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Moves Pokemon SHOULDN'T be Able to Learn

Discussion in 'Poképolls' started by Inchtall, Oct 26, 2011.

  1. wobbanut

    wobbanut Team Awesome

    The anime really gave the wrong impression of aerial ace. From what they showed with swellow and staravia, it really looks like only a a move bird pokemon can use, but according to the games a whole lot more non-flying pokemon can use it. For instance, Charizard being able to use it makes sense, but how do Charmander and Charmeleon do it? The anime hasn't explained.
     
  2. Serpentine

    Serpentine Pokemon Breeder

    It just happened that the two birds could learn Aerial Ace and were fast.
     
  3. lisalynn

    lisalynn Active Member

    Flying types use it differently than non-flying types. I know there's canon examples of moves looking different depending on what's using it, but for AA let's say Charmeleon could jump super high (or rebound off a hit) and put all the speed from falling into a nasty slice from those claws. I like how the anime lets you be creative with moves, which is why I think I like Dawn the best. After she was done whining she was fun to watch!!
     
  4. Hejiru

    Hejiru Rev up those fryers

    Aerial Ace is based on a legendary sword technique called the "Turning Swallow Cut" or "Swallow Return." It was called that because it was invented after watching the way swallow's tails moved. The Japanese name of the Pokemon move is even called Swallow Return. (This is why it's Flying-type and probably not a coincidence that they made the regional bird a swallow in the generation they introduced Aerial Ace.) It involves a rapid slash downward and then upward on the same line; no flight is required. (The RSE animation even makes this motion.) So Dugtrio is not required to leave the ground to perform this move. Also, the technique was known for being quick and precise, which is why the Pokemon move has perfect accuracy.
    And so, lots of Pokemon with claws can learn it, but also most birds because of its origin.

    As for wobbanut's question, the anime has shown non-birds use the move several times. Here are descriptions of what it looked like, although it sounds like they just made into a ramming move or a move where you disappear and then strike. Maybe the writers didn't get the reference.
     
    Last edited: May 18, 2012
  5. Aegon

    Aegon Well-Known Member

    Are you certain? I don't recall it doing so. The Gen IV animation definitely did, but I'm not so sure about Gen III.
     
  6. Hejiru

    Hejiru Rev up those fryers

    Oh you're right, it was Gen 4. My mistake.

    But nevertheless, it still shows that Aerial Ace is based on the Swallow Cut.
     
  7. Tonguetyd

    Tonguetyd Well-Known Member

    Guillotine's description says:
    "A vicious,tearing attack with big pincers."
    Then how come Haxorus can learn the move despite not posessing pincers?
     
  8. RealRaymon

    RealRaymon Good series at last!

    That is nothing compared to Primeape using Iron Tail
     
  9. Jonah the Slaking

    Jonah the Slaking Couch-bound Warrior

    Game Freak logic:

    Shroomish can learn Focus Punch
    Torchic can learn Dynamicpunch
    Wooper can learn Ice Punch
    Ampharos can't learn Tail Glow

    WHAT IS THIS.
     
  10. RealRaymon

    RealRaymon Good series at last!

    You forgot to mention Snorlax using Selfdestruct
     
  11. Hejiru

    Hejiru Rev up those fryers

    Because their evolutions have arms, and they had to make some way to give them those moves.

    Although I agree with you about Ampharos. All the 'dex entries mention the glowing tail. Maybe they thought it'd be too OP.
     
  12. Tonguetyd

    Tonguetyd Well-Known Member

    How can Primeape learn scratch n' aerial ace?It doesn't even have claws.
     
  13. JoeyEs

    JoeyEs Well-Known Member

    How can Snorlax learn Surf? He's a big heffalump lmao
     
  14. Mister_SGG

    Mister_SGG Well-Known Member

    Well that was just with the Winner's Path Snorlax. Everything on that route was supposed to be kind of retarded.
     
  15. RealRaymon

    RealRaymon Good series at last!

    Did you watch the episode when Ash caught Snorlax? There he uses surf
     
  16. JoeyEs

    JoeyEs Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah I remember now, good point
     
  17. Pesky_Bug

    Pesky_Bug Infinite Inferno

    Although that's really not the way the anime portrayed it. Non-fliers like Arcanine and Leafeon simply tackled the opponent with their bodies. Once.
     
  18. Serpentine

    Serpentine Pokemon Breeder

    I know this doesn't really relate to how Pokemon can't use certain moves, but how can you use Grass Knot in places without grass? I mean, I can somewhat understand how Pokemon that aren't grass types can use grass knot, they like tie grass real quick and then the Pokemon trips, but say you're inside a building or in a cave or even on the ocean, somebody's probably going to say Seaweed, but explain the others.
     
  19. Serpentine

    Serpentine Pokemon Breeder

    I know this doesn't really relate to how Pokemon can't use certain moves, but how can you use Grass Knot in places without grass? I mean, I can somewhat understand how Pokemon that aren't grass types can use grass knot, they like tie grass real quick and then the Pokemon trips, but say you're inside a building or in a cave or even on the ocean, somebody's probably going to say Seaweed, but explain the others.
     
  20. DiaRubyTandem

    DiaRubyTandem The Fastest Comeback

    is my sig ok?
     

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