My OU Bulky Offense Team

[Dragon_Reborn]

Hello,this is my current bulky offense team I am using.Feel free to suggest new movesets,pokemon,etc.Rate away!

Team Glance

Swampert@Leftovers
Ability:Torrent
EV's: 240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpD
Nature:Relaxed
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Ice Beam
-Roar
Swampert is my lead pokemon.He can lay down Stealth Rock easily.Swampert is a great asset to Gyarados as he can absorb any electric attacks aimed towards Gyarados.I chose Roar over Protect due to the fact I can stack up a bit risidual damage from Stealth Rock with it and get rid of some type disadvantages towards him.

Gyarados@Leftovers
Ability:Intimidate
EV's:156 HP / 72 Atk / 96 Def / 184 Spe
Nature:Adamant
-Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Stone Edge
-Taunt
This is a bulky Gyarados set here.I sacrificed some of the attack and speed ev's to make her more bulkier for my style of team.Dragon Dance was added to make her a more effective sweeper with the help of the extra attack and speed increase.Taunt can shut down stall teams(if I come across any)and also shut down some annoying pokemon like Breloom/Suicune.

Scizor@Choice Band
Ability:Technician
EV's:248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Nature:Adamant
-U-Turn
-Bullet Punch
-Superpower(Currently Brick Break)
-Pursuit
Scizor makes a great revenge killer.I'm currently using Brick Break till I can afford Superpower.Once counters like Heatran and Magnezone are down my Scizor can start to sweep their team.

Heatran@Choice Scarf
Ability:Flash Fire
EV's:252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Nature:Naive
-Fire Blast
-Dragon Pulse
-Earth Power
-Explosion
Heatran makes a great revenge killer as well.Heatran is a good asset to Scizor to absorb fire attack towards him.I threw Dragon Pulse in here as a way to deal with Dragonite and Kingdra effectively.Explosion is great to deal with bulky waters or things like Blissey.

Jirachi@Leftovers
Ability:Serene Grace
EV's:252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe
Nature:Relaxed(nature I got from event)
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Thunderbolt
-Wish
Jirachi is a great special sweeper and support with Wish.Luckily Jirachi can absorb Toxic so it won't be slowed down much.Calm Mind is in here to provide a boost in special attack and make its special defense bulkier.I like the fact on Wish in this moveset as it gives my team some kind of healing ability to stay in longer and sweep away.After a couple Calm Mind's,Thunderbolt can help against bulky waters like Suicune that are commonly seen.

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Abilityoison Heal
EV's:12 HP / 252 Atk / 244 Spe
Nature:Adamant
-Seed Bomb
-Spore
-Focus Punch
-Substitute
Breloom pretty much was my filler pokemon.I mainly chose Breloom because of the move Spore.Breloom can spread Spore around easily and then start to wreak havoc.I added Focus Punch to make short work of things like Blissey and Snorlax.Substitute makes her annoying to go against since she can absorb a attack and heal back with Poison Heal ability.

Well,that's my team.What do you think of it?

 

[plumoe]

I love the idea of a bulky offence! You should add Iron head to Jirachi as with the serene grace ability it goes up to 60% chance of flinch! Soooooo anoying to those recieving flinch after flinch after flinch...
A strong team, have you considered its weaknesses? such as certaing types and moves?

 

[artbomber_97]

Wow, this team is very good. I can't see any clear threat to this team, even SkarmBliss won't be able to take it down. Yeah, your Scizor and Jirachi are trapped by Magnezone, but with Superpower and CM that won't be a big deal. Besides, Tran can check him out right. Congratz bro, you must be an awesome player. ^^

 

[pupintheturd]

you are indeed very awesome but know this:
Heatran what a huge threat he is and with his popularity you will see him a lot
and together with Starmie it can sweep your whole team!
but i don't know if it works that way
have you tried your team out?

 

[#TWERKTEAM]

Wow, this team is very good. I can't see any clear threat to this team, even SkarmBliss won't be able to take it down. Yeah, your Scizor and Jirachi are trapped by Magnezone, but with Superpower and CM that won't be a big deal. Besides, Tran can check him out right. Congratz bro, you must be an awesome player. ^^

Good team =/= Good player Plus, Scizor is normally locked into BP so you can't superpower the Zone anyway.

