AquaMilotic
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Introduction
Hello Serebii, this is my first RMT here. I have been a Smogoneer and I have a lot of experience and knowledge about UU, OU and Ubers. I will rate a lot of teams here, as long as there are good descriptions. I don't rate teams by PM. This is not bragging, but it is true and I can help you with your teams. I made a RMT on Smogon once. The team has a 52-8 win-loss ratio. I did 60 batles with it. Feel free to copy the team if you want to. It is not a ‘6 OUs thrown together’ team, I put effort in this team. One UU+5 OUs. Definitely not a 'bog standard' run-of-the-mill team.
52:60*100=86,67%
This means I won 86,67% of the battles with this team.
Team at a glance:
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Strategy
The strategy is: Azelf sets up SR, Gyarados, Scizor, Salamence and Milotic wreak as much havoc as possible and Celebi kills what is left. Annoying walls get Tricked by Celebi.
Without further ado, let's look at the team.
The team
The lead
Azelf@Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk, 4 SAtk, 252 Spe
- Stealth Rock
- Explosion
- Taunt
- Psychic
A generic Azelf lead with a changed EV spread. I use the Attack EVs to power up Explosion, I won't use Psychic too often. Stealth Rock is of course handy to ensure some KOs for the team. Taunt is to prevent opponents from setting up Stealth Rock. I also thought about Aerodactyl, but I wanted Explosion, so I choose Azelf over Aerodactyl. Not much more to explain.
Azelf vs. other popular leads.
Aerodactyl: Gamble. If it uses Taunt, I use Psychic. If it uses Stealth Rock, I use Stealth Rock. If it uses Stone Edge, I use Stealth Rock. Very hard desicion.
Metagross: Taunt, whatever it does.
Azelf: Stealth Rock. Always a gamble because of the speed tie. I never push my luck using Taunt, I just try to set up Stealth Rock as fast as possible.
Jirachi: It will either Trick or Iron Head. Just Stealth Rock hoping for Jirachi to have bad luck if it uses Iron Head.
Mamoswine: It will use Ice Shard or Stealth Rock. I just use Stealth Rock, I prefer Stealth Rock(+Explosion if possible) over Azelfs life.
Bronzong: Taunt, then Stealth Rock.
The revenge killer
Celebi@Choice Scarf
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Modest
EVs: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spe
- Trick
- Energy Ball
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power Ice
Celebi has three main moments to be used: If a Pokemon dies, if all sweepers are dead and if unsuspecting walls come in. Trick is for walls like Blissey, Energy Ball is for a strong STAB, but unfortunately resisted by a lot of Pokemon. Earth Power and Hidden Power Ice have very nice coverage and hit quite some Grass resistors. I use a Modest nature to have power needed to kill as much as possible. Hidden Power Ice deals with Dragons and Earth Power with Heatran, for example. With the Choice Scarf, Celebi outspeeds just about everything. Celebi is without a doubt one of the best revenge killers in the game, I know it trough a lot of testing on a lot of teams, with different movesets.
The physical core
Gyarados@Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk, 4 SDef, 252 Spe
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
Gyarados is the single most powerful Pokemon of my team. The EVs and nature give max Speed, Life Orb compensates for the use of a Jolly nature. Waterfall for STAB, Earthquake and Stone Edge have nice type coverage. Even with no defensive EVs, it is still reasonably bulky and can switch in on quite some attacks, also thanks to Intimidate. It also deals reasonably well againt Salamence and opposing Gyarados. It switches in on them, lowering their Attack, it is able to survive most attacks and OHKO them with Stone Edge assuming Stealth Rock is in play. It can set up on Scizor and can come in on most attacks of Heatran. It checks the top 4 most used Pokemon reasonably well.
Scizor@Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP, 252 Atk, 8 SDef
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Brick Break
- X-Scissor
Scizor is one of my bulkier sweepers. It uses Swords Dance and Bullet Punch as main source of damage. X-Scissor is a consistent STAB, it is also its best weapon against bulky waters. Brick Break deals with opposing Steels. Zapdos and Rotom-A are 2HKOed by Bullet Punch after one Swords Dance, and Bullet Punch has a slight chance to OHKO Zapdos after Stealth Rock with one Swords Dance. I am more careful against Rotom-A, because it uses Will-o-wisp, and I don't have a cleric.
