March 22nd: SM67 - Pika Pika Sparkling Love! Bevenom Spins Round and Round!!

[Mega Altaria]

Yeah I don't expect Pikachu vs Mimikyu to last for more than a few seconds, before some interruption happens.

But seriously though, I can't believe what I'm reading that just because Pikachu hasn't had a clean victory over Mimikyu so far in this series, that must mean Mimikyu is at par with Pikachu, which is dumb as heck. First of all, all the Pikachu vs Mimikyu encounters have been played for gags, since Mimikyu's hatred of Pikachu boosts its power, and Pikachu is always shocked and surprised to see Mimikyu. Also not to mention, Ash vs TRio has been rare this series, so we rarely get to see them battling. But I'm sure if comes down to a serious battle between Jessie and Ash, and Pikachu is allowed to battle optimally like he would against anyone else, it's bye bye Mimikyu, even with all its stupid hatred. A fully powered Iron Tail to its face will destroy Mimikyu's hatred and send it cowering in fear the next time it meets Pikachu.

Yeah I could see Mimikyu starting to fear Pikachu once it has been properly defeated by Pikachu or even get closer to Pikachu like a usual Mimikyu but I personally don't really get its hatred with Pikachu because Mimikyu will usually try to get closer to other Pokémon.

 

[DatsRight]

I'm really hoping we get at least one solid Pikachu vs Mimikyu match. Each series there's usually at least one or two face-offs where TR put up a really good fight and it isn't negated in some cheap way, Ash is just made to fight it off and prove he can handle a difficult TR. Since Ash is an even more elaborate character in SM it feels like this should be more possible.

Hell Matsui wrote 'Do I Hear A Ralts' which is still considered one of TR's most epic battles (especially throughout their otherwise pitiful AG run).

 

[Satomine Night]

Actually this last summary as well as the trailer seems to be suggesting that Ash won’t see Poipole at first and only Pikachu will and that Pikachu will leave Ash and go follow Poipole so Ash will probably not know about Poipole until he runs into both it and Pikachu while battling TR. the summary states that as Ash is distracted then Pikachu disappears. I think after TR, it will go to the school with him and then meet Lusamine. I mean if they do what you suggested to do then Ash would have to try to catch it after TR battle and I highly doubt that if Lusamine orders Ash to then catch Poipole and he doesn’t catch I doubt that they are just going to not look for it because the next episode has to do with the Pokémon center.

According to the summary posted at the start of this thread, Ash does notice Poipole before it disappears with Pikachu. And the other summaries don't indicate that Ash doesn't notice Poipole at all. So it's safe to assume Ash will know about Poipole, even if he doesn't know what it is until after he reunites with Pikachu.

I just watched the preview again, and it seems the scene with Poipole taking Ash's Z-Ring might take place either at the Aether Foundation or at the Ultra Guardian base in the school's basement. It does not seem to take place in the classroom. But that doesn't necessarily mean Lusamine sees Poipole. There's still a chance she and Wicke only appear when Ash and his friends call them to notify them of Poipole's existence.

 

[Zyar]

Yeah I could see Mimikyu starting to fear Pikachu once it has been properly defeated by Pikachu or even get closer to Pikachu like a usual Mimikyu but I personally don't really get its hatred with Pikachu because Mimikyu will usually try to get closer to other Pokémon.

I actually think its hatred towards Pikachu is really easy to see through, especially after Mimikyu's bonding episode with Jessie; that scene with the big inflattable Pikachu, where Mimikyu almost goes berserk mode upon seeing it and is about to attack it, but then he sees a couple of children hugging the giant Pikachu, saying how much they love Pikachu and Mimikyu looks kind of sad and watches its torn up disguise. I think it was quite significant. Isn't it just jealous of Pikachu? A jealousy that eventually turned into hatred, at least that's what I think the writers were pointing at when coming up with Mimikyu's character, probably to differentiate it from other Mimikyu.

 

[Master Pikachu 11]

According to the summary posted at the start of this thread, Ash does notice Poipole before it disappears with Pikachu. And the other summaries don't indicate that Ash doesn't notice Poipole at all. So it's safe to assume Ash will know about Poipole, even if he doesn't know what it is until after he reunites with Pikachu.

I just watched the preview again, and it seems the scene with Poipole taking Ash's Z-Ring might take place either at the Aether Foundation or at the Ultra Guardian base in the school's basement. It does not seem to take place in the classroom. But that doesn't necessarily mean Lusamine sees Poipole. There's still a chance she and Wicke only appear when Ash and his friends call them to notify them of Poipole's existence.

