Manga - Not popular in the US!??

[Blueboy66]

Manga is not popular anywhere near where I live. So of course it's popular everywhere else in the US. Just not as much as in Asia.

 

[Neko Godot]

At my school, most of the "goths" do, but I'm seeing some other kids do.

I do, and I am the complete opposite of goth as you can be.

I don't see any goths read manga at my school. And ya, I'm a total opposite of a goth too.

 

[Satoshi]

book [boo k]

–noun
1. a written or printed work of fiction or nonfiction, usually on sheets of paper fastened or bound together within covers.

According to the dictionary, this so called "fellow member" is almost past the borderline of "idiot".

 

[Neko Godot]

According to the dictionary, this so called "fellow member" is almost past the borderline of "idiot".

Well, we ARE talking bout Justin.

Speaking of which, where is that kid? You'd think that he'd want to get into the debate he started.

 

[Sachiko]

You don't need a complex plot to be exciting.

Most manga are not very complex when it comes to storytelling and such, and shouldn't EVER be compared to novels, much less considered more complex.

I shouldn't have said novel, but any good chapter book. Especially kid's chapter books. They are equally interesting as other chapter books I read, if not a little more because they have so many pictures.

 

[PokeMaster Justin]

I agree with those statements, to an extent. Of course manga seems popular on a Pokemon forum- we're all geeks of some kind here! But on the whole, manga isn't that big with the Ignorant Masses.

I'm a bit divided on the "book" classification, but.

*ding* and we have a winner.

 

[Konosuke]

*ding* and we have a winner.

*ding* we have spam!

I believe Manga aren't books. They are comics, even the definition of manga in japan means comic (in general). However, in depth, description, and length, they could be compared to books, depending on what book and manga series you are comparing though.

Around here, though, this is a pretty large population of manga readers, and probably underground ones for all i know.

 

[Blues]

Manga = Graphic Novel

Graphic Novel = Novel mostly with pictures

Novel = Book

It's basic reasoning.

 

[Korobooshi Kojiro]

Anyone amused at how Justin doesn't debate at all? But instead quotes someone else with the dumbest one-liner ever?

 

[Neko Godot]

Anyone amused at how Justin doesn't debate at all? But instead quotes someone else with the dumbest one-liner ever?

I'm amused, but not surprised. In fact, I kind of expected it.

 

[Burning Effigy]

I think manga are popular, and naruto won the quil award

 

[Konosuke]

I think manga are popular, and naruto won the quil award

Sadly, i believe it only won because of the amount of Sales it has. I read Naruto and i love the series dearly (al la fanfiction/fanart/side characters/RP) and it runs the line of shounen well and follows a simple and effective fomula.

I have read, however, better manga that probably deserve that award better than Naruto. Monster, Akira, or any serious works of Osamu Tezuka and other works of Naomi Urasawa would fit well, to me, with the Quill award.

 

[Satoshi]

I believe Manga aren't books. They are comics, even the definition of manga in japan means comic (in general). However, in depth, description, and length, they could be compared to books, depending on what book and manga series you are comparing though.

Is a comic a written or printed work of fiction or nonfiction, usually bound together within covers? Yes. Are comics usually referred to as comic books? Yes.

 

[PokeMaster Justin]

Anyone amused at how Justin doesn't debate at all? But instead quotes someone else with the dumbest one-liner ever?

Because there is nothing TO debate...outside of anime fans manga isn't popular.

What you think is popular =/= what everyone else thinks is popular.

 

[Konosuke]

Is a comic a written or printed work of fiction or nonfiction, usually bound together within covers? Yes. Are comics usually referred to as comic books? Yes.

well, if you think of it THAT way, then yes, Manga ARE books. But, in the novel sense, manga arent books. It all depends on your definition on what a book is or not. Dictionaries cant count in personal opinion.

Because there is nothing TO debate...outside of anime fans manga isn't popular.

What you think is popular =/= what everyone else thinks is popular.

This is true. Its all about personal opinion. I have friends that are anime fans, but cant STAND reading manga or books in general.

This thread is basically unable to be a debate, as it will be people spouting their opinions, based half-assedly on small, small facts.

 

[Korobooshi Kojiro]

No, you Justin said that Manga wasn't popular on ANY LEVEL in the US....

And that it wasn't a book, and that reading it doesn't count as "reading"..

 

[MugenKeiji]

According to the dictionary, this so called "fellow member" is almost past the borderline of "idiot".

