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Moves that Pokémon can't learn but should learn?

Discussion in 'General Pokémon Discussion' started by ((JAWS)), Feb 2, 2018.

  1. ((JAWS))

    ((JAWS)) Sinnoh Trainer

    Moves that Pokémon can't learn but should learn?

    I'll start, first off

    Venusaur should learn Spore. Would make him nasty!
     
  2. Captain Jigglypuff

    Captain Jigglypuff Leader of Jigglypuff

    I’ve always thought Inkay and Malamar should have access to Octazooka.
     
  3. raichu27

    raichu27 Well-Known Member

    Heatran: Scald (Hot water comes from some hot pipes)
    Aurorus: Power Gem (It's got a gem around the top of its nose, plus its special attack is higher than its physical attack.)
    Heliolisk: Solarbeam and Sunny Day (It's a solar Pokemon.)
    Tentacool/Tentacruel: Power Gem
    Yanmega: Fly (Jessie was seen riding on one)
    Lycanroc: Play Rough
    Glaceon: Surf
    Eelektross: Sludge Bomb
    Mew: Draco Meteor (Event only; Jirachi had that move as an event for 4th generation)
    Magearna: Power Gem (It's got a gem or some kind of crystal on its eyes)
    Slurpuff: Lick
    Espeon: Power Gem
    Golduck: Power Gem
    Rhydon: Aerial Ace
    Empoleon: Drill Run
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2018
  4. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Well-Known Member

    Steelix should get Iron Defence
    Aurorus should get Aurora Veil
    Salazzle should get Sunny Day (seriously, it's the only fire type apart from Salandit, Oricorio, and Rotom-Heat that doesn't get it)
    Mew should get Sketch (it's banned in rated battles anyway, it can get a big buff, as its stats aren't amazing compared to the likes of Mega Rayquaza and Primal Groudon)
    Celebi should get some kind of new Time Travel move, maybe one that rolls over all turn counts (like on weather, reflect, and so on) for a few turns (same reasoning as for Mew)
     
  5. GarchompTheAssassin

    GarchompTheAssassin Water Supremacist

    Garchomp - Dragon Dance
    Blastoise, Samurott, Torterra - Shell Smash
    Greninja - Flamethrower (apparently it resembles a fire breathing frog from some folk tale)
    Aurorus - Power Gem, Aurora Veil (smh @ it not already having them)
    Luxray - Poison Fang, Play Rough
    Primarina - Boomburst
     
  6. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Super Sweet Sylveon

    I think that Tapu Bulu needs to learn Play Rough. It just needs the physical Fairy STAB because the other Fairy moves that it could learn are Nature's Madness, which does damage equal to half the opponent's remaining HP, and Dazzling Gleam, which doesn't work too well with its base Special Attack stat.
     
  7. raichu27

    raichu27 Well-Known Member

    I feel that way about Tapu Koko as well. It also has higher physical attack status.
     
  8. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Super Sweet Sylveon

    Although I do agree too because its physical movepool is so shallow despite its higher base Attack stat, so I feel like that it should learn a wider variety of physical moves e.g. Ice Punch so that it could better hit Garchomp, a common Dragon type in the competitive scene for 4x super effective damage as opposed to 2x super effective damage with Fairy attacks (3x with STAB multiper).
     
  9. Kirby Dragons

    Kirby Dragons Well-Known Member

    Why does no one ever mention Gallade not learning Sacred Sword?
     
