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My Leaf Green team. Rate people. Major owning team here =O

The Mighty Wurmple

Well-Known Member
Uhh, yeah, here's my thread. Couldn't think of a title =D Okay, so it may not be and owning team, but it gets sort of close.
I have access to Emerald for Move Tutors, and all TM's.
All are Level 100.

Blastoise@Leftovers
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
Trait: Torrent
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Toxic (Didn't really feel like Sleep Talk)
- Rest

My Bulky-ish water Pokemon.

Flareon@Choice Band
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
Trait: Flash Fire
- Fire Blast (Don't like using Overheat)
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Iron Tail

My Choice Bander, does it's job well. Iron Tail there for Rock types.

Alakazam@Shell Bell
Nature: Modest (SAtk, -Atk)
Trait: Synchronize
- Psychic
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch
- Calm Mind/Thunder Punch (Can't decide between the two. I am leaning towards Thunder Punch because Alakazam is too frail. Need help.)

Ma Special Sweeper.

Steelix@Leftovers
Nature: Careful (+SDef, -SAtk)
Trait: Sturdy
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Explosion

My Physical Wall.

Dodrio@Salac/Leichi berry when I can get them.
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
Trait: Early Bird
- Drill Peck
- Endure
- Flail
- Quick Attack (?)

Not Sure on the last move, haven't actually caught it yet. Will be using the Flailer set though.

Regice@Leftovers
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
Trait: Clear Body
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Works surprisingly well. Might use Thunder Wave. Any suggestions on what I should use?

Uh, rate, fix, do whatever you need to do.
 

The Mighty Wurmple

Well-Known Member
It sorta needs help with it's Special Defense. Like Kingdra said, it has enough defense already.
 

Frost Nova

The predator awaits.
Steelix just needs around 200 max SDef to take unboosted special attacks. Impish please, and put enough Def EVs on it to reach 500 max Def. Also Toxic > Explosion. You really don't want to blow up your physical wall.

Zam needs Calm Mind more: Ice Punch isn't really needed since STAB Psychic and Fire Punch cover a lot more types than it does.

Alakazam@lefties / Lum Berry
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Fire Punch
- Recover / T-Punch

Agility > Quick Attack on Flailing Dodrio, and give it a Liechi berry.
 

Volt Tackle Pichu

Wind Reploid Lv9
Blastoise@Leftovers
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
Trait: Torrent
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Toxic (Didn't really feel like Sleep Talk)
- Rest
This is OK. Take Lefties, put Chesto Berry

Flareon@Choice Band
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
Trait: Flash Fire
- Fire Blast (Don't like using Overheat)
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Iron Tail
Looks good. Iron Tail is innacurate but it whorts it. Use Flamethrower. Take out Choice Band, 394 Atk is enough to 1/2HKO anyone

Alakazam@Shell Bell
Nature: Modest (SAtk, -Atk)
Trait: Synchronize
- Psychic
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch
- Calm Mind/Thunder Punch
Calm Mind. If a Water Pokemon appears use Sabbed Psychic. Now, the probabilities of battling a Water Psychic PKMN is 3/386

Steelix@Leftovers
Nature: Careful (+SDef, -SAtk)
Trait: Sturdy
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Explosion
Why REST? If want to use Explosion, change to Rock Tomb, reduce the foe Speed, next turn blow up first, But Steeliz is, in my opinion, non-explosive.

Dodrio@Salac/Leichi berry when I can get them.
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
Trait: Early Bird
- Drill Peck
- Endure
- Flail
- Quick Attack (?)
Liechi Berries: Battle Frontier, but don't know how
Salac Berries: Give 15,000 Pokecoupons on XD or success Battle CDS # I don't know
Quick Attack out, Agilty in. Lieichi Berry Equiped. Stab Flail and Powered Stabbed Drill Peck. Sure 1/2HKO

I don't rate Legendaries, even Small ones
 

Reno

so adorable...
Blastoise@Leftovers
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
Trait: Torrent
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Toxic (Didn't really feel like Sleep Talk)
- Rest
This is OK. Take Lefties, put Chesto Berry no. leave lefties.

