Woobatgirl
Number 1 Poke Girl
Firstly, this is in no way abuse, it's a logical and reasoned note to think about:
Pedophilia - Sexual feelings directed toward children
This can qualify as a relationship, sexual contact (including kissing), and all the way up to full intercourse with a child.
A person who does any of these things is classed as a pedophile simply by definition, just as a person who has feelings for the same sex is classed as homosexual by definition, and just as a person who studies is classed as a student by definition. My first point is to clarify that calling someone a pedophile is NOT in any way an insult, especially when that is what they are!
Next I want to mention that pedophilia is generally looked down upon. It's quite sick minded because it exposes children to sexual things, particulalry when these children are too young to make such decisions themselves. I shouldn't even have to exlain why pedophilia is wrong, you should all (unless you have some kind of illness or disability) know exactly why pedophilia, especially ACTING on it, is one of the most vile and disgusting things.
Now let’s move onto muhammed, prophet of islam:
muhammed was in a relationship with Aisha from the age of 6, had sex with her at 9 and EVEN if he has sex with her at 14 (which he didn’t, she was 9) he would STILL be classed as a pedophile by definition. Even if he didn't have sex at all, being in a relationship with a child would still count as pedophilia. However he went a step further and fondled her, kissed her and even had full intercourse with her.
This makes muhammed by sheer definition a pedophile.
Now as mentioned most people are against pedophilia. Saying this, whilst most muslims would agree with this, they STILL condone the actions of muhammed. Why? Well you see the majority of muslims are very ignorant, and they will blindly defend their religion regardless of any double standards and hypocrisy that they will inevitably have to use.
Logically if you hate pedophila, you hate pedophiles, and seeing as muhammed was a pedophile, logically hating pedophilia = hating muhammed.
However muslims do the opposite! They "Love" muhammed and try to follow and be like him? It just makes you wonder how deluded you'd have to be to love the thing you hate. It's illogical.
It's like hating knife crime but joining a gang.
There are two things a muslim will do when faced with the allegations of muhammed's pedophilia
A ) Deny it. Refuse to believe it ,illogically so, seeing as they believe he had a 9 year old wife, yet they refuse to believe he was a pedophile (that's like acknowledging that your father killed a man but refusing to believe he is a murderer. Complete logic fail!). Some will even just ignore it or skip over that particular part of islam.
B ) Attempt to justify it, and in doing so they end up trying to justify pedophilia itself. Some excuses are "it was a different time". So? How does this make it any more just? Some even claim that 9 years old is adult according to physical changes in the body. ********! Aisha even played with dolls at 9! She clearly had the mindset of a child. Some will try to say she was 14 (usually with little to no evidence), and yet whilst it's better than her being 9, it's STILL pedophilia. However she was definitely 9 as you can check out for yourself in the links and quotes I provide below.
In conclusion muslims seems to be in a battle with themselves as the life of muhammed and aisha cause a great conflict in their minds (I hate pedophilia > muhammed had a 9 year old wife > deny/justify). Subliminally all muslims who hate pedophilia, are going against the life of their own prophet.
See some of these links for a further reading:
http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Aisha's_Age_of_Consummation
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-pedophilia.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge/pedophile.htm
Note: Many muslims will also ignore links or refuse to refute them properly simply because they are against islam. This is illogical seeing as if you ignore everything against islam, you only have sources which a FOR islam, and then you have a biased selection of sources. A truly logical person looks at both sources for and against islam, and I have read many pro islamic sources in debates (however I refuse to do so if the muslim is A ) refusing to look at my own sources in return or B ) the muslim is simply posting links rather than actually debating with their own words. You need to have a good mix - posting all links shows a lack of individual input)
Additional Note: One muslim recently tried to justify muhammed as not being a pedophile using the following logical fail:
“muhammed can’t have been a pedophile as he had mature wives as well, and if he was attracted to them, how can he have been attracted to children?”
These are clearly the words of someone who doesn’t quite know what pedophilia is or typical pedophile behaviour. A pedophile can and is USUALLY attracted to adults as well as children as can be seen in this quote:
“Pedophiles can be married, single, male, female, bisexual, heterosexual, or homosexual. No matter what their sexual preferences are, pedophiles are often also attracted to adults. A pedophile that is attracted to both children and adults is called a Regressed Offender because they bounce back and forth between an adult sexual relationship and criminally assaulting children. There are two main types of pedophiles, the situational and the preferential. Situational Pedophiles will go after any group that is defenseless, such as the elderly, the mentally-challenged, the handicapped etc. This type prefers children, but will go after another group if they feel stressed. Preferential Pedophiles like children in a distinct age group and they typically do not deviate from this age group.”
http://childsafetips.abouttips.com/pedophiles-and-their-characteristics.php
“Non-exclusive pedophiles are attracted to both children and adults”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
It is a completely ridiculous to try and say that a person isn’t a pedophile just because they have adult relationships too. A gay person can also be attracted to the same gender (bisexuality) just as a pedophile can be attracted to children and adults, and ANY good source will tell you the same – even do a google search if you can’t be bothered to do too much research.
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Minor point :
Attraction to a 14 year old would actually be either Ephebophilia or Hebephilia, depending on whether the individual in question was an early-bloomer or late-bloomer.
Pedophilia: generally age 13 years or younger (depending on the onset of puberty)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
Hebephilia: generally ages 11 to 14 (depending on the onset of puberty)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia
Ephebophilia: generally ages 15 to 19
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia
CLEARLY it is still pedophilia when a 51 year old man thigh-****s a 6 year old girl, and when a 54 year old man has vaginal intercourse with a 9 year old girl.