I love the idea of a bulky offence! You should add Iron head to Jirachi as with the serene grace ability it goes up to 60% chance of flinch! Soooooo anoying to those recieving flinch after flinch after flinch...
A strong team, have you considered its weaknesses? such as certaing types and moves?

That Rachi is a bulky sweeper and it's not going to outrun much to flinch them. I'm guessing you're new at this.

This team is very weak to Shaymin, with the only poke you have being able to take a hit being Gyarados and that's even 2HKO'd by Seed Flare. To remedy this I suggest using DDDragonite over Gyarados. You don't really gain any weaknesses and if the Shaymin has HP Ice then Scizor can beat it.

Also, I'm not a fan of Pert Lead or ScarfTran, but whatever works for you I guess.

 

[Zalis]

Grass hits are weak against Steel. And by the time Shaymin will try Earth Power he'll be dead.
Gyarados is okay. He can ruin a team if an opponent is not prepared. He is coupled with partners that resist electric and rock, so he's a good choice.
Starmie and Heatran are handled by two pokemon each. They can't make this team loose by themselves if they fight together early-game.
The only point that I think of is that the pokemon and the movesets used in this team are well-known (except for Jirachi's). Well-known movesets are a bit of a disadvantage because teams are build to counter them (now this is only my personal opinion and it might not make a huge difference).
The team doesn't seem to need any change.

 

[#TWERKTEAM]

Grass hits are weak against Steel. And by the time Shaymin will try Earth Power he'll be dead.
Gyarados is okay. He can ruin a team if an opponent is not prepared. He is coupled with partners that resist electric and rock, so he's a good choice.
Starmie and Heatran are handled by two pokemon each. They can't make this team loose by themselves if they fight together early-game.
The only point that I think of is that the pokemon and the movesets used in this team are well-known (except for Jirachi's). Well-known movesets are a bit of a disadvantage because teams are build to counter them (now this is only my personal opinion and it might not make a huge difference).
The team doesn't seem to need any change.

Rofl you're stupid.

By the time it can Earth Power? It can earth power on his switch to ScarfTran and easily kill it. HP Fire hits the Scizor. EP or HP Fire hits Rachi. The rachi set is also extremely common nowadays so I have no clue what you're talking about. Now that I look at it Starmie also gives this team trouble too, as your only reliable switch in is Rachi, and that won't be living too long.

 

[Zachmac]

This is a nice team. Maybe you could get a metagross with agility. Great bulk, agility to make up for lack of speed, and after an agility, it could probably OHKO a shaymin with Meteor mash, since most sets are offensive. I personally like this set.
Metagross
252 Attack/252 HP(Adamant)
Agility
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Thunder Punch

And to handle the choice set, the opponent would probably which in on swampert for a seed flare, which metagross resist. Thunder Punch is amazing, since people like to swap it's sweep with gyrados.

....And you said that breloom was just a filler? Now you know what to use over it.

I especially like your gyrados. Dragon Dance sets are so hard to take down after a couple of boost, I always carry a gryados counter in my team.

By the time it can Earth Power? It can earth power on his switch to ScarfTran and easily kill it. HP Fire hits the Scizor. EP or HP Fire hits Rachi. The rachi set is also extremely common nowadays so I have no clue what you're talking about. Now that I look at it Starmie also gives this team trouble too, as your only reliable switch in is Rachi, and that won't be living too long.

But what if heatran comes in on an HP fire aimed at scizor? It will out-speed and take down jirachi, and be a more dangerous sweeper.

 

[#TWERKTEAM]

What Jirachi are you talking about? Just because you have Heatran for HP Fire doesn't mean you're not weak to Shaymin, it could easily just predict you and EP. The only thing you can do is make 50/50 predicts and hope you get it right.

 

[Dragon_Reborn]

Heatran what a huge threat he is and with his popularity you will see him a lot
and together with Starmie it can sweep your whole team!

Have you tried your team out?

