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May 4th: SM25 - The Fight Over the Crystal! The Rocket Gang VS The Skull Gang!!!

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TheWanderingMist

Paladin of the Snow Queen
Evolving rocks? That is extremely silly on itself.

It's just...that odd focus on Ash's Electrium-Z in EP19 is what made me think of it. And from there, Ghostium-Z and Darkinium-Z would evolve into the starter's respective Z-Crystals.
 

Mr. Guy

Banned
Evolving rocks? That is extremely silly on itself.


Well, for Pikashunium-Z (or Satopika-Z as it's called in Japanese), it's the only logical reason for it to exist.

And it wouldn't be the first time. Mega Stones are believed in-universe to be Evolutionary Stones irradiated with energy from Xerneas/Yveltal.
 

Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
Oh, so they confirmed what z-stone it is?
Meowth learning Night Slash would be neat.... but I hope Team Rocket end up getting it, solely cause it'd be entirely useless for them at the current time. Leading them to trying and steal Dark types or Pokemon with Dark type moves. Like targeting Gladion for his Umbreon when he shows up.

No reason to drag the twerps into this. Ash shouldn't come in and take it. What would Nanu give out? Incineroar's stone? Getting a different stone than normal from a trial is going to get annoying if it happens multiple times, Electrium is excused at least seeing how Pikachu is his starter and he'd have gotten it at the time they'd want to promote Pikachu's unique moves. Not to mention his lack of Fighting types...
If he got any z-stone trial free, it should be Flying/Psychic/Ice/Bug/Poison..... the types that aren't graced with Trials.
 

TheWanderingMist

Paladin of the Snow Queen
If he got any z-stone trial free, it should be Flying/Psychic/Ice/Bug/Poison..... the types that aren't graced with Trials.

If anything, one of those should replace a standard Trial Z-Crystal. Maybe getting Bug from Lurantis instead of Grass
 

TheWanderingMist

Paladin of the Snow Queen
Nah. He can steal a Buginium-Z from Guzma. Besides, wouldn't Ash need Grassium-Z more than Buginium-Z for Rowlet?

Nah, Rowlet needs Ghostium-Z which will somehow "evolve" into Decidium-Z.

Lurantis isn't a Bug type though, it's just a plant that looks like one.

I know, but it would play off its appearance rather than its actual typing.
 

Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
Which he can get from Acerola's trial, but until then, Rowlet will have to settle for a Z-Crystal that is its own typing.
Well, the idea was if the writers are indeed going with the whole "evolving Z-Crystal" idea, it would make more sense for Ash to get the Ghostium-Z sooner rather than waiting for Acerola's Trial. That would be a very fast evolution otherwise.

However, none of Ash's Pokemon knows a Ghost type move currently, so that would have to happen first. Either Rowlet would have to learn Astonish or Shadow Claw or Litten would have to learn Shadow Claw first.

Maybe Ash just doesn't get any Z-Crystals from any of the other Totems. Hala does mention that it's rare for Totems to give out Z-Crystals. Maybe Gumshoos was the exception, because Tapu Koko told it to give him one, but there's no guarantee the other Tapus will take an interest in Ash. Maybe he'll just get more Z-Crystals from other, unrelated things.
 

Spyro39

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Well, the idea was if the writers are indeed going with the whole "evolving Z-Crystal" idea, it would make more sense for Ash to get the Ghostium-Z sooner rather than waiting for Acerola's Trial. That would be a very fast evolution otherwise.

However, none of Ash's Pokemon knows a Ghost type move currently, so that would have to happen first. Either Rowlet would have to learn Astonish or Shadow Claw or Litten would have to learn Shadow Claw first.

Maybe Ash just doesn't get any Z-Crystals from any of the other Totems. Hala does mention that it's rare for Totems to give out Z-Crystals. Maybe Gumshoos was the exception, because Tapu Koko told it to give him one, but there's no guarantee the other Tapus will take an interest in Ash. Maybe he'll just get more Z-Crystals from other, unrelated things.

It's going to be a long journey down the road for Rowlet and Litten to evolve into Decidueye and Incineroar, respectively, so there's no need to rush getting the starter's signature Z-Crystals by acquiring the Z-Crystals that is the same type as them before the appropriate island trial so that they can "evolve" that quickly.
 
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Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
Never said they had to rush. Just that Acerola's Trial would be a little late.
 
after the giant rock in XYZ, are you really that surprised by the concept? if a rock can threaten kalos as a whole, then rocks evolving doesn't sound too crazy lol.

Well, the LEGENDARY GIANT ROCK YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH completely came out of thin air and was even imported from Hoenn.

I don't think these Z-crystals can evolve. It's kind of tampering too much with the concept.
 

Mrs. Oreo

Banned
To be honest I hope TS will get handled differently than in the games, because there they were just doing nothing other than hiding AF true intentions, but that was really really poorly written making them garbage in my opinion.

Well so far in SM Team Skull has been handled in a way that's somewhat consistent with the games in that they're awkward in the anime as well ha ha, but I suspect that once we see Guzma and Plumeria things could change. I just wish we'd see them debut here cuz it'd make this episode so much better.
 

Rock Captain 99

Following the dreams!!
Mimikyu was using a move... It started listening to jessie??? Ash and his friends were nowhere to be seen in the preview!
 

Frozocrone

Miraculous!
Where is the gang???

Not the main focus of the episode, but they're present since they're in the VA cast

Probably just in school showing off Z-moves which is then used to set off the plot

TR chances at winning may have shot up since SM024 ending was revealed
 

playerking

Sick of dealing with idiots.
Where is the gang???

They might appear for a short time, like in the XYZ episode where Team Flare captured Z2.

Mimikyu was using a move... It started listening to jessie??? Ash and his friends were nowhere to be seen in the preview!

It listened to Jessie in SM005, where it used Shadow Ball and it attacked the Alolan Dugtrio in SM023.
 
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