Well regardless if he briefly sees it at the beginning or not, I just doubt that the interaction with Poipole happens at the beginning of the episode because again if Ash were to talk to Lusamine and Wicke and they both order him and his classmates to capture it so they can send it back. He would have to try to capture it after the battle with TR and since we know that it won’t be sent back do to the opening, I’m having a hard time believing that it will just disappear and then Ash is going to be like ok well I will just have to go find it another time and not go looking for it in the next couple of episodes that isn’t going to happen since it’s an ultra beast and not native to the region so it will either be Ash’s team member or it will be treated like Nebby where he takes care of it and it follows him around but he doesn’t capture it.

 

[Mega Altaria]

I actually think its hatred towards Pikachu is really easy to see through, especially after Mimikyu's bonding episode with Jessie; that scene with the big inflattable Pikachu, where Mimikyu almost goes berserk mode upon seeing it and is about to attack it, but then he sees a couple of children hugging the giant Pikachu, saying how much they love Pikachu and Mimikyu looks kind of sad and watches its torn up disguise. I think it was quite significant. Isn't it just jealous of Pikachu? A jealousy that eventually turned into hatred, at least that's what I think the writers were pointing at when coming up with Mimikyu's character, probably to differentiate it from other Mimikyu.

I mean how the hatred started in the first place but anyway Mimikyu's hatred of Pikachu was obvious. Even the reason for hatred hasn't even been clearly stated so far, I think that it could that Mimikyu took its jealousy of Pikachu to another level, resulting in its extreme hatred of Pikachu.

 

[Leonhart]

Yeah I don't expect Pikachu vs Mimikyu to last for more than a few seconds, before some interruption happens.

That seems like the standard result of most Pikachu versus Mimikkyu battles anyway, and it's one of the reasons why I dislike their rivalry. Small skirmishes just aren't satisfying.

 

[Zoruagible]

Yeah, I'm not getting excited about a Pikachu/Mimikyu fight. It probably won't last long at all, unfortunately. I'm more interested in seeing how Mimikyu will react to a Mimikyu that likes Pikachu showing up whenever they get around to bringing in Acerola.... like the posters teased.
I'm just hoping Poipole joins Ash here, they really need to give him a damn capture already

 

[ShadowForce720]

So I just saw the 2nd preview for this episode it looks like Team Rocket is there when Mimikyu is battling Pikachu and it looks, like Meowth tries to capture Pikachu, Poipole, and Rowlet in a net it doesn't look like Rowlet is in good shape as it seems like it's either poisoned or knocked out, and judging from the look on Rowlet's face you can tell that it's clearly not one of those moments where Rowlet just fell asleep, because when Rowlet falls asleep it tends to have a relaxed expression on it's face where as in this scene towards the end of the 2nd preview it seems like it's expression is showing pain or not feeling well so it might have been poisoned but I'm not sure, although I'm sure there going to get out of this mess somehow probably with something stopping the net, although I'm not quite sure what like maybe Ash showing up then or maybe Poipole does something or something else happens.

 

[Mega Altaria]

Looks like Team Rocket is trying to getting back to its old trope of attempting to capturing Pikachu again and maybe this time I think that the writers will give the girls a chance to battle Team Rocket this time.

 

[DatsRight]

Second preview:

Wow Mimikyu's got Stormtrooper aim there. Points for actually obeying an attack Jessie commanded though.

As for Rowlet, I'm guessing either it's a gag on Poipole's part or Mimikyu took him out.

Looks like Team Rocket is trying to getting back to its old trope of attempting to capturing Pikachu again and maybe this time I think that the writers will give the girls a chance to battle Team Rocket this time.

I get a stronger feeling that Poipole's going to take part in this one. Actually I wouldn't mind if this was a Pokemon-solo heavy episode like the starter trio one earlier on.

 

[Satomine Night]

So I just saw the 2nd preview for this episode it looks like Team Rocket is there when Mimikyu is battling Pikachu and it looks, like Meowth tries to capture Pikachu, Poipole, and Rowlet in a net it doesn't look like Rowlet is in good shape as it seems like it's either poisoned or knocked out, and judging from the look on Rowlet's face you can tell that it's clearly not one of those moments where Rowlet just fell asleep, because when Rowlet falls asleep it tends to have a relaxed expression on it's face where as in this scene towards the end of the 2nd preview it seems like it's expression is showing pain or not feeling well so it might have been poisoned but I'm not sure, although I'm sure there going to get out of this mess somehow probably with something stopping the net, although I'm not quite sure what like maybe Ash showing up then or maybe Poipole does something or something else happens.