  10. Shine

    Shine Psyched Up Staff Member Moderator

    A long list I currently have

    Aurorus: Power Gem, Aurora Veil
    Dedenne, Brionne, Primarina: Draining Kiss
    Dedenne: Dazzling Gleam
    Primarina: Wish, Calm Mind, Recover, Boomburst
    Crabominable: Ice Shard, Mach Punch, Bullet Punch
    Zangoose: Cut
    Ampharos: Tail Glow, Dazzling Gleam, Flash, Dragon Breath
    Kyurem: Icicle Crash, Ice Shard, Earthquake
    Cresselia: Surf
    Diancie: Play Rough, Sacred Sword, Secret Sword, Flash Cannon, Energy Ball, Charge Beam
    Meloetta: Play Rough, Sacred Sword, Secret Sword, Flash Cannon, Moonblast
    Kirlia: Quiver Dance, Moonblast, Sacred Sword, Secret Sword, Flash Cannon
    Gardevoir, Roserade, Flygon, Lumineon: Quiver Dance
    Flygon: Bug Buzz, Boomburst (currently only Vibrava can learn these two moves)
    Togedemaru: Smart Strike
    Venusaur: Poison Jab
    Pidgeot: Extreme Speed, Hyper Voice, Focus Blast
    Umbreon: Payback (via level up), Toxic (also via level-up), Rock Smash, Trick Room, Moonblast
    Espeon: Solar Beam
    Happiny: Strength, Seismic Toss (currently only its evolutions gets Seismic Toss)
    Forretress: Iron Head, Leech Life
    Groudon: Heat Crash
    Serperior: Superpower/Close Combat, Earthquake, Earth Power, Draco Meteor
    Jumpluff: Gust/Air Cutter, Pollen Puff
    Cottonee, Whimsicott: Pollen Puff
    Ledian, Salamence: Air Cutter
    Salamence: Air Slash
    Tyrantrum: Outrage, Psychic Fangs
    Braixen, Delphox: Thunderbolt, Energy Ball, Dragon Breath, Focus Blast, Icy Wind, Water Pulse
    Shiftry: Forest's Curse, Leaf Blade (currently only Nuzleaf can learn Leaf Blade)
    Weezing: Gunk Shot
    Gastly, Haunter, Gengar: Smog, Poison Gas, Sludge
    Gengar: Sludge Wave, Nasty Plot
    Tapu Koko, Tapu Bulu: Play Rough, Ancient Power, Aura Sphere, Earth Power
    Tapu Lele, Tapu Fini: Ancient Power, Aura Sphere, Earth Power
    Clefable: Play Rough, Ancient Power
    Wigglytuff: Moonblast, Hyper Voice
    Togekiss: Moonblast, Energy Ball
    Lilligant: Focus Blast, Dazzling Gleam, Moonblast, Earth Power, Shadow Ball, Weather Ball
    Scrafty: Sucker Punch, Beat Up, Head Smash
    Eelektrik, Eelektross: Thunder Fang, Leech Life
    Empoleon: Slash, Night Slash
    Goodra: Recover, Surf
    Ferrothorn: Spiky Shield
    Garbodor: Poison Jab, Rock Slide
    Gible: Bite
    Garchomp: Dragon Dance
    Yanmega, Scyther, Garchomp: Fly
    Yanmega: Dragon Pulse
    Phantump, Trevenant: Shadow Sneak, Razor Leaf
    Trevenant: Shadow Punch
    Oricorio: Flamethrower, Flame Charge, Lava Plume, Shadow Ball, Shadow Sneak, Ominous Wind, Thunderbolt, Charge Beam, Thunder Punch, Psyshock, Psycho Cut, Psychic
    Cosmog, Cosmoem: Tackle, Psywave, Confusion, Stored Power, Hidden Power, Rest
    Cosmog: Cosmic Power
    Pyukumuku: Aqua Jet, Mach Punch, Water Gun, Double Slap, Pound
    Helioptile, Heliolisk: Sunny Day, Solarbeam, Flash Cannon, Dazzling Gleam
    Swirlix, Slurpuff: Lick
    Lunatone: Ancient Power
    Solrock: Zen Headbutt (via level up), Flame Wheel
    Kecleon, Mienshao: Power Whip
    Drowzee, Hypno: Dream Eater (via level up)
    Onix, Steelix: Head Smash, Dragon Rush, Coil, Iron Defense
    Kingler, Seismitoad: Waterfall
    Seismitoad: Liquidation
    Typhlosion: Earth Power, Hyper Voice, Shadow Ball
    Luxray: Play Rough, Flame Charge
    Dusknoir: Phantom Force
    Poliwrath: Drain Punch, Mach Punch, Superpower
    Hydreigon: Coil, Dragon Hammer, Dragon Dance, Quiver Dance
    Spearow, Fearow: Wing Attack
    Growlithe: Growl, Lick
    Rhyhorn: Tackle
    Hawlucha: Brave Bird
    Meowth, Persian: Covet (through level-up)
    Murkrow, Honchkrow: Thief (through level-up)
    Spinda: Superpower, Overheat
    Milotic: Dazzling Gleam, Moonblast
    Magikarp: Water Pulse (at like, level 50 or 90)
    Gyarados: Aerial Ace
    Machop, Machoke, Machamp: Mach Punch
    Blastoise: Shell Smash
    Kabutops: Earthquake, Shell Smash
    Xerneas: Earth Power
    Zygarde: Dragon Rush
    Zekrom, Entei: Earthquake
    Zapdos: Air Slash, Hurricane
    Keldeo: Ice Beam, Icicle Crash, Energy Ball, Flash Cannon, Rock Slide
    Tornadus: Ominous Wind, Silver Wind
    Thundurus: Hurricane, Air Slash, Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Dragon Claw
    Landorus: Hurricane, Air Slash, Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Wild Charge, Hyper Voice
    Anorith, Armaldo: Surf, Dive
    Yamask, Cofagrigus: Hypnosis, Yawn (why the hell they get Dream Eater but not Hypnosis or any other way to put opponent to sleep)
    Sneasel, Weavile: Razor Wind
    Lycanroc Midnight: Play Rough, Ancient Power, Head Smash, Acrobatics, Night Slash, Power Trip, Dark Pulse, Earthquake, Ice Fang, Wild Charge, Sandstorm
    Lycanroc Midday & Dusk: Play Rough, Extremespeed, Agility, Earthquake, Ice Fang, Wild Charge, Sandstorm
    Sawsbuck: Body Slam, Rock Climb, Zen Headbutt
    Tauros: Body Slam, Headbutt, Rock Climb, Rock Smash
    Lurantis: Bug Buzz, Air Slash, Superpower/Close Combat
    Steenee: Acrobatics, Earth Power, Play Rough (via level-up), Brutal Swing
    Steenee, Tsareena: Petal Blizzard, Play Rough (via level-up), Brutal Swing, Brick Break, Rock Slide, Stomping Tantrum
    Buneary, Lopunny: Acrobatics, Play Rough, Brick Break
    Lopunny: Close Combat
    Kommo-o: Shell Smash, Quiver Dance, Close Combat, Aura Sphere, Surf
    Zebstrika: High Horsepower
    Gogoat: Grassy Terrain (via level-up)
    Silvally: Waterfall, Bug Buzz, Ancient Power, Sludge Wave, Earthquake, Dazzling Gleam, Play Rough, Energy Ball, Seed Bomb, Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Psyshock, Dragon Pulse, Nasty Plot, Agility, Extremespeed, Wild Charge, Flame Charge, Leaf Blade, Knock Off, Earth Power, Giga Drain, Aura Sphere
    Aerodactyl: Brave Bird, Head Smash
    Inkay, Malamar: Octazooka, Sludge Bomb, Leech Life
    Avalugg: Icicle Crash
    Beartic, Snover, Abomasnow: Ice Hammer
    Ekans, Arbok: Poison Fang (via level up), Poison Tail
    Passimian: Barrage
    Oranguru: Tri Attack
    Buzzwole: Giga Drain, Strength
    Blacephalon: Barrage, Signal Beam, Smart Strike, Energy Ball, Focus Blast, Brick Break
    Alolan Raichu: Electric Terrain (via level up), Zen Headbutt, Surf
    Alolan Sandshrew: Ice Shard, Rock Climb
    Alolan Ninetales: Energy Ball (seriously, the regular Fire-type Ninetales gets this move yet its Alolan form, which makes more sense to have the move, doesn't?), Water Pulse
    Alolan Exeggutor: Dragon Breath
    Alolan Muk: Elemental fangs, Psychic Fangs
     
