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My PvP team (Crystal)

Ccme01

New Member
My PvP team. All lvl 100...

These 3 are always in my team.

1.Celebi leftovers

Leech seed
Recover
Giga drain
Heal bell

2.Heracross leftovers

Megahorn
Reversal
Counter
Earthquake

3.Starmie Brightpowder

Recover
Thunder
Ice beam
Hydro pump

These 2 are in my team if they are allowed.

(4.)Lugia Scope lens

Aeroblast
Recover
Hydro pump
Psychic

(5.)Ho-oh Quick claw

Sacred fire
Recover
Earthquake
Thