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You pretty much summed everything up for me. Awesome analysis, and I do look forward to possible cameos. Others don't think it's gonna happen, but I doubt the writers would just write off a character forever, but she appeared in Ash's thoughts in the last BW, so the writers haven't forgotten about her......just her AG outfit that is.
 

OfCorsola

Brock and Misty!
Yeah,it's good she appeared a few times in BW. And I'm glad they forgot her AG outfit, I didn't really like it on her..maybe they didn't like it on her either lol. A lot of people tells me misty will never appear again. I still have faith and she deserves to come back, they seriously can't completely abandon a classic character forever..
 

Pokegirl Fan~

Liko>>>>>Ash
I'd like to see Misty meet Dawn or Serena. Dawn because of the fishing lure scene back in DP and Serena because I'd love to see a shipping rivalry between the 2. I'd like to see it be handled like the Piplup and Oshawott rivalry was handled in BW lol.
 

OfCorsola

Brock and Misty!
I'd like to see Misty meet Dawn or Serena. Dawn because of the fishing lure scene back in DP and Serena because I'd love to see a shipping rivalry between the 2. I'd like to see it be handled like the Piplup and Oshawott rivalry was handled in BW lol.
I would think if Misty and Serena ever met, their friend ship would turn out like Misty and Melody; they'll be friends at the end. I really want Misty to meet Serena though! And Bonnie would really love Misty too. It be interesting.
 

Pokegirl Fan~

Liko>>>>>Ash
I would think if Misty and Serena ever met, their friend ship would turn out like Misty and Melody; they'll be friends at the end. I really want Misty to meet Serena though! And Bonnie would really love Misty too. It be interesting.
Bonnie meeting Misty would be adorable! I can see all the cute moments they can have with each other lol. Maybe Bonnie can help find Misty a husband like Ash xD
 

OfCorsola

Brock and Misty!
Bonnie meeting Misty would be adorable! I can see all the cute moments they can have with each other lol. Maybe Bonnie can help find Misty a husband like Ash xD

I could imagine Bonnie and Misty meeting each other. It would be quite interesting. They need to bring her back!
 

pokemon fan 132

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Hi everyone, i had rough streak and lot of work in real life lately not leaving me as much free time to be more active, but i want to thank you all for keeping this place alive, cheerful and active.

About whole question of Misty prospect of ever coming back in pokemon series again, as long there are peopole which support Misty character. Care about her, spread support and appreciation through talks, fanarts, stories and demand for her return than yes ill say chances that eventually people love and support find way to writers ears is there.

Chance may not be big, but as more people care and like some character increases opportunity for writers to gain insight in what audience wants, how they feel about current series formula and what proven to be popular and successful before.

Igniting within staff which works for pokemon anime desire to invest more in those like Misty which proven to posess required appeal and charisma to hook more people into show, increase ratings, sales because obviously regained interest in anime can very likely lead to interest in new games Nintenpo comes up with as well. As result making people respect and appreciate writers work all that more spreading love and positive criticism through word of mouth to their acquintances and friends and so on, thus effectively creating chain message which as time wents on reaches more and more potential customers. Increasing franchise popularity.

Its no secret how whole pokemon franchide is lately trying to reach toward oldr audience and large amount of fans which left show and franchise during original series and after Johto ended viewing disband of original trio, but most importantly Misty departure as horrible and reckless mistake undermining series credibility, charm and identity those three produced becoming like synonim for series back in day.

This can be noticed in dub company for pokemon TPCI using proven and popular slogans from 4kids era such as "Gotta Catch em All", reusing lyrics from pokerap, using original music from pokemon theme in XY trailers etc.

Or throwbacks to gen 1 through new games like Snorlax blocking road,presence of Kanto starters and whole message of XY games being about bonding and friendship paying attention a lot more toward previous generations and older pokemon than it was case before.

