E and they give Latios and Latias a bit of story, that changes things. I love when the "event items" unlock some story related to the legend you get to capture. I wish they would use that more often than they do - and make the side-story a bit longer.
 
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Taodragon

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Wulava said:
I dunno if unnecessary is indeed the correct term. Perhaps "unneeded" or "shouldn't have been made to begin with"? But yes, it is subjective.

I just think that legendaries that actually play an important role in the region's mythology should be on the Dex. Lati@s for example. Movie aside, what is their connection to Hoenn? The games never bothered to explain the legend behind them. Manaphy and Phione, spin-off and movie aside, what is their role in the game?
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I can't say I agree with that. Not every legend has to be completely tied to the region it's in, for instance you can have a mythological creature that's not distinctly tied to Greece or Egypt in their respective mythologies but they aren't necessarily irrelevant, just not connected specifically to that region. What matters is their roles in the stories they play a part in, and personally I feel we have many more great examples of that in those like the Regis and the Lunar Duo then we do have negative examples like Phione.

So personally I don't think quantity is necessarily a negative, quality can be maintained despite the number, it's just a matter of the execution regardless of how many you have.
 
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Crystalline_3 said:
Why are there very little Legendaries in X & Y? In comparison the Sinnoh region had about 13 if I'm not mistaken. Why? What are your thoughts on this?

Also, why isn't Diancie in the Legendary Pokemon page for the X & Y games?

Maybe if someone hacked the game's code we'd find information on soon to be revealed Legendaries? IDK.
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You do realize that Kalos had a smaller number of overall pokemon right so it would make sense that we wouldn't have as much legendaries as previous generations.
 
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Endolise

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Crystalline_3 said:
Why are there very little Legendaries in X & Y? In comparison the Sinnoh region had about 13 if I'm not mistaken. Why? What are your thoughts on this?
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Probably because a lot of people complained about the amount of Legendary Pokémon in Gens IV and V, and so Game Freak listened to the criticism.
 
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Hexin' Wishes

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They really should have saved the Swords of Justice for Kalos. I mean The Three Musketeers were French anyways!
 
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Endolise

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Hexin' Wishes said:
They really should have saved the Swords of Justice for Kalos. I mean The Three Musketeers were French anyways!
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Part of me agrees, if only to balance the "scale" of distribution between the two Gens, but then the other part of me likes the "melting pot" theme that they used for Unova's Legendary Pokémon; particularly in regards to how they synced it to the Starters' respective motifs (Snivy/the Swords are French, Tepig/the Dragons are Chinese, and Oshawott/the Kami are Japanese).
 
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Hexin' Wishes

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Endolise said:
Part of me agrees, if only to balance the "scale" of distribution between the two Gens, but then the other part of me likes the "melting pot" theme that they used for Unova's Legendary Pokémon; particularly in regards to how they synced it to the Starters' respective motifs (Snivy/the Swords are French, Tepig/the Dragons are Chinese, and Oshawott/the Kami are Japanese).
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I didn't even realize the starters were biracial. You learn something new everyday!
 
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Endolise said:
Probably because a lot of people complained about the amount of Legendary Pokémon in Gens IV and V, and so Game Freak listened to the criticism.
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What if GameFreak intentionally held back on the number because they thought they wouldn't be able to execute more legendaries properly?

Eh, Taodragon?
 
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