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Mission: Defeat Your Rival! (765)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Black & White - Adventures in Unova' started by Serebii, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    It was the best scene of the episode imo. But the rest of the episode was horried to be honest. I mean the fact that the Queen B's Emboar lost to Cameron's Riolu just showed how much DEM takes place in these types of tournaments. It's just really sad to see such a great character be taken down in an instant like that.
     
  2. 1rkhachatryan

    1rkhachatryan Call me Robert guys

    LOL whatever, the point remains.
     
  3. Vipsoccermaster

    Vipsoccermaster Well-Known Member

    Fine episode. Ash was lucky enough to get through the battle with Trip. And I guess it's nice to see Trip on the good side now. The battle between Bianca and Cameron was alright.
     
  4. Ash&Pikachu-Fan

    Ash&Pikachu-Fan Pika-Speed

    Ooh, I really like this episode! Its also a good way to see a rivalry finish! So this episode continues on from the last.

    Anyway, Ash vs Trip was awesome! For sure Ash is going to win but they really kept it super suspenseful, with Pikachu losing to all of Serperior attacks. Its nice after the rival's battles, went to see Ash's. Ooh, I got to say I really like Ash's idea of Pikachu's Electro Iron Tail combo clashing with Dragon Tail! Its so cool! :O

    Haha, the sauna scene is funny but I kind of felt bad for Oshawott. So Bianca vs Cameron was good, I like Cameron's idea for the first battle to use Samurott to shake Escavalier's armor! Haha, Emboar using attract on Samurott is funny too! Wow, Cameron's Riolu is actually pretty good at battling but too bad Bianca lost... :/

    So its good this episode left at a break, after all those battles. So this episode is good! I'm looking forward to next episode!
     
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  5. Orton155

    Orton155 Pokemon Enthusiast

    So we pick up from where we left off and the Pikachu battle didn't disappoint in my opinion. Even though it was quite obvious that Ash was going to win, I was totally convinced that they were going to break the mould for a while as I couldn't see a way back but I'm glad to see a return of Ash's combo moves, it reminded me of the Volt Tackle-Iron Tail back at the Sinnoh league. I know people are disappointed the way the battle panned out but it reminded me just how strong and resilient Pikachu is but I slightly agree that I would have preferred more of a tussle between Pikachu and Serperior.

    Inbetween, we had a very humourous scene concerning Oshawott, Riolu, Saunas and Pikachu.

    We continue to the Main event Round 1 and its Bianca vs Cameron. I thought this battle was ok too, and I didn't expect Bianca to use attract to counter Samurott but overall I thought it was a great battle.

    On to the next one! (Excited)
     
  6. WaterDragon trainer

    WaterDragon trainer Freak Like Me

    This was a pretty good episode. I liked how Trip started to respect Ash after his loss which was something I didn't really get from Paul. Their battle went very well.
     
  7. Dephender

    Dephender Gizakawayusu Staff Member Moderator

    It was always Fury Attack, Twineedle was just an error in Serebii's summary.
     
  8. Joltik-Kid

    Joltik-Kid Same thing, day in;day out ಠ_ಠ

    So even though Bianca said she trained for the league, she still never taught her Escavalier a Bug/Steel type move? GENIUS!!!
     
  9. LizardonX

    LizardonX Banned

    She was too busy teaching emboar attract.
     
  10. Joltik-Kid

    Joltik-Kid Same thing, day in;day out ಠ_ಠ

    Minccino must have been it's teacher XD

    That's flawed logic there though because how can you explain any of Ash's Pokemon tanking hits? Ash clearly has stated his strategies rely completely on what Trip did with Serperior, Speed with Power as an added bonus. Ash revolves all his tactics around Pikachu's abilities, the biggest glass cannon and tanker this show offers. The only time Ash has ever induced an actual form of defense was the counter shield, which worked perfectly with his style because it was still offensive in the end. So explain to me, why is it that Pikachu, which has no defensive training to speak of in Unova (or despite the CS, none in the shows existence), can tank blow after blow from Serperior, but Serperior, which you claim also has no defensive training, faints so easily from a resisted combo attack? The answer is you can't other then bad writing, you can't assume that Serperior had lackluster defense based off one defeat to a Champion's Pokemon who had it's attack power raised thanks to Sap Sipper. Also, of coarse Trip was gonna try to avoid damage at all cost in that tournament, Serperior was at a disadvantage in every single battle (3 Fire types and 1 Bug type) till he faced Alder (which was a different form of disadvantage)
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2013
  11. RVD_fan

    RVD_fan Well-Known Member

    For his story with Alder and his journey to decide what kind of trainer he wants to be, you felt like Trip deserved a better fate.
     