Followed by Charizard rejoining Ash through whole Decolora giving rich flashback of his young days , pokemon Origins which were mainly created for older fans to try to attract them back into franchise,
Or all those throwbacks to Muk, Butterfree or Primeape, ending which was fanservice on steroids including all important ex main companions, current ones and rivals which mattered something in Best Wishes series.

Giving slight ray of hope how producers and those in charge will realize how path toward stable, continuity based series filled with exciting twists to storyline and consistent following which builds on itself making it authentic and understandable doesn't lies in sweeping away past, roots on which show was built on and characters which helped build structure of tale you wished to tell leaving impact on it.


But in keeping ties to past, those which helped move things forward like Misty and expand on their own dreams, desires and various sides of personality giving better sense of world building. Anime which provides insight in past events and impacts which molded current protagonists like Ash and show history. Making it feel like you have story which is going somewhere, how journey strong chemistry and friendship between characters, their dreams and all hard work they invested in accomplishing their aims was worth it, paying of in end.

Along with lifting up character interactions and show atmosphere. Something Misty is definitely capable of producing with her strong and independent character always bringing lot of identity, sarcasm, flare and energy in cast thanks to various antics, temperament outbursts. caring side and lively passion for various interests and dreams she pursued.

Misty Japanese voice actor Mayumi IIzuka doesn't represent problem either because she clearly would like to see her return voicing character again. As evidenced through narration of Misty showing desire to see Ash again when appearing as guest in pokemon Team Rocket radio show, expressing disappointment and sadness last year in regard to release of pokemon Origins over Misty future and her own engagement in pokemon series explaining why she asked people not to forget Misty. Not liking direction in which things are unfolding out. Only being commendable on her part revealing great quality she has as voice actor being passionate, caring and attavhed to character she voiced for years knowing how to capture Misty flare, emotion, sarcasm and confidence in organic, faithful to character way.

Mayumi Iizuka is also constantly posting pictures and attending pokemon related things(most recent thing she got involved was hosting some show discussing pokemon with gamefereak and pokegames director Junichi Masuda).

Another mitigating circumstance which puts Misty in somewhat favorable position was abrupt way under which Misty left pokemon series leaving her career of becoming water master, various fears and unresolved issues which followed character, desire to explore and learn as much as she can about water pokemon and world unfinished and unexplored.

Followed with chronicles which while gave Misty some great growth still left main plots which formed character at standstill hanging in air wide open(since she never changed her dreams taking over gym out of necessity and sisters incompetence expressing desire to travel again) leaving future and direction under which story will go for her uncleared.

Giving writers liberty to take Misty character in any direction and do sequel at any point with no coinstraints . Given how many things about her future plans, water master dream, admiration she holds for E4 and Lorelei gives easy excuse to take her forward and do continuation of story in vain of advancing her own dreams going on bigger, more demanding tasks.

Following footsteps of many other gym leaders which left their post to advance their dreams wanting to become something more building on skills and gaining more experience through travels, tournaments with high competition and various unorthodox strategies they met on their quests allowing to evolve and go on higher position as trainers.

Wallace, Koga, Cilan, Brock etc are couple examples. Candice too since she promised her friend Zoey how she will leave gym some day and become champion indicating how she will go on journey.

Going in correlation with game canon actually too since Misty counterpart in Gold, Silver expressed desire to leave gym and travel meeting stronger trainers and improving herself as trainer which judging by viewing Lorelei as idol implies wanting to become something more than leader., Which happened when leaving gym to enter World Cup in way stating how she plants to improve and defeat strong trainers.

So guys while it may not mean much, i hope and would like to believe how Misty iconic status, huge popularity and positive impact she left on pokemon series initial success helping to spread its success globally wont remain forgotten. With writers eventually paying respect and acknowledge existence of wonderful character also known as "tomboyish mermaid" bringing her back, have her play some relevant role in series again and acknowledge character existence.

Because at end of the day hope is the only thing which is left for Misty fans, walking together toward brighter and more amicable future. Whenever that day will hopefully happen. :)
 
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OfCorsola

Brock and Misty!
Bring her back? We can all hope but...

