Metagross idea

[danburite]

I'm thinking of raising a Metagross, but i'm not too keen on the recommended moves in its Pokemon of the Day entry. http://www.serebii.net/potw/376.shtml

Would Defence Curl/Rollout benefit Metagross in any way? It takes advantage of Meta's good Attack, and I can see it as being useful for defending against Fire Types, but I want your opinions.

 

[The X Factor]

Wrong topic. This needs to go somewhere else.

 

[danburite]

Wrong topic. This needs to go somewhere else.

Is this not "Rate my team"?

 

[snorlax]

lol roll out defence curl is never good lol

 

[aipomkong]

1) defence curl doesn't help against fire types
2) it takes way too long to setup
3) meteor mash is so much better
4) rock slide > rollout
5) defence curl + rollout is probably the worst combo there is

 

[Missingno. Master]

1) defence curl doesn't help against fire types
2) it takes way too long to setup
3) meteor mash is so much better
4) rock slide > rollout
5) defence curl + rollout is probably the worst combo there is

1; He was referring to Rollout.
2; It only takes as long as an Exeggutor takes to set up a Sunnybeam combo.
3; He wasn't saying Meteor Mash shouldn't be in the set.
4; Rollout's accuracy is better than Rock Slide's.
5; That would be YOUR opinion. My opinion is that it might actually be a good combo if used correctly.

 

[danburite]

...
5; That would be YOUR opinion. My opinion is that it might actually be a good combo if used correctly.

See, that's what I thought. After all, the damage increases each turn, (unless it misses)
I'm quite fond of this combo- i've never used it in the 3rd gen though, so I don't know how well it would work on a Metagross. (It was lethal when I used it in Stadium 2! )

I probably would keep Meteor Mash around anyway, but so far it looks like a mixed reaction. It'll take a while to Dittofy a good Beldum, so I 'spose i'll just stick around here a bit longer.

 

[Delta]

1; He was referring to Rollout.
2; It only takes as long as an Exeggutor takes to set up a Sunnybeam combo.
3; He wasn't saying Meteor Mash shouldn't be in the set.
4; Rollout's accuracy is better than Rock Slide's.
5; That would be YOUR opinion. My opinion is that it might actually be a good combo if used correctly.

1st Bold: Sunnybeaming exeguttor sucks if you don't have Groudon support, and even then it's much more useful than DC+Rollout

2nd Bold: Rollout may have better accuracy, but the fact that you're stuck with it for five turns is just asking me to bring Diglett/Wooper and rape that gross. Rock slide isn't even of much use on gross, as it only hits Zapdos/Moltres harder

Defense curl+Rollout is the crapiest of all combos, it's even worse than sunnybeaming and thunderdancing

 

[snorlax]

lol at both of you

lets take a flying type

Salamence sounds fun ok standard salamence

lets say Metagross is Adamant and Max Atk ok...

so

lets say first turn

After a Defence Curl and one roll out it does

40-47% damage

ok

now

Rock Slide does...

First Rock Slide does

65-75%

moral of story

it takes 2 turns to Defence Curl then Roll out

which wont kill sala at all

2 rock slides more than kill it

so

you lose

 

[asianmang]

www.smogon.com/advance/metagross/strategy

 

[danburite]

Rock Slide does...

First Rock Slide does

65-75%

moral of story

it takes 2 turns to Defence Curl then Roll out

which wont kill sala at all

2 rock slides more than kill it

so

you lose

Yes, but Rollout doubles its power each turn. Rock Slide does a steady amount of damage, but its accuracy phails in comparison to Rollout. Should you switch to another Pokemon, so can I.

Or better yet, I can Baton Pass Metagross in after using Mean Look.
Hell, a Toxic beforehand, and you're pretty much a goner.

 

[snorlax]

ok so thats 5 turns to set up

i win dont post

 

[chaos952]

Should you switch to another Pokemon, so can I.

Idiot. You can't switch while using Rollout until you miss.

Not to mention that bulky waters, such as Milotic, Suicune and especially Swampert will just laugh at you even harder. Also, Skarmory will just come in and Roar/Whirlwind you out. Hence the reason why Rock-type moves are pretty much useless on Metagross.

1; He was referring to Rollout.
2; It only takes as long as an Exeggutor takes to set up a Sunnybeam combo.
3; He wasn't saying Meteor Mash shouldn't be in the set.
4; Rollout's accuracy is better than Rock Slide's.
5; That would be YOUR opinion. My opinion is that it might actually be a good combo if used correctly.

2. Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
4. Read my reply to danburite's post.
5. Read my reply to danburite's post. Rollout sucks. Period.

 

[asianmang]

rollout sucks

http://smogon.com/advance/metagross/strategy

 

[The X Factor]

you sir, are a goddamn failed troll.

Metagross gets killed with fire blasts before it can defense curl and roll out.

 

[pikadon92]

Once you use rollout, the user cannot switch out and the oppoment can either switch in physical tanks or KOed it simply.

 

[snorlax]

couldnt touch steelix

 

[snorlax]

48-56% Damage

besides

Someone sent out pokemon

Metagross used Defence Curl

Pokemon used Earthquake

Pokemon used Rollout

Pokemon used Earthquake

everyone used LOL

 

[chaos952]

A 4x resistance to Rock-type attacks says otherwise. Also, what makes you think that you'll reach the 5th turn? lmfao.

Edit: ROFL. A troll is accusing someone else of being a troll. Missingno. Master isn't a troll; he just doesn't know anything about the competitive environment.

 

[snorlax]

Your up late chaos

i like how this kid knows hes a ****ing retard but he lets

not very intelligent things spew rom his brain into the pointless thread