Pedophilia - Sexual feelings directed toward children
This can qualify as a relationship, sexual contact (including kissing), and all the way up to full intercourse with a child.
A person who does any of these things is classed as a pedophile simply by definition, just as a person who has feelings for the same sex is classed as homosexual by definition, and just as a person who studies is classed as a student by definition. My first point is to clarify that calling someone a pedophile is NOT in any way an insult, especially when that is what they are!
Next I want to mention that pedophilia is generally looked down upon. It's quite sick minded because it exposes children to sexual things, particulalry when these children are too young to make such decisions themselves. I shouldn't even have to exlain why pedophilia is wrong, you should all (unless you have some kind of illness or disability) know exactly why pedophilia, especially ACTING on it, is one of the most vile and disgusting things.
Now let’s move onto muhammed, prophet of islam:
muhammed was in a relationship with Aisha from the age of 6, had sex with her at 9 and EVEN if he has sex with her at 14 (which he didn’t, she was 9) he would STILL be classed as a pedophile by definition. Even if he didn't have sex at all, being in a relationship with a child would still count as pedophilia. However he went a step further and fondled her, kissed her and even had full intercourse with her.
This makes muhammed by sheer definition a pedophile.
Now as mentioned most people are against pedophilia. Saying this, whilst most muslims would agree with this, they STILL condone the actions of muhammed. Why? Well you see the majority of muslims are very ignorant, and they will blindly defend their religion regardless of any double standards and hypocrisy that they will inevitably have to use.
Logically if you hate pedophila, you hate pedophiles, and seeing as muhammed was a pedophile, logically hating pedophilia = hating muhammed.
However muslims do the opposite! They "Love" muhammed and try to follow and be like him? It just makes you wonder how deluded you'd have to be to love the thing you hate. It's illogical.
It's like hating knife crime but joining a gang.
There are two things a muslim will do when faced with the allegations of muhammed's pedophilia
A ) Deny it. Refuse to believe it ,illogically so, seeing as they believe he had a 9 year old wife, yet they refuse to believe he was a pedophile (that's like acknowledging that your father killed a man but refusing to believe he is a murderer. Complete logic fail!). Some will even just ignore it or skip over that particular part of islam.
B ) Attempt to justify it, and in doing so they end up trying to justify pedophilia itself. Some excuses are "it was a different time". So? How does this make it any more just? Some even claim that 9 years old is adult according to physical changes in the body. ********! Aisha even played with dolls at 9! She clearly had the mindset of a child. Some will try to say she was 14 (usually with little to no evidence), and yet whilst it's better than her being 9, it's STILL pedophilia. However she was definitely 9 as you can check out for yourself in the links and quotes I provide below.
In conclusion muslims seems to be in a battle with themselves as the life of muhammed and aisha cause a great conflict in their minds (I hate pedophilia > muhammed had a 9 year old wife > deny/justify). Subliminally all muslims who hate pedophilia, are going against the life of their own prophet.
See some of these links for a further reading:
http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Aisha's_Age_of_Consummation
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-pedophilia.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge/pedophile.htm
Note: Many muslims will also ignore links or refuse to refute them properly simply because they are against islam. This is illogical seeing as if you ignore everything against islam, you only have sources which a FOR islam, and then you have a biased selection of sources. A truly logical person looks at both sources for and against islam, and I have read many pro islamic sources in debates (however I refuse to do so if the muslim is A ) refusing to look at my own sources in return or B ) the muslim is simply posting links rather than actually debating with their own words. You need to have a good mix - posting all links shows a lack of individual input)
Additional Note: One muslim recently tried to justify muhammed as not being a pedophile using the following logical fail:
“muhammed can’t have been a pedophile as he had mature wives as well, and if he was attracted to them, how can he have been attracted to children?”
These are clearly the words of someone who doesn’t quite know what pedophilia is or typical pedophile behaviour. A pedophile can and is USUALLY attracted to adults as well as children as can be seen in this quote:
“Pedophiles can be married, single, male, female, bisexual, heterosexual, or homosexual. No matter what their sexual preferences are, pedophiles are often also attracted to adults. A pedophile that is attracted to both children and adults is called a Regressed Offender because they bounce back and forth between an adult sexual relationship and criminally assaulting children. There are two main types of pedophiles, the situational and the preferential. Situational Pedophiles will go after any group that is defenseless, such as the elderly, the mentally-challenged, the handicapped etc. This type prefers children, but will go after another group if they feel stressed. Preferential Pedophiles like children in a distinct age group and they typically do not deviate from this age group.”
http://childsafetips.abouttips.com/pedophiles-and-their-characteristics.php
“Non-exclusive pedophiles are attracted to both children and adults”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
It is a completely ridiculous to try and say that a person isn’t a pedophile just because they have adult relationships too. A gay person can also be attracted to the same gender (bisexuality) just as a pedophile can be attracted to children and adults, and ANY good source will tell you the same – even do a google search if you can’t be bothered to do too much research.
---------------
Minor point :
Attraction to a 14 year old would actually be either Ephebophilia or Hebephilia, depending on whether the individual in question was an early-bloomer or late-bloomer.
Pedophilia: generally age 13 years or younger (depending on the onset of puberty)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
Hebephilia: generally ages 11 to 14 (depending on the onset of puberty)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia
Ephebophilia: generally ages 15 to 19
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia
CLEARLY it is still pedophilia when a 51 year old man thigh-****s a 6 year old girl, and when a 54 year old man has vaginal intercourse with a 9 year old girl.
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