Remember after the mastermind or mirage pokemon movie (misty's last physical appearance) the writer says that she would reappear for more appearances? She hasn't at all..so I have no idea what he meant by that.
Misty was such an interesting character, one of my favorites and I miss her so much.
 
Well, he did say she'd appear, but I don't know if he meant in the flesh though. Her cameo appearance was the lure that was shown in D/P and she appeared twice in B/W, one in a flashback and another one in Ash's thoughts. Still hoping for that in the flesh appearance though.
 

OfCorsola

Brock and Misty!
Well, he did say she'd appear, but I don't know if he meant in the flesh though. Her cameo appearance was the lure that was shown in D/P and she appeared twice in B/W, one in a flashback and another one in Ash's thoughts. Still hoping for that in the flesh appearance though.

I thought he said she'd return for contests and make more cameos. It's unfair how she's treated like this. She's one of the first characters who's been there since day one. Any character like that doesn't deserve to be neglected..
 
I thought he said she'd return for contests and make more cameos. It's unfair how she's treated like this. She's one of the first characters who's been there since day one. Any character like that doesn't deserve to be neglected..

Yeah, that's what I thought as well. I guess they changed their mind. :( It really sucks because I was expecting an in the flesh cameo.
 

OfCorsola

Brock and Misty!
Yeah, that's what I thought as well. I guess they changed their mind. :( It really sucks because I was expecting an in the flesh cameo.
I wonder what made them change their minds? I want to know is it cause they're lazy or they feel like there is no need to bring back Misty? Either way I'm pretty eager to know. I wish he'd come for another Q&A session. Would be pretty interesting to hear the new set of questions people would ask him.
 
I wonder what made them change their minds? I want to know is it cause they're lazy or they feel like there is no need to bring back Misty? Either way I'm pretty eager to know. I wish he'd come for another Q&A session. Would be pretty interesting to hear the new set of questions people would ask him.

If I remember correctly, that was an old director. He said she'd never be a main character anymore, but she'd have cameo appearances. It's a good thing that she's had one every region since she left. But another Q&A would be great.
 

OfCorsola

Brock and Misty!
If I remember correctly, that was an old director. He said she'd never be a main character anymore, but she'd have cameo appearances. It's a good thing that she's had one every region since she left. But another Q&A would be great.
I was really upset when she didn't make a cameo in DP. I thought she'd show up. I lost hope in BW but got happy she got flashbacks.
 
I was really upset when she didn't make a cameo in DP. I thought she'd show up. I lost hope in BW but got happy she got flashbacks.

From what I read, the lure that Ash shown Dawn was her cameo. I guess they didn't know how to show her, so they decided to do a fishing episode which her lure would be needed. If I can find where I read it, I'll definitely post it.
 

OfCorsola

Brock and Misty!
From what I read, the lure that Ash shown Dawn was her cameo. I guess they didn't know how to show her, so they decided to do a fishing episode which her lure would be needed. If I can find where I read it, I'll definitely post it.
Well that's a very inconvenient way to reappear Misty. So Dawn knows who Misty is. I wonder if Misty knows who she is? Or Iris, Clemont, Bonnie, Serena, and Paul.
 

Pokegirl Fan~

Liko>>>>>Ash
Well that's a very inconvenient way to reappear Misty. So Dawn knows who Misty is. I wonder if Misty knows who she is? Or Iris, Clemont, Bonnie, Serena, and Paul.

Probably not, unless Ash talks to Misty off screen and mentions them. I could also see maybe May telling Misty about Dawn, don't know how that would happen though.
 