Your right,my team does have some major weakness to Heatran and Starmie.Heatran poses a threat to Scizor(Fire Blast),Jirachi(Fire Blast),Breloom(Fire Blast),and even other Heatran's(Earth Power).Starmie poses a threat to Heatran,Gyarados,and Breloom.I really need to find something to counter these 2 pokemon especially.

Yes,I've tried my team out on Shoddy and had pretty good luck with it.

This team is very weak to Shaymin, with the only poke you have being able to take a hit being Gyarados and that's even 2HKO'd by Seed Flare. To remedy this I suggest using DDDragonite over Gyarados. You don't really gain any weaknesses and if the Shaymin has HP Ice then Scizor can beat it.

Also, I'm not a fan of Pert Lead or ScarfTran, but whatever works for you I guess.

Your not kidding,Shaymin can destroy my team easily by itself.Shaymin can destory Swampert(Seed Flare),Scizor(HP [Fire]),Heatran(Earth Power),Jirachi(HP [Fire]),Breloom(HP [Fire]) and even Gyarados has a problem with Seed Flare.Defiently,need to find a counter to this since it can pretty much wipe out my entire team.Any suggestions here?

Dragon Dance Dragonite might work well over Gyarados.

The only reason I chose Swampert as a lead pokemon is that it works well with Gyarados in general.Gyarados is very fragile to electric attack so I would switch to Swampert to absorb it.Also,Swampert has access to Earthquake that could wipe out a electric type so that Gyarados can set up and start sweeping effectively.

If I were to drop Swampert,I would need something to absorb electric attacks for Gyarados or Gyarados would have some serious problems sweeping.The only ones I can see possibly replacing Swampert would be Flygon(immune)or Electrivire(Motor Drive).I personally think Flygon would be the best of the 2.If I were to do that I'd probably use a Lead Metagross or something.

Maybe you could get a metagross with agility. Great bulk, agility to make up for lack of speed, and after an agility, it could probably OHKO a shaymin with Meteor mash, since most sets are offensive. I personally like this set.
Metagross
252 Attack/252 HP
Adamant
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Thunder Punch

Hmm...I thought about trying out either a Lead Metagross or Agilty Metagross over Jirachi.The only reason I chose Jirachi was mainly,because I needed some kind of special sweeper.I have quite a bit of physical sweeper/revenge killers.

 

[#TWERKTEAM]

Your right,my team does have some major weakness to Heatran and Starmie.Heatran poses a threat to Scizor(Fire Blast),Jirachi(Fire Blast),Breloom(Fire Blast),and even other Heatran's(Earth Power).Starmie poses a threat to Heatran,Gyarados,and Breloom.I really need to find something to counter these 2 pokemon especially.

Yes,I've tried my team out on Shoddy and had pretty good luck with it.



Your not kidding,Shaymin can destroy my team easily by itself.Shaymin can destory Swampert(Seed Flare),Scizor(HP [Fire]),Heatran(Earth Power),Jirachi(HP [Fire]),Breloom(HP [Fire]) and even Gyarados has a problem with Seed Flare.Defiently,need to find a counter to this since it can pretty much wipe out my entire team.Any suggestions here?

Dragon Dance Dragonite might work well over Gyarados.

The only reason I chose Swampert as a lead pokemon is that it works well with Gyarados in general.Gyarados is very fragile to electric attack so I would switch to Swampert to absorb it.Also,Swampert has access to Earthquake that could wipe out a electric type so that Gyarados can set up and start sweeping effectively.

If I were to drop Swampert,I would need something to absorb electric attacks for Gyarados or Gyarados would have some serious problems sweeping.The only ones I can see possibly replacing Swampert would be Flygon(immune)or Electrivire(Motor Drive).I personally think Flygon would be the best of the 2.If I were to do that I'd probably use a Lead Metagross or something.


Hmm...I thought about trying out either a Lead Metagross or Agilty Metagross over Jirachi.The only reason I chose Jirachi was mainly,because I needed some kind of special sweeper.I have quite a bit of physical sweeper/revenge killers.

Okay replace Swampert with LeadGross as it beats a good amount of common leads nowadays including Machamp, who you outspeed and 2HKO with MM, and with a Lum Berry it will never hit itself in confusion after the first DPunch.