Flareon@Choice Band
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
Trait: Flash Fire
- Fire Blast (Don't like using Overheat) overheat is prefered but fire blast works just as well
- Return quick attack
- Shadow Ball
- Iron Tail
Looks good. Iron Tail is innacurate but it whorts it. Use Flamethrower. Take out Choice Band, 394 Atk is enough to 1/2HKO anyone yeh choice band flareon is the only one that really works. and no to flamethrower

Alakazam@Shell Bell lum berry
Nature: Modest (SAtk, -Atk)
Trait: Synchronize
- Psychic
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch
- Calm Mind/Thunder Punch calm mind always
Calm Mind. If a Water Pokemon appears use Sabbed Psychic. Now, the probabilities of battling a Water Psychic PKMN is 3/386

Steelix@Leftovers
Nature: Careful (+SDef, -SAtk)
Trait: Sturdy
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake iron tail could be used to take out claydol, whcih arent in LG/FR
- Rest
- Explosion toxic
Why REST? If want to use Explosion, change to Rock Tomb, reduce the foe Speed, next turn blow up first, But Steeliz is, in my opinion, non-explosive.

Dodrio@Salac/Leichi berry when I can get them. leichi
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
Trait: Early Bird
- Drill Peck
- Endure
- Flail
- Quick Attack (?) agility
Liechi Berries: Battle Frontier, but don't know how you cant get leichi berrys at BF. you get one at mirage island.
Salac Berries: Give 15,000 Pokecoupons on XD or success Battle CDS # I don't know
Quick Attack out, Agilty in. Lieichi Berry Equiped. Stab Flail and Powered Stabbed Drill Peck. Sure 1/2HKO

I don't rate Legendaries, even Small ones and why not?

fixed on volt tackle's sets. and regice options..

regice@leftovers
bold
-ice beam
-thudnerbolt
-rest
-sleep talk/thudner wave/toxic/counter/psych up

i have sleep talk on my regice. it does work well.
 

Reno

so adorable...
no. it wants a plus defense nature. its not a sweeper, its a physcial wall. impish/relaxed. impish preferred.
 

Reno

so adorable...
so do i. seriously, thats why everyone has been suggesting impish. its a physcial wall, so it wants a +defense nature. yes it does already have alot of defense, so a +spec.defense could work. like careful.
 

DragonDance

thrasher
Steelix only needs 200 Sdef, which can be met without a boost

450 Def in enough.

Adamant raises his attack power, which he could use.


This is the steelix you want.

Steelix (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 56 Def / 136 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Iron Tail/Rock Slide/HP Rock
- Toxic/Roar/Explosion/Rest
- Toxic/Roar/Explosion/Rest
 

graceofbaal

Steel Trainer
Impish is the only way to go for a Physical Wall, especially one like Steelix. Steelix wasn't made to take Special Hits with too much ease, so don't act like it's possible. Natures and EVs should work out to benefit a Pokemon's specialty, NOT cover weakness. Go with Impish, and slam EVs into Special Defense, Attack, and HP. It could be the difference between an Attack doing 3 HP, if you went with Adamant, or some non-Defense boost nature), and doing 1 HP of damage. Which would you prefer?

Steelix @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
- Earthquake (for a simple and effective Attack)
- Toxic (works wonders with Steelix, but even better on Whirlwind/Roar Skarmory)
- Substitute (Sub is always great on any kind of Wall)
- Rest (also works wonders on walls)

Viper has the EVs right, and gives good move options. But don't go with Adamant. Save that nature for a Physical Sweeper. As I said, boost it's specialties, DON'T cover weaknesses. That's what switching out is for. ;-)

Explosion on Steelix could work, but I wouldn't suggest it. It's poor speed ensures that it will nearly NEVER strike first, leaving the idea of going boom when his HP is low quite unreliable when he could easily just Rest his pain away. My idea being, your foe could possibly take you out before having a chance to use Explosion.Of course, same rule applies to Rest, but still... I'd say just Baton Pass a helluvalot of Speed to Steelix. Rest lets him last longer. You could een equip a Chesto Berry for a free turn.

In my opinion, Skarmory does a much better job as a Physical Wall. Not only does it have an immunity to ground moves, but it’s Speed is pretty much better (my Steelix has an amazing Speed of 70 at level 86, if that gives you an idea). Only other weakness to Skarmory is electric, but electric moves I found are much more uncommon than Earthquake, the epitome move of a Physical Sweeper, precisely what a Physical Wall is made to counteract; and a good Earthquake will put Steelix out of his misery in no time, no matter Steelix’s defense. But again, that’s why you switch out! But if a Magnet-Pull Magneton comes in (happened to me before!), say bye-bye Skarmory! lol

Also, having a non-Modest natured Alakazam is noobish. He already has enough Speed to outrun most Pokes not specializing in Speed. Something like Special Attack on someone like Alakazam is un-negotiable!
 
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DragonDance

thrasher
as i already said, 450 is all steelix needs. you way aswell boost your attack, instead of wasting your nature on something thats non needed.

that steelix set you posted fails.

a) it is walled by a pidgey
b) substitute on steelix sucks. even more when paired with rest.

use the set i posted. use win.


and i meant careful instead of calm. my mistake
 
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