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May 4th: SM25 - The Fight Over the Crystal! The Rocket Gang VS The Skull Gang!!!
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Everything12
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Knowing Team Rocket and Team Skull can it be anything but comical.
Jangobadass
The Wizard of Kanto
Given the tone for much of the series, I'm going with comical.
Golden_Latias
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I can only see this episode getting somewhat serious if, as I suggested earlier, Plumeria gets involved.
Almighty Zard
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I'm kinda hoping the summary is abit misleading, at least in the part about TR just finding out about Z-moves.
Given the previous episode has Ash's mom appear i'd like for them to interrupt whatever Ash is trying to do, but he nukes them with one of his Z-moves to show them to his mom, the episode ends with them questioning what the heck they got nuked by leading to them spying in this one.
Granted I still don't see them ever permanently getting a Z-crystal, since it goes against what Kiawe said when he confronted Ash about his Z-ring(and I don't think they can live through Inferno Overkill), and I can not honestly see bad guys with Z-moves. Even if they do care for their pokemon they still only look out for themselves in the end.
Besides with people still singing Rocket's praises about their win over Ash when James got his capture, and Bewear a possible combatant, their already threatening enough.
Given the previous episode has Ash's mom appear i'd like for them to interrupt whatever Ash is trying to do, but he nukes them with one of his Z-moves to show them to his mom, the episode ends with them questioning what the heck they got nuked by leading to them spying in this one.
Granted I still don't see them ever permanently getting a Z-crystal, since it goes against what Kiawe said when he confronted Ash about his Z-ring(and I don't think they can live through Inferno Overkill), and I can not honestly see bad guys with Z-moves. Even if they do care for their pokemon they still only look out for themselves in the end.
Besides with people still singing Rocket's praises about their win over Ash when James got his capture, and Bewear a possible combatant, their already threatening enough.
Given SM's style, we'll likely see something comical. I doubt we'd see anything super serious like what we were meant to get with TR vs TP cuz if that was the case here, I'm sure that this episode would've been promoted much more by now.
Regardless of SM's style, Team Skull in general is presented in a very comical fashion in the games. Guzma, Plumeria, and Gladion are the only members treated the least bit seriously.
Leonhart
Imagineer
The Skull-dan seem even more incompetent to me than the Rocket-dan, so at most they'll probably be a minor nuisance to Satoshi and his classmates.
345ash-greninja
Auto-Memories Doll
Nah, Z-moves are too much for TR and I doubt that the writers will even think about giving TR Z-moves. If they get one, given their nature, they will misuse it and then Z-moves will just become a regularity in SM during the everyday encounters with TR. The current belief that SM means 'Spam (Z)Moves' will then very much become true!
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Zoruagible
Lover of underrated characters
No they aren't. Bewear isn't theirs yet.
Team Rocket deserve z-moves, especially as they're always limited to one or two Pokemon each. And they need to evolve and pick up new techniques or they'll get as stale and boring as XY Rocket, the worst treatment of Rocket. TRio aren't 'bad guys' either, they're good people on the wrong path. Ash needs to have somebody with a z-move fighting him.
They don't even have to find one they can use yet, they can find some crystal for a Pokemon type neither of them possess like Flying or Fire leading them to trying to catch/steal Pokemon with that type so they can use it before meeting a wild Minior/Salandit
RedJirachi
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Well in the games Plumeria has Z-Crystal and Guzma's got one but just holds back, so I don't see why Team Rocket can't.
The OG comic villains meet Team Skull? This is going to be a funny episode if they play their cards right
Almighty Zard
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to be fair Plumeria ain't like the rest of Team Skull, yes she does a couple of bad things(like kidnapping Lille in game), but she actually apologizes for what she does and treats the rest of Team skull like siblings, showing that she isn't selfish which as Kiawe explained is a quality needed to use Z-moves.
and Guzma only stocked up on the bugium Z so no one in Alola could be better at using bug types than him.
TR are selfish thieves who care only about themselves in the end, do you really think people like that could be allowed to use Z-moves?
ShadowForce720
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Yes I think they could use Z-moves since they aren't as selfish as your trying to make them sound, sure they do bad things but they do genuinely care about their pokemon and they have done some good things before. Especially if you look at James and sometimes even Meowth where you see clearly intense where they aren't being selfish, so I really don't think you can use the whole arugment that the Team Rocket trio are just selfish thieve that only care about themselves because that's simply not true.
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Almighty Zard
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It isn't just about caring for your pokemon, did you not pay attention to what Kiawe said when he confronted Ash over getting his Z-ring?
Z-moves are more important than people think.
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ShadowForce720
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Yeah, but at the very least I can see James being able to use Z-moves, because it's been shown that James isn't generally selfish and there are even times where he's helped out other characters.
Almighty Zard
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I can agree with that, but no way both of them would get Z-moves, James is more emotional, but Jessie I don't think so.
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