The anime really gave the wrong impression of aerial ace. From what they showed with swellow and staravia, it really looks like only a a move bird pokemon can use, but according to the games a whole lot more non-flying pokemon can use it. For instance, Charizard being able to use it makes sense, but how do Charmander and Charmeleon do it? The anime hasn't explained.
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Moves Pokemon SHOULDN'T be Able to Learn
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Serpentine
Pokemon Breeder
It just happened that the two birds could learn Aerial Ace and were fast.
Flying types use it differently than non-flying types. I know there's canon examples of moves looking different depending on what's using it, but for AA let's say Charmeleon could jump super high (or rebound off a hit) and put all the speed from falling into a nasty slice from those claws. I like how the anime lets you be creative with moves, which is why I think I like Dawn the best. After she was done whining she was fun to watch!!
Aerial Ace is based on a legendary sword technique called the "Turning Swallow Cut" or "Swallow Return." It was called that because it was invented after watching the way swallow's tails moved. The Japanese name of the Pokemon move is even called Swallow Return. (This is why it's Flying-type and probably not a coincidence that they made the regional bird a swallow in the generation they introduced Aerial Ace.) It involves a rapid slash downward and then upward on the same line; no flight is required. (The RSE animation even makes this motion.) So Dugtrio is not required to leave the ground to perform this move. Also, the technique was known for being quick and precise, which is why the Pokemon move has perfect accuracy.
And so, lots of Pokemon with claws can learn it, but also most birds because of its origin.
As for wobbanut's question, the anime has shown non-birds use the move several times. Here are descriptions of what it looked like, although it sounds like they just made into a ramming move or a move where you disappear and then strike. Maybe the writers didn't get the reference.
And so, lots of Pokemon with claws can learn it, but also most birds because of its origin.
As for wobbanut's question, the anime has shown non-birds use the move several times. Here are descriptions of what it looked like, although it sounds like they just made into a ramming move or a move where you disappear and then strike. Maybe the writers didn't get the reference.
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Aegon
Well-Known Member
Are you certain? I don't recall it doing so. The Gen IV animation definitely did, but I'm not so sure about Gen III.
Oh you're right, it was Gen 4. My mistake.
But nevertheless, it still shows that Aerial Ace is based on the Swallow Cut.
RealRaymon
Good series at last!
That is nothing compared to Primeape using Iron Tail
Jonah the Slaking
Couch-bound Warrior
Game Freak logic:
Shroomish can learn Focus Punch
Torchic can learn Dynamicpunch
Wooper can learn Ice Punch
Ampharos can't learn Tail Glow
WHAT IS THIS.
Shroomish can learn Focus Punch
Torchic can learn Dynamicpunch
Wooper can learn Ice Punch
Ampharos can't learn Tail Glow
WHAT IS THIS.
RealRaymon
Good series at last!
You forgot to mention Snorlax using Selfdestruct
Because their evolutions have arms, and they had to make some way to give them those moves.
Although I agree with you about Ampharos. All the 'dex entries mention the glowing tail. Maybe they thought it'd be too OP.
Mister_SGG
Well-Known Member
Well that was just with the Winner's Path Snorlax. Everything on that route was supposed to be kind of retarded.
RealRaymon
Good series at last!
Did you watch the episode when Ash caught Snorlax? There he uses surf
Oh yeah I remember now, good point
Although that's really not the way the anime portrayed it. Non-fliers like Arcanine and Leafeon simply tackled the opponent with their bodies. Once.
Serpentine
Pokemon Breeder
I know this doesn't really relate to how Pokemon can't use certain moves, but how can you use Grass Knot in places without grass? I mean, I can somewhat understand how Pokemon that aren't grass types can use grass knot, they like tie grass real quick and then the Pokemon trips, but say you're inside a building or in a cave or even on the ocean, somebody's probably going to say Seaweed, but explain the others.
Serpentine
Pokemon Breeder
I know this doesn't really relate to how Pokemon can't use certain moves, but how can you use Grass Knot in places without grass? I mean, I can somewhat understand how Pokemon that aren't grass types can use grass knot, they like tie grass real quick and then the Pokemon trips, but say you're inside a building or in a cave or even on the ocean, somebody's probably going to say Seaweed, but explain the others.
DiaRubyTandem
The Fastest Comeback
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