The special core
Salamence@Choice Specs
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SAtk, 4 SDef, 252 Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Hydro Pump
You will all call me noob for using SpecsMence because there are more treathening movesets, like DDMence and MixMence, but it has a huge surprise factor. The normal Salamence checks (physical walls) get OHKOed/2HKOed by its special attacks. It has perfect type coverage. SpecsMence OHKOs/2HKOs almost anything not resisting it.The Pokemon that aren't are that are not Uber are: Special defensive Empoleon, Blissey and special defensive Milotic. It is just as powerful, if not more poweful (surprise factor) as in early DP, it is just less used.
Milotic@Choice Specs
Ability: Marvel Scale
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spe
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Dragon Pulse
- Hidden Power Electric
Milotic is often seen as an annoying wall annoying the hell out of you with Light Screen, Hypnosis, Toxic and even Mirror Coat, recovering often and using Surf and a coverage move to have a very good wall, being very hard to kill, this is great, but because of this, people overlook Milotics very good offensive capabilities. It has a very nice 100 SAtk and an above average 81 base Speed. Hydro Pump gets a lot of OHKOs. Milotic covers every Pokemon barring Shedinja, who is very uncommon. It hits some counters of its usual defensive sets for a lot of damage, like Zapdos, who can be OHKOed with Hydro Pump and the help of Stealth Rock. This sweeper is ready for revenge on every person who doesn't use it. That explains the title of the RMT.
Team building process
I wanted to use SpecsTic in my team and some Pokemon who get around its counters as a team, starting with Milotic is obvious.
I needed a good Physical sweeper, to complement Milotics great Special sweeping capabilities. Gyarados is one of the most treathening Pokemon in the game and I wanted to use it, so Gyarados was my second choice.
I wanted a fast lead, able to set up Stealth Rock and use Taunt while also packing a punch. Azelf and Aerodactyl were options, Azelfs Explosion was the sole reason to choose it over Aerodactyl.
I wanted a bulkier sweeper with some defensive capabilities, not Choiced. Scizor is bulky and powerful. It is slow, but has great priority (Technician+Life Orb+STAB+130 base Atk+maybe Swords Dance) to make up for its poor Speed. Scizor adds both bulk and power to my team.
I needed a second Special sweeper, I didn’t want to leave everything to Milotic. SpecsMence and SpecsLatias were the two Pokemon I considered. I choose Salamence merely because of the surprise factor.
I needed a revenge killer with good Special attack. Celebi was my first idea, with nice natural bulk, good Special Attack and Speed. It also has a surprise factor. Celebi has a decent offensive movepool.
Things I might change myself
- Azelf>Moving the Atk to SAtk.
- Celebi>Using a Timid nature and using a moveset of Psychic+Energy Ball+Hidden Power Fire, this also has nice coverage, but loses to Heatran. It is an option. Leaf Storm is also an option.
- Gyarados>Using a BulkyGyara set to add some more bulk to my team.
- Scizor>Using Roost on the set and moving Atk EVs to Def or SDef to add bulk.
- Salamence>Using a Timid nature or using a Choice Scarf or even both. Maybe Flamethrower over Fire Blast. I am also thinking about making it a MixMence.
- Milotic>Using a (Special) defensive set. However, I won’t, because the reason I made this team is SpecsTic. Also using a Life Orb and the current set might be an option, but I don’t want to lose too much power, so I won’t. Surf over Hydro Pump is also viable, but Hydro Pump is the main attraction. I won’t use both, I normally prefer Surf on Milotic, but on offensive sets, Hydro Pump is preferred.
Things I want
- A spinner to help Gyarados and Salamence.
- A WishPassing Vaporeon without replacing Milotic. I don’t know what to replace then. This is of course for Gyarados and Salamence
- Bulk, a bulky sweeper.
- A Mixed sweeper/wallbreaker.