  11. rocky505

    rocky505 Well-Known Member

    Samurott got Sacred Sword in USUM Shine.
     
  12. Shine

    Shine Psyched Up Staff Member Moderator

    oops xD

    Thanks, removing it now

    I actually do know Samurott gets it in US/UM since I re-check the move availability on each Pokemon I listed (it was actually an old list that needs updating) before posting it here, guess I simply forgot to remove it from the list.
     
  13. Tsukuyomi56

    Tsukuyomi56 Emblian Pride

    Why Incineroar does not get Sucker Punch is a bit baffling. Heel wrestlers are all about playing dirty so surprise attacks isn't out of Incineroar's element.
     
  14. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Well-Known Member

    Cosmoem also already gets Cosmic Power. It's one of the bulkiest pokémon in the game with it and Eviolite, it just lacks recovery or other moves.
     
  15. Weavy

    Weavy Usually silent

    I'm gonna do a UB edition here:

    Stakataka can't learn Heavy Slam

    This thing is one of the heaviest Pokémon in the game and I thought it would get this, but apparently not. It looks like it can crash into things with its heavy body, so it would make sense.

    Buzzwole can't learn Giga Drain

    It's UB Absorption. It steals things energy. But can't lean Giga Drain, which is like one the most basic absorbing moves. Giga Drain doesn't benefit it, but it does make sense to learn it.

    Celesteela can't learn Worry Seed


    This thing is a pseudo-plant which learns many Grass type moves. One would have expected it to get Worry Seed from tutors, but for some reason it doesn't. They can give it LEECH SEED, but not Worry Seed? It's a bit baffling.
     
  16. Shine

    Shine Psyched Up Staff Member Moderator

    Noted, I'll edit Cosmog-Cosmoem's entry on my list.

    I need to edit the list anyway, I forgot to add one more thing, despite Tauros' use as Rock Smash replacement in Alola, it can't learn the move at all in Gen 7, as there is no tutor or TM for the move. So I think it should have been able to learn the move via level up.
     
  17. Pikachu Fan Number Nine

    Pikachu Fan Number Nine Don't Mess wit Texas

    I think the Pikachu line should learn Bite since as their real-life counterparts as rodents must gnaw on hard surfaces constantly to keep their incisors from growing too big.

    I also want to see Scizor learn Crabhammer its pincers are not unlike those of a crab and it should have a way to overcome its Fire double weakness.

    All mammal-like Pokemon should have Milk Drink (since baby mammals drink milk)

    Growlithe and Arcanine should learn Lick (since dogs like their owners in excitement, like Growlie does with James)
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2018
  18. Gamzee Makara

    Gamzee Makara PoKé TrEk

    Why don't Sneasel and Weavile learn Razor Wind? They're literally Kamatatchi!

    Why can't Malamar Learn Leech Life? It's a VAMPIRE squid!
     
  19. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Super Sweet Sylveon

    It's quite baffling how Lycanroc can't learn Sandstorm given that almost all Rock-type Pokémon can learn it.
     
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  20. rocky505

    rocky505 Well-Known Member

    And how Midday has Sand Rush as an ability.
     

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