  12. Ash&Pikachu-Fan

    Ash&Pikachu-Fan Pika-Speed

    Well, Iron Defense is a steel type move just not for attacking but more of defense I guess.

    Not surprising really, didn't Marlon a water type specialist and gym leader not even use any water type moves against Cameron in his gym battle with him? XD
     
  13. LizardonX

    LizardonX Banned

    I feel bad for giving a one word answer to such a huge paragraph but.

    Plot.
     
  14. Joltik-Kid

    Joltik-Kid Same thing, day in;day out ಠ_ಠ

    I guess so, but Water moves weren't the best option to uses against both of Cameron's Pokemon. Then again, apparently using Bullet Seed and Psybeam against Ferrothorn was viable, so I really don't know.

    That or as I said, bad writing XD
     
  15. jammiedodger

    jammiedodger Active Member

    Um...



    5th episode.


    I really didn't care for the resulting battle between Pikachu and Serperior; I feel that in trying to go a different route by making Ash battle his main rival first for a change, the writing team messed up by making the resulting battle rather poor. The whole thing just felt a little unbelievable, which is a shame.

    I don't know if they were trying to make up for justifying Paul being a git in Sinnoh, or what. Trip was an interesting enough rival who deserved a better send-off than this.

    There were also some misses in Bianca's battle, but at least it was more satisfying as a whole.
     
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  16. Battra

    Battra Well-Known Member

    Welp that battle was lackluster, nice to see the writer's still coming up with deus ex machina's to get Pikachu and Ash out corners in which they'd actually lose, cause heaven forbid we actually have a season were Ash washes out first round. Oh and the idiot savant once again get writer's luck because the production staff just fawns over him.
     
  17. squrtle

    squrtle Dance with the Enemy

    Ash VS Trip was essentially a remake of Pikachu VS Onix from Showdown In Pewter City.
    The writers can't fool anypony, they remade the battle just with Pikachu dying more. I did nearly cry seeing Pikachu all purple like that... I could go on and on and on about how wrong it was that Pikachu was being god-damned choked to death, but I won't.
    I loved the episode, but with the over-emphasis of tournaments in this series, it just felt like another tournament...
    6/10
     
  18. moneylesswario

    moneylesswario Shudo's Powerhouses

    This was awful, bad enough Trip went out so early, but then he goes out in the most anti-climactic manner possible. No Static activation, nothing, just 1hko after Serperior almost beat it. Also, "OPEN YOUR EYES!" What for? So it can see its demise? Seriously, what was the point of it having to open its eyes?

    ~mlfan05
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2013
  19. squrtle

    squrtle Dance with the Enemy

    The leagues are getting worse and worse I reckon.
    Indigo was great, I loved Richie, he was like another Ash, but different. It was wonderful.
    Johto was incredible, Ash VS Gary five years in the making, I actually think this was the best league so far. Plus Blaziken and Kecleon. Wow.
    Hoenn was fun, I loved Tyson and Morrison, two of my favourite characters in the entire show.
    Sinnoh was alright... Darkrai and Latios was a bit much, they just wanted Ash to get car-parked so they could resolve the Paul thing. I actually think Paul was up there with Gary.
    Unova is HORRIBLE. So many lovable rivals and so much potential. I won't spoil it for anyone who only knows what happens by the dub, but everyone I know was unhappy with the turn-out.
    Good news is even though Virgil never had Sylveon, there's an Eevee episode coming up that I hope he appears in with Sylveon.
     
  20. the1stpkmnfan

    the1stpkmnfan Your Big Buff Bro

    No need to say anymore; the Unova League started off lackluster, and it doesn't seem like it'll have the chance to get any better. What bugs me now is that Ash VS was at the very last part of League Episode 1, and ended in the early part of League Episode 2. Which sucks. Can't even count this for a full length episode; nearly just about half of one episode.
     

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