- A safer Zapdos counter, my main way to deal with it is Celebi, maybe Salamence if it switches is safely and outspeeds.
What to keep in mind when rating this team
- Do not pretend I am a newbie, I am a serious knowledged competitive battler.
- Serious suggestions only. No gimmicky/novelty sets.
- I won’t replace Milotic, I might change the set if it is good for the team and I like the set for my team. Do not suggest I should replace Milotic, I won’t.
Threat list
How my team deals with the top 5 most overused Pokemon (Smogon Shoddy statistics July 2009).
Scizor
Gyarados sets up on it and walls it, Milotic can come in and OHKO with Hydro Pump, unless Scizor carries a lot of HP and SDef EVs, which isn’t likely, this is OU, not Ubers. Salamence can’t come in on it, but Scizor won’t come in on Salamence safely.
Salamence
There is really no good counter to this beast. My main check is Gyarados, who can beat most Physical variants. Celebi can revenge kill Specsed and Mixed ones (and the odd BandMence) with Hidden Power Ice. Mixed variants can be dealt with with Gyarados after Intimidate when Salamence lost power because of using Draco Meteor. My own Salamence can come in on a predicted Earthquake. Scizor can come in on Outrage and Bullet Punch, but it should stay clear of Fire moves.
Gyarados
My Milotic with Hidden Power Electric and my Gyarados with Stone Edge, thanks to Intimidate. Again, there is no good counter to this beast.
Heatran
Not a big problem. Celebi revenge kills with Earth Power, Gyarados and Milotic come in and OHKO with STAB+item boost Waterfall/Hydro Pump. It can’t come in on Salamence with Hydro Pump.
Metagross
Most of them are leads, getting Taunted by Azelf. Gyarados and Milotic can come in on Meteor Mash (and Earthquake in Gyarados’ case), hitting it with powerful moves. Celebi can use Earth Power. Salamence hits it with Fire Blast. Earth Power from Celebi hits it hard.
Please rate my team and only rate if you have knowledge about competitive DPP OU. I did my best making this team (testing, thinking it up and so on), so the raters should do their best too. I put a lot of effort in this team
Hello Serebii, this is my first RMT here. I have been a Smogoneer and I have a lot of experience and knowledge about UU, OU and Ubers. I will rate a lot of teams here, as long as there are good descriptions. I don't rate teams by PM. This is not bragging, but it is true and I can help you with your teams. I made a RMT on Smogon once. The team has a 52-8 win-loss ratio. I did 60 batles with it. Feel free to copy the team if you want to. It is not a ‘6 OUs thrown together’ team, I put effort in this team. One UU+5 OUs. Definitely not a 'bog standard' run-of-the-mill team.
52:60*100=86,67%
This means I won 86,67% of the battles with this team.
Team at a glance:
Strategy
The strategy is: Azelf sets up SR, Gyarados, Scizor, Salamence and Milotic wreak as much havoc as possible and Celebi kills what is left. Annoying walls get Tricked by Celebi.
Without further ado, let's look at the team.
The team
The lead
Azelf@Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk, 4 SAtk, 252 Spe
- Stealth Rock
- Explosion
- Taunt
- Psychic
A generic Azelf lead with a changed EV spread. I use the Attack EVs to power up Explosion, I won't use Psychic too often. Stealth Rock is of course handy to ensure some KOs for the team. Taunt is to prevent opponents from setting up Stealth Rock. I also thought about Aerodactyl, but I wanted Explosion, so I choose Azelf over Aerodactyl. Not much more to explain.
Azelf vs. other popular leads.
Aerodactyl: Gamble. If it uses Taunt, I use Psychic. If it uses Stealth Rock, I use Stealth Rock. If it uses Stone Edge, I use Stealth Rock. Very hard desicion.
Metagross: Taunt, whatever it does.
Azelf: Stealth Rock. Always a gamble because of the speed tie. I never push my luck using Taunt, I just try to set up Stealth Rock as fast as possible.
Jirachi: It will either Trick or Iron Head. Just Stealth Rock hoping for Jirachi to have bad luck if it uses Iron Head.
