May and her bike

[SUBRICK]

At the beginning of the Hoenn league, didn't Ash destroy May's bike? How come that was hardly mentioned at all during the Hoenn seasons?

 

[Lupin]

The same reason why Mistys bike was hardly metioned.

It was only used as a plot device to get Ash to have a "partner" to travel with.

 

[SUBRICK]

The same reason why Mistys bike was hardly metioned.

It was only used as a plot device to get Ash to have a "partner" to travel with.

Actually, Misty's bike was mentioned frequently.

 

[STJ]

Actually, Misty's bike was mentioned frequently

The main difference here, of course, is that, unlike Misty, who would pester Ash about it, May didn't care that her bike was ruined, afterall she did "ah.. who cares?" After looking at her bike..

 

[Rex Kamex]

Though in the episode after that, she mentioned the bike in order to guilt trip Ash into slowing down and waiting for her to catch up to him as they were walking. Still, the whole May's bike thing wasn't necessary or original, and compared to Misty's bike, it really wasn't that badly damaged. It was severely blackened, but nothing much beyond that.

 

[CyberCubed]

The reason her bike wasn't mentioned after AG2 was because....she didn't care!

Why would they bring up something that the character herself doesn't care about? May getting her bike burnt was a tribute to the first series, nothing else.

 

[Kamex]

May getting her bike burnt was a tribute to the first series, nothing else.

A bit strange though how they decided to make Misty and May's meeting and adventuring with Ash begin similarly in that way. At first I thought it implied more shipping, but I'm not sure about that anymore... well, I guess by making her not care about the bike they were trying to set the idea that her character is different than Misty's, and that she has no secret crush on Ash. Or something.

 

[Mythic Mist]

I honestly thought that was a bit wrong, me being a Misty fan and all. Slapping me in the face with a Misty reference, only to be reminded that we will never see her again.

Well, we will, but still, it just made me upset as a Misty fan. >_>

 

[Torchic23]

The bike was a simple tool used for making Ash and May travel together, that's all. May simply forgot about it because Norman said to do this in the episode, There's No Place Like Hoenn

 

[Alopec]

I always figured the writers just did it for humor. You know, the irony that Ash had accidently ruined yet another girl's bike, especially right after Misty's had been fixed. Poor guy.

 

[octoboy]

That's dissapointingly unoriginal. It's a cheap take off on Ash destroying Misty's bike. I thought that the writers would have thought better than that.

 

[CyberCubed]

That's dissapointingly unoriginal. It's a cheap take off on Ash destroying Misty's bike. I thought that the writers would have thought better than that.

Please learn what a "homage" is. Or a "tribute" or something.

In any case, the reactions of the two girls over their burnt bikes was a nice way to show their differences in personality. It was a good way to differentiate their first experiences with Ash. One got angry with him and called him a "Little loser!" and the other shrugged her shoulders and said, "Ah, who cares?"

Anyone who thinks it was "unoriginal" missed the entire point of the thing in the first place.

 

[S_P]

It's not necessarily a difference in personality. Don't forget that Kasumi's bike was STOLEN while FISHING. You save someone by fishing him out of the river and then he steals your bike. When you see your bike again, it's destroyed. Haruka's case was that she saw the bike accidentally destroyed, but she left it where it was. Both bikes were stolen but Kasumi's was STOLEN.

If anyone rode their bike to get to a water site to fish and gets his/her bike stolen, you wouldn't be happy regardless. The destruction also wasn't known to Kasumi. She didn't know Pikachu had a near-death situation and used a Thunderstorm to clear a horde of Onisuzume. Haruka witnessed Pikachu directly in trouble, and saw how the whole thing went.

Again, Haruka's case was "oh no my bike got destroyed, oh well." Kasumi's was "Darn it Satoshi, I fish you out of the water and you steal my bike and after I found it somewhere in the field it was fried." Kasumi didn't know where her bike was initially! She had to find it (oh and the fact that Satoshi disappeared from her sights until she found him again at the Tokiwa City Pokemon Centre).

Difference in personality, yes but conditions were also different. Anyone who had their bike stolen, then finding it destroyed in the middle of a field where nothing really is, would be rather frustrated (not to mention ending up carrying the bike all the way over to the city). Haruka knew Satoshi's conditions (professor explained it in a nutshell, sort of), but Kasumi didn't. So yeah, indifference to caring? Hm. I think being angry over your bike getting stolen and then found destroyed to be quite reasonable.

Oh and even if Haruka's bike being destroyed seemed unoriginal, if it weren't destroyed she would have her bike to ride back home (or anywhere else for that matter), and wouldn't have extensive walking problems. There wouldn't be a normal situation to join Satoshi. Leave a destroyed bike, sure. Leave a perfectly good conditioned bike that you enjoyed riding all the way over, no.

Of course the writers could have just had Haruka walk to Mishiro Town, but then it's far more practical to ride there (and Haruka riding the bike and then going WHOO! while jumping over a small ramp has a much better entrance appeal. And of course you can crash into a tree after seeing a Ghost by losing control of your bike, whereas walking you can't crash like that at all.)

Having Haruka run would also make little sense, even though it would match the R/S game running ability rather well.

So you sort of have to have the bike there and have it destroyed.

Oh, and Haruka's bike being destroyed seemed like an "opportunity to travel with an 'experienced trainer'". Whereas Kasumi wanted repayment of her bike from an "inexperienced trainer" who didn't even take care of Pikachu well (first impression-wise). Again, there's a large conditional difference, despite them both being Pikachu-emergencies (Kasumi's case was "alone". Haruka's case was "full assistance".)

 

[Rex Kamex]

Please learn what a "homage" is. Or a "tribute" or something.

In any case, the reactions of the two girls over their burnt bikes was a nice way to show their differences in personality. It was a good way to differentiate their first experiences with Ash. One got angry with him and called him a "Little loser!" and the other shrugged her shoulders and said, "Ah, who cares?"

Anyone who thinks it was "unoriginal" missed the entire point of the thing in the first place.

What kind of "tribute" was that? Was the whole bike thing really necessary in order to show Misty and May's different personalities?

Whatever the writers were pulling, it didn't work. If it did, we wouldn't have this thread.

 

[YoshiAngemon]

Yeah, and we should all be thankful that we don't hear any "I'm not leaving you until you pay for MY bike, Ash Ketchum" coming from May.

 

[CyberCubed]

What kind of "tribute" was that? Was the whole bike thing really necessary in order to show Misty and May's different personalities?

Well if you don't like the different personality idea for the girls, is it that wrong to have a reference to the 1st series?

AG was supposed to be a fresh start with a new series, so to have something that directed paralleled the beginning of the first series was pretty interesting. Don't forget that Ho-oh was also used twice, at the beginning of the series and then right before Ash headed to Hoenn.

Whatever the writers were pulling, it didn't work. If it did, we wouldn't have this thread.

Oh, we'd still have this thread I bet. The Pokemon fandom likes to complain about everything. Even if everything made sense and was explained clearly by the writers, you'd STILL have people making threads like this.