That's what happens with a wannabe iconoclast. You tend to spit in more faces for other people's reasoning rather than question and break apart. Your ego hides behind your *** while it does the talking.

The simple fact is that anything printed in a mass of pages qualifies as a book or booklet.

The instruction manual that comes with your game is a book.

A strategy guide is a book

A cookbook is a book even though there's no story in there.

A book about State laws is a book.

The Dictionary is a book

The Bible is a book

Textbooks are books

A martial arts book is a book.

A traveller's guide is a book.

Children's storybooks are books.

Comics, graphic novels, tradepaper backs, manga and tankoubon are sold in BOOKSTORES so they MUST be books.

Manga isn't as complex as a novel, but it can have as much chapters. It's a serial that's long running like a series of novels. Though it's mostly meant to entertain rather than teach (actually that's my feelings on books before TV was made, mostly to entertain rather than teach)

I don't know with the "manga aren't books" BS came from but I can already tell you what you define as a book isn't bound to novels.

Because there is nothing TO debate...outside of anime fans manga isn't popular.

What you think is popular =/= what everyone else thinks is popular.

pop·u·lar (p?p'y?-l?r)
adj.

1. Widely liked or appreciated: a popular resort.

2. Liked by acquaintances; sought after for company: “Beware of over-great pleasure in being popular or even beloved” (Margaret Fuller).

3. Of, representing, or carried on by the people at large: the popular vote.

4. Fit for, adapted to, or reflecting the taste of the people at large: popular entertainment; popular science.

5. Accepted by or prevalent among the people in general: a popular misunderstanding of the issue.

6. Suited to or within the means of ordinary people: popular prices.

7. Originating among the people: popular legend

Popular doesn't mean EVERY FREAKING PEOPLE ON THE FREAKING WORLD LIKES IT.

If thousands of people love it, it's popular. Not mainstream mind you, but it's widely accepted among a group. Majority or not.

Internet memes are popular, but they're also esoteric to non-seasoned users.

Mother is popular in Japan and among certain gamers and most Game Journalists.

Pokemon is popular, but not well accepted among the older crowd nor would the older fans would be taken seriously by their non-fan peers.

Popular knowledge exists in certain celebrities, whether or not they're fans of said celebs. That being said, the existence of manga is acknowledged by outsiders even if slightly. Even comic book artists start to borrow from this style like Adam Warren. Anyone who buys PSM will see his work and that's a popular magazine to PlayStation owners.

Some of the best selling Japanese videogames have designs much like manga or anime. If best selling means it's popular just like how a best selling CD is popular even if it hits only a million people, IT'S POPULAR.

So don't go around saying "Oh, Crayon Shin-chan isn't 50 Cent, therefore it's not popular". On your basis I could say "50 Cent isn't popular outside of hip-hop fans, so it's not popular as you'd think." or "Boondock Saints isn't known outside it's fans, therefore it's not a popular movie."

More than one person IN YOUR GENERATION will know about it. Even if it makes up a small number of the population from where you stand, it's still popular.

Get over it.

 

[Korobooshi Kojiro]

I wonder if Justin thinks only socially inept teens read Manga?

 

[BattleFranky~40]

I wonder if Justin thinks only socially inept teens read Manga?

More than likely.

 

[HK]

You go read Death Note if you don't believe me (it has enough words and depth to have a novel for it, after all).

You're right on the words part, at least.

Especially considering Japan has kids all the way to adults of both genders reading manga, wheareas here it's just kids and teens (male and some female) reading manga most of the time.

You could be considered odd to not read manga at all in Japan (same can't and won't be said about those not watching anime). Yes, really.

Most manga are not very complex when it comes to storytelling and such, and shouldn't EVER be compared to novels, much less considered more complex.

True for currently licensed material, at least. Now then, I wouldn't say the same about stuff that say, Kotonoha or Mangascreener scanlate... but that's another matter.

But, uh, yeah, listen to what this dude said, cuz Death Note isn't the next Crime and Punishment, folks.

Because there is nothing TO debate...outside of anime fans manga isn't popular.

You have a really ignorant preconceived notion of the growing popularity of manga. It really hasn't reached mainstream U.S. yet, per se, but consider that types like Naruto, Fruits Basket, Death Note, Bleach, etc. are cracking into the top fifty in the freakin' best-selling book list, you'd have to be an utter moron to deny its steadily increasing popularity.

What you think is popular =/= what everyone else thinks is popular.

I love the irony here.