Mamoswine: It will use Ice Shard or Stealth Rock. I just use Stealth Rock, I prefer Stealth Rock(+Explosion if possible) over Azelfs life.
Bronzong: Taunt, then Stealth Rock.
The revenge killer
Celebi@Choice Scarf
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Modest
EVs: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spe
- Trick
- Energy Ball
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power Ice
Celebi has three main moments to be used: If a Pokemon dies, if all sweepers are dead and if unsuspecting walls come in. Trick is for walls like Blissey, Energy Ball is for a strong STAB, but unfortunately resisted by a lot of Pokemon. Earth Power and Hidden Power Ice have very nice coverage and hit quite some Grass resistors. I use a Modest nature to have power needed to kill as much as possible. Hidden Power Ice deals with Dragons and Earth Power with Heatran, for example. With the Choice Scarf, Celebi outspeeds just about everything. Celebi is without a doubt one of the best revenge killers in the game, I know it trough a lot of testing on a lot of teams, with different movesets.
The physical core
Gyarados@Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk, 4 SDef, 252 Spe
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
Gyarados is the single most powerful Pokemon of my team. The EVs and nature give max Speed, Life Orb compensates for the use of a Jolly nature. Waterfall for STAB, Earthquake and Stone Edge have nice type coverage. Even with no defensive EVs, it is still reasonably bulky and can switch in on quite some attacks, also thanks to Intimidate. It also deals reasonably well againt Salamence and opposing Gyarados. It switches in on them, lowering their Attack, it is able to survive most attacks and OHKO them with Stone Edge assuming Stealth Rock is in play. It can set up on Scizor and can come in on most attacks of Heatran. It checks the top 4 most used Pokemon reasonably well.
Scizor@Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP, 252 Atk, 8 SDef
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Brick Break
- X-Scissor
Scizor is one of my bulkier sweepers. It uses Swords Dance and Bullet Punch as main source of damage. X-Scissor is a consistent STAB, it is also its best weapon against bulky waters. Brick Break deals with opposing Steels. Zapdos and Rotom-A are 2HKOed by Bullet Punch after one Swords Dance, and Bullet Punch has a slight chance to OHKO Zapdos after Stealth Rock with one Swords Dance. I am more careful against Rotom-A, because it uses Will-o-wisp, and I don't have a cleric.
The special core
Salamence@Choice Specs
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SAtk, 4 SDef, 252 Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Hydro Pump
You will all call me noob for using SpecsMence because there are more treathening movesets, like DDMence and MixMence, but it has a huge surprise factor. The normal Salamence checks (physical walls) get OHKOed/2HKOed by its special attacks. It has perfect type coverage. SpecsMence OHKOs/2HKOs almost anything not resisting it.The Pokemon that aren't are that are not Uber are: Special defensive Empoleon, Blissey and special defensive Milotic. It is just as powerful, if not more poweful (surprise factor) as in early DP, it is just less used.
Milotic@Choice Specs
Ability: Marvel Scale
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spe
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Dragon Pulse
- Hidden Power Electric
Milotic is often seen as an annoying wall annoying the hell out of you with Light Screen, Hypnosis, Toxic and even Mirror Coat, recovering often and using Surf and a coverage move to have a very good wall, being very hard to kill, this is great, but because of this, people overlook Milotics very good offensive capabilities. It has a very nice 100 SAtk and an above average 81 base Speed. Hydro Pump gets a lot of OHKOs. Milotic covers every Pokemon barring Shedinja, who is very uncommon. It hits some counters of its usual defensive sets for a lot of damage, like Zapdos, who can be OHKOed with Hydro Pump and the help of Stealth Rock. This sweeper is ready for revenge on every person who doesn't use it. That explains the title of the RMT.
Team building process
I wanted to use SpecsTic in my team and some Pokemon who get around its counters as a team, starting with Milotic is obvious.
I needed a good Physical sweeper, to complement Milotics great Special sweeping capabilities. Gyarados is one of the most treathening Pokemon in the game and I wanted to use it, so Gyarados was my second choice.
I wanted a fast lead, able to set up Stealth Rock and use Taunt while also packing a punch. Azelf and Aerodactyl were options, Azelfs Explosion was the sole reason to choose it over Aerodactyl.