It looks to me like Rowlet is poisoned, rather than knocked out. There appears to be a shadow on its face—the kind Pokémon get when they've been poisoned. Perhaps Poipole poisoned it, either accidentally (because Rowlet surprised/scared it) or purposely (if it thought Rowlet was trying to attack it or separate it from Pikachu, for instance). My guess is Ash sent Rowlet out to search for Pikachu, and the poor bird ended up poisoned.

It seems Team Rocket is back to their old schemes of trying to kidnap Pikachu with all sorts of contraptions. And what was with that aim, Mimikyu? I suppose its bloodlust is giving it Stormtrooper marksmanship syndrome.

 

[Mega Altaria]

I get a stronger feeling that Poipole's going to take part in this one. Actually I wouldn't mind if this was a Pokemon-solo heavy episode like the starter trio one earlier on.

Yeah this episode will likely be a Poipole-focused episode. I would personally like the girls to have a go at Team Rocket after not having a battle for so long but yeah I wouldn't mind too much if this time Poipole battles Team Rocket to show its strength and I don't think they will blast off this time and Bewear will almost certainly come to their rescue.

 

[ShadowForce720]

Well if Poipole does battle we might get to find out some of it's moves that it currently has here, so on that note Here is Poipole's Move Pool:

Moves that it would normally learn through level up in the games:
Dragon Pulse
Peck
Growl
Helping Hand
Acid
Fury Attack
Charm
Venom Drench
Nasty Plot
Poison Jab
Toxic
Fell Stinger

Moves that it would normally learn through TM in the games:
Toxic
Venoshock
Hidden Power
Protect
Frustration
Return
Sludge Wave
Sludge Bomb
Façade
Rest
Round
Echoed Voice
Poison Jab
Sleep Talk
Substitute
Confide

Moves that it learns through move tutors:
Covet
Signal Beam
Gunk Shot
Uproar
Dragon Pulse
Iron Tail
Snore
Gastro Acid
Helping Hand
Snatch

 

[Mega Altaria]

With Poipole's moveset, I think that it will most likely learn these moves:

-Charm
-Venom Drench/Acid
-Toxic
-Nasty Plot

I think that these moves are what Poipole will most likely have so that Poipole could showcase its cuteness using Charm, and Venom Drench, Acid and Toxic involves spraying poison so that it show how Poipole uses its Poison type attacks in battle and Nasty Plot might show Poipole's side as a bit of a prankster.

 

[satopi]

Maybe Rowlet ate too many apples?

 

[Pokegirl Fan~]

Maybe Rowlet ate too many apples?

Eating alot and falling asleep soon after can't be good for you

 

[DatsRight]

Yeah this episode will likely be a Poipole-focused episode. I would personally like the girls to have a go at Team Rocket after not having a battle for so long but yeah I wouldn't mind too much if this time Poipole battles Team Rocket to show its strength and I don't think they will blast off this time and Bewear will almost certainly come to their rescue.

Eh, I think the girls need more legitimate battles right now. TR is always an excuse to give the companions 'laser guided karma' curb stomps, which don't really do anything for skill boosts. They spammed it to hell and back with Serena last series (though Clemont wasn't as consistent), and most of the companion-only face-offs this series haven't been great either. Steenee gets as much accomplishment from smacking Meowth as it does with Rowlet.

There tends to be a very minimal amount of villain battles where the heroes actually win by putting up a really good fight, and they're usually reserved for Ash alone.

 

[Mega Altaria]

Eh, I think the girls need more legitimate battles right now. TR is always an excuse to give the companions 'laser guided karma' curb stomps, which don't really do anything for skill boosts. They spammed it to hell and back with Serena last series (though Clemont wasn't as consistent), and most of the companion-only face-offs this series haven't been great either. Steenee gets as much display from smacking Meowth as it does with Rowlet.

There tends to be a very minimal amount of villain battles that aren't either a curb stomp or end on a DEM per series, and they're usually reserved for Ash alone. Hell Mimikyu's vendetta with Pikachu and ONLY Pikachu ensures that.

I didn't say that the girls shouldn't only just battle Team Rocket but should have more proper battles like battles with Ash as well. Although Mallow and Lillie aren't too specialised in battling and Lana just spits the fire at everyone else, it's possible that this time they could encourage or even help Poipole train and develop their battling skills, which they could later put to good use.

 

[DatsRight]

I'd rather just save the TR battles for Pikachu, since Mimikyu is about the only TR Pokemon that can make things interesting right now (besides Wobbuffet who they NEVER use).

The girls just need more involvement in ANYTHING in the series right now. It doesn't even have to be battling. TR is often too much of a cheap fix for this because TR battles usually involve zero effort. The companions really need to use their Pokemon in a way that's meaningful.