OfCorsola

Brock and Misty!
Probably not, unless Ash talks to Misty off screen and mentions them. I could also see maybe May telling Misty about Dawn, don't know how that would happen though.
I know May has visited Misty in Cerulean (deny it i'll still think so haha) I bet she's told Misty about seeing Ash again. And how he's friends with Dawn. I could also see Dawn telling May about Iris and May telling Misty that too. Do you think Misty still contacts Brock since they're in the same region? I mean her and Tracey seem to have a healthy friendship. They still help each other out (as said in BW) so that's really cool.
 

pokemon fan 132

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Regarding interview you guys are mentioning and statement of Misty continuing to make cameo appearances in future, i believe this is what your looking for:

From interview with Masamitsu Hidaka(worked as director for pokemon series up to Battle Frontier, afterwards stepped out and continued to work as storyboard artist) on Pokebeach from 2008:

What about the main cast on the show? Since he had talked about how they like to “switch them up,” I explained to him that many fans want Ash, Misty, and Brock reunited again together. But, he reaffirmed what he said in the previous interview and said it wasn’t going to happen. I asked him what he meant in the previous interview about Pokemon Contests, and he said he just meant that characters like May have come back for a few episodes in Pokemon Contests, so Misty could come back too. He said, however, that Contests don’t appear to be her thing, so if she were to come back, it would probably be to join Ash in a battle or to just meet them somewhere.

Followed with his previous response:
If she is to ever return to the show, it will only be in a minor role as something like as a rival for a tournament, similar to May returning for a few Diamond and Pearl episodes.

In other words he noted as possibility that Misty has in flesh appearance again like May did coming either for tournament, to join Ash in battle or just meet him and companions somewhere on road. But that was stated back in 2008 and now 6 years later nothing came out iof it.

Bear in mind though how mr. Hidaka by time he gave interview was no longer in contact with writers like he used to be due to not being involved in big decisions as storyboard artist anymore. Thus not being familiar with their plans nor upcoming decisions compared to past. Fact how he didn't even knew about pokemon Platinum coming out around that time not knowing how to respond to fan inquiry, while everyone on online pokesites were already long familiarized with it only further reinforces this conjecture.

Leading to reasonable conclusion how things mr. Hidaka mentioned in interview shouldn't be taken as 100% true. Which can work both in Misty favor(in light of despite what he said Misty still having chance that writers change their mind and bring her for at least semi permanent role again like it was case with Charizard).

But this can also work against Misty unfortunately with his words not guaranteeing that Misty will even receive appearance for few episodes.

Otherwise how to explain writers ignoring to use her for past 8 years?

Its not like writers didn't had several opportunities, very plausible ones to bring Misty back at very least for few episodes to enrich on show atmosphere through her vibrant, enjoyable personality making people happy, provide update, gain more growth and help influence one of show plots which were running at that time.

Coming to catch rare and new water pokemon learning new things(like they did with Clair in Unova)was one of ways to bring Misty back in Sinnoh or Unova,. There is whole World tournament from BW2 games which was one of best and most prominennt ways to reintroduce Misty again since she could both help advertize it due to being present in new games, was more than qualified to enter as gym leader and trainer. Along with this being perfect way to push her story forward since entering tournaments with strong competition and making name for yourself is one of things crucial in order to become high class water expert, water pokemon master.

In as much giving her opportunity to battle trainers of higher calliber, meet champions and specialist she would never had chance to see before and sharp skills through intense battles greatly advancing her water master dream. Providing more experience and challenge than its case at gym rotting currently with her story and dreams going nowhere, aka stagnation.

They could have Misty play role with Dawn getting Togekiss since she posessed Togepi, Togetic having most knowledge in its raising than any other main character. Have her appear when Ash returned at Pallet two times in a row(after DP and now after BW), but once again writers completely left her out.

I cannot even stress out enough how in new XY series there exists several very valid reasons to bring Misty back. At least for arc or something. There is fact of Kalos introducing E4 member of water types Siebald from who Misty could learn a lot about bonding with water pokemon on closer level increasing her skills and how to overcome their weakness. E4 are best mono trainers in world, Misty dream is to become best water trainer in world idolizing Lorelei wanting to become strong like her. Since E4 are labeled as type masters in game and Misty wants to become water master its not hard to find connection and why she would be extatic to meet him.