I wanted a bulkier sweeper with some defensive capabilities, not Choiced. Scizor is bulky and powerful. It is slow, but has great priority (Technician+Life Orb+STAB+130 base Atk+maybe Swords Dance) to make up for its poor Speed. Scizor adds both bulk and power to my team.
I needed a second Special sweeper, I didn’t want to leave everything to Milotic. SpecsMence and SpecsLatias were the two Pokemon I considered. I choose Salamence merely because of the surprise factor.
I needed a revenge killer with good Special attack. Celebi was my first idea, with nice natural bulk, good Special Attack and Speed. It also has a surprise factor. Celebi has a decent offensive movepool.
Things I might change myself
- Azelf>Moving the Atk to SAtk.
- Celebi>Using a Timid nature and using a moveset of Psychic+Energy Ball+Hidden Power Fire, this also has nice coverage, but loses to Heatran. It is an option. Leaf Storm is also an option.
- Gyarados>Using a BulkyGyara set to add some more bulk to my team.
- Scizor>Using Roost on the set and moving Atk EVs to Def or SDef to add bulk.
- Salamence>Using a Timid nature or using a Choice Scarf or even both. Maybe Flamethrower over Fire Blast. I am also thinking about making it a MixMence.
- Milotic>Using a (Special) defensive set. However, I won’t, because the reason I made this team is SpecsTic. Also using a Life Orb and the current set might be an option, but I don’t want to lose too much power, so I won’t. Surf over Hydro Pump is also viable, but Hydro Pump is the main attraction. I won’t use both, I normally prefer Surf on Milotic, but on offensive sets, Hydro Pump is preferred.
Things I want
- A spinner to help Gyarados and Salamence.
- A WishPassing Vaporeon without replacing Milotic. I don’t know what to replace then. This is of course for Gyarados and Salamence
- Bulk, a bulky sweeper.
- A Mixed sweeper/wallbreaker.
- A safer Zapdos counter, my main way to deal with it is Celebi, maybe Salamence if it switches is safely and outspeeds.
What to keep in mind when rating this team
- Do not pretend I am a newbie, I am a serious knowledged competitive battler.
- Serious suggestions only. No gimmicky/novelty sets.
- I won’t replace Milotic, I might change the set if it is good for the team and I like the set for my team. Do not suggest I should replace Milotic, I won’t.
Threat list
How my team deals with the top 5 most overused Pokemon (Smogon Shoddy statistics July 2009).
Scizor
Gyarados sets up on it and walls it, Milotic can come in and OHKO with Hydro Pump, unless Scizor carries a lot of HP and SDef EVs, which isn’t likely, this is OU, not Ubers. Salamence can’t come in on it, but Scizor won’t come in on Salamence safely.
Salamence
There is really no good counter to this beast. My main check is Gyarados, who can beat most Physical variants. Celebi can revenge kill Specsed and Mixed ones (and the odd BandMence) with Hidden Power Ice. Mixed variants can be dealt with with Gyarados after Intimidate when Salamence lost power because of using Draco Meteor. My own Salamence can come in on a predicted Earthquake. Scizor can come in on Outrage and Bullet Punch, but it should stay clear of Fire moves.
Gyarados
My Milotic with Hidden Power Electric and my Gyarados with Stone Edge, thanks to Intimidate. Again, there is no good counter to this beast.
Heatran
Not a big problem. Celebi revenge kills with Earth Power, Gyarados and Milotic come in and OHKO with STAB+item boost Waterfall/Hydro Pump. It can’t come in on Salamence with Hydro Pump.
Metagross
Most of them are leads, getting Taunted by Azelf. Gyarados and Milotic can come in on Meteor Mash (and Earthquake in Gyarados’ case), hitting it with powerful moves. Celebi can use Earth Power. Salamence hits it with Fire Blast. Earth Power from Celebi hits it hard.
Please rate my team and only rate if you have knowledge about competitive DPP OU. I did my best making this team (testing, thinking it up and so on), so the raters should do their best too. I put a lot of effort in this team
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