I would also replace your current Heatran set with SubTran, as it allows tran to cripple it's common counters and avoid an EP or EQ for a turn.

Heatran@Lefties
252 sp att/252 spe/6 sp def
Nature: Timid
Ability: Flash Fire
Moves:
-Fire Blast
-EP
-Sub
-Toxic

I would also replace Rachi with Starmie, as it still gives you an Ice resist plus gives you a great special attacker and a status absorber just in case Breloom hasn't activated Toxic Orb yet.

Starmie@Life Orb
252 sp att/252 spe/6 hp
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves:
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Tbolt
-Recover

And yes, replace Gayra for Dnite.

 

[Dragon_Reborn]

Okay replace Swampert with LeadGross as it beats a good amount of common leads nowadays including Machamp, who you outspeed and 2HKO with MM, and with a Lum Berry it will never hit itself in confusion after the first DPunch.

Well...LeadGross does seem alot better then LeadPert,but the only reason I used LeadPert was for electric absorption for Gyarados.Unless I could replace Swampert with something like Flygon to absorb electric attacks aimed at Gyarados.

I would also replace your current Heatran set with SubTran, as it allows tran to cripple it's common counters and avoid an EP or EQ for a turn.

Heatran@Lefties
252 sp att/252 spe/6 sp def
Nature: Timid
Ability: Flash Fire
Moves:
-Fire Blast
-EP
-Sub
-Toxic

SubTran seems to be a pretty valid moveset.I'll have to consider that.

I would also replace Rachi with Starmie, as it still gives you an Ice resist plus gives you a great special attacker and a status absorber just in case Breloom hasn't activated Toxic Orb yet.

Starmie@Life Orb
252 sp att/252 spe/6 hp
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves:
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Tbolt
-Recover

And yes, replace Gayra for Dnite.

Starmie would make a great addition,but he kind of lacks in the bulkiness catagory compared to Jirachi.I must say the ice resistance and status absorb is nice.I may have to consider one.

 

[AB2]

Hi, this is a pretty good team, but I have some suggestions that I want you to look at. The first problem that I notice is that you lack a safe switchin to Life Orb Heatran. Gyarados is your best switchin; however it only manages to do that one time between stealth rock damage and Fire Blast doing quite a lot, you aren't going to be around to check Heatran easily. You are quite weak to offensive suicune, life orb variants in particular as you really have no safe switchins to a Life Orb Hydro Pump that aren't quickly decimated by a boosted Ice Beam, Hidden Power, or another Hydro Pump. You are pretty weak to Nasty Plot Infernape that happen to pack Vacuum Wave. The reason behind this is that Heatran is your revenge killer to Infernape; however it most likely be getting KO'd by a boosted vacuum wave with some prior damage. Gyarados also hates boosted fire blasts after stealth rocks so your best switch is almost decimated by Infernape. I would also like to note that Swampert is quite a poor lead in terms of getting stealth rocks up most of the time so I suggest that you replace that.

My first suggestion would be to run a Leech Seed Shaymin over that Breloom. This will help you out quite a lot in terms of your Suicune weakness and bulky water problem in general. Also, Shaymin helps break down stall teams provided you play correctly. Shaymin will also fit perfectly over Breloom because it won't destroy the synergy that you have already with your electric resist; however you lose one important rock resist, but that can be fixed later.

Shaymin @ Leftovers
Natural Cure 252 HP | 64 SpA | 188 Spe Timid
Seed Flare | Hidden Power Fire | Protect | Leech Seed

Now I would suggest that you run a different bulky water for several different reasons. This is because Gyarados, although very useful with its resistances and good typing, isn't cut out to check Life Orb Heatran more than once. I would highly recommend that you run an offensive suicune over your Gyarados. Offensive Suicune also makes fantastic offensive synergy with your Jirachi so that will come to much use as well.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Pressure 4 HP | 252 SpA | 252 Spe
Calm Mind | Hydro Pump | Ice Beam | Hidden Power Electric

Although Suicune makes a good check to a good number of threatening pokemon in the metagame, it can't switch into physical mix ape more than once. If you feel more comfortable running an alternate EV spread of 252 HP | 74 SpA | 176 Spe than go ahead and do so, as it will check most Infernape on its own quite comfortably. Although, between the more offensive suicune spread and your Heatran, you should have Infernape checked nicely. Other suggestions that I would like to give is shifting your Jirachi to lead position and running a choice scarf on it with Iron Head | Stealth Rocks | U-turn | Fire Punch. This will allow you to have a decent lead as well as still being able to get stealth rocks up pretty early. Also, Jirachi can check Tyranitar pretty decently as well, and with Fire Punch, you have a backup Lucario check. Also, if you are switching Jirachi to the lead spot, I would run a substitute Machamp over Swampert. This allows you a safe switchin to choice banded Tyranitar, which you desperately needed and also gives you a nice partner to Jirachi as well. Finally, if you are putting a Scarf on Jirachi you may want to, although it isn't necessary by any means, to take the scarf off of Heatran. This will allow you to run a Life Orb and Taunt on Heatran which breaks down stall teams very easily, allowing Suicune to sweep through them with no trouble at all.

That is all I have to say for now, I hope you take my changes into consideration, gl!

 

[Dragon_Reborn]

My first suggestion would be to run a Leech Seed Shaymin over that Breloom. This will help you out quite a lot in terms of your Suicune weakness and bulky water problem in general. Also, Shaymin helps break down stall teams provided you play correctly. Shaymin will also fit perfectly over Breloom because it won't destroy the synergy that you have already with your electric resist; however you lose one important rock resist, but that can be fixed later.

Shaymin @ Leftovers
Natural Cure 252 HP | 64 SpA | 188 Spe Timid
Seed Flare | Hidden Power Fire | Protect | Leech Seed

Yeah,I really want to use a Shaymin,but I just noticed I can't get in HG due to it being a event pokemon.Though I still could use him on Shoddy Battle which I will do so.

Now I would suggest that you run a different bulky water for several different reasons. This is because Gyarados, although very useful with its resistances and good typing, isn't cut out to check Life Orb Heatran more than once. I would highly recommend that you run an offensive suicune over your Gyarados. Offensive Suicune also makes fantastic offensive synergy with your Jirachi so that will come to much use as well.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Pressure 4 HP | 252 SpA | 252 Spe
Calm Mind | Hydro Pump | Ice Beam | Hidden Power Electric

Although Suicune makes a good check to a good number of threatening pokemon in the metagame, it can't switch into physical mix ape more than once. If you feel more comfortable running an alternate EV spread of 252 HP | 74 SpA | 176 Spe than go ahead and do so, as it will check most Infernape on its own quite comfortably. Although, between the more offensive suicune spread and your Heatran, you should have Infernape checked nicely.

I really like the idea of Suicune as he provides a great bulky special sweeper,but I don't know if I would use him over Gyarados though.Suicune does have alot more bulkiness then Gyarados does.I think I want to add Suicune in there somehow though.

Other suggestions that I would like to give is shifting your Jirachi to lead position and running a choice scarf on it with Iron Head | Stealth Rocks | U-turn | Fire Punch. This will allow you to have a decent lead as well as still being able to get stealth rocks up pretty early. Also, Jirachi can check Tyranitar pretty decently as well, and with Fire Punch, you have a backup Lucario check.

As for the lead spot,I was kind of thinking about replacing Swampert with Metagross,but Jirachi might work as well.The only real reason I used Swampert as a lead in general was to have someone absorb some electric attacks for Gyarados.

Also, if you are switching Jirachi to the lead spot, I would run a substitute Machamp over Swampert. This allows you a safe switchin to choice banded Tyranitar, which you desperately needed and also gives you a nice partner to Jirachi as well. Finally, if you are putting a Scarf on Jirachi you may want to, although it isn't necessary by any means, to take the scarf off of Heatran. This will allow you to run a Life Orb and Taunt on Heatran which breaks down stall teams very easily, allowing Suicune to sweep through them with no trouble at all.

I kind of actually like the idea of Sub Machamp.100% Dynamicpunch,Payback,and Stone Edge keep plenty of pokemon at bay.I'm going to have to keep this pokemon in mind.

That is all I have to say for now, I hope you take my changes into consideration, gl![/QUOTE]