There is fact of Misty posessing Gyarados which can mega evolve giving her marketing value to both help promote games and be involved in relevant plot which in Kalos revolves around mega evolutions and Team Flare which wants to control therm for wrong purposes. Making massive step forward in her knowledge as water trainer by achieving close level of understanding unlocking its true, full strength play. Which once again is expected from someone who strives to become master.

She can return for water based tournament like Whirl Cup was showcasing her new skills and how much she improved, advance her dreams, test out her strength possibly against Ash like in good old days reviving that competitive fire and rivalry between them which was always present in wanting to prove each other to be better. Along with capturing new pokemon and guess what promoting fairy type through Azurill line.

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Its still hard to believe that Misty's last in flesh return was in 2005(2006 if you count Mastermind special, but im referring to regular main anime). And writers left her out for each and every opportunity like she is nobody and never existed.

Thats definitely sad and discouraging, to think that once such important character who is original female heroine for pokemon series, part of most iconic and recognizable cast in world(original trio) which paved way for future generations to come and allowed that pokemon anime becomes hit, incredibly popular worldwide is discarded and abandoned like last trash. Like Misty never existed or played important role in pokemon series, like she never left any influence on Ash, other characters and pokemon storyline.

Like she doesn't have her own dreams, goals of becoming master of water types, live up to idol Lorelei, learn and catch as many water pokenon she can realizing how to bring their true strength on surface becoming like one when battling together, insecurities and flaws which deserve to be explored and tied up instead of leaving everything so abruptly cut and unfinished like all that hard work, learning on mistakes and growth was for nothing never leading her nowhere.
Bugphobia, parents which abandoned her and sisters, unsolved disputes with sisters or lack of resolution in what way and how she can come closer toward her ultimate aims with whole future and what she intends to do with her life etc. come to mind on first hand.

Like she doesn't have many people which like this character and support wanting that at least from time to time her existence is acknowledged, her story and progress receive update taking her somewhere, to maintain contact with Ash, Brock and other friends making it seem like their close bond and friendship wasn't forgotten about and pointless. Along with enjoying in Misty outspoken and feisty attitude mixed with caring, assertive side, which brought humor and tension within group being known for charismatic and lively interaction she brought.

Misty was truly unique and highly rich in personality character, she was symbol of hard work and determination, didn't let others to put her down knowing how to stand up for herself with hotheaded, sarcastic and full of passionate, curious spirit while maintaining her feminine, romantic side . Making her completete, highly relatable and with lot of depth character not deserving to end up forgotten like this.

Ill just say this: Pokemon show is dependant on his viewers, and if writers continue to ignore what makes people disappointed and frustrated, what is reason behind continuous drop in popularity with new generations of kids simply failing to fill up places of older fan which are giving up with show, than the ratings for this anime would continue to drop until they reach the point of no return,which would result in this show being cancelled.

It is obvious that pokemon directors and writers are using wrong approach of burying past, disrespecting history and pretending like it never happened, and whole strategy lately of referencing generation 1 massively through new games and show(Charizard return in main cast for BW,reuse of 4kids slogans, return of Kanto starters as mentioned before makes it obvious) is attempt to retrieve some of older fandom back.

Yet writers and producers of this show dont seem to understand how reusing Misty and making her play relevant role in anime again is something which huge number of people all around the world would like to see happen??
Guaranteeing massive hype, increase in people inzerest and excitement bringing fresh and unpredictable twist to pokemon series making it more substantial, of stronger quality thanks to paying respect to continuity and past . Along with promoting diversity and strength in characterization, anime plots and sense of world building making it closer and more interactive.

Hopefully new director(i believe he is called Tetsuo Yajima) and writers themselves will recognize appeal and potential Misty as character has, loyal and huge following and how her presence could bring benefit to storyline advancing it forward while gaining herself something from it, increase entertainment value along with attracting more people back bringing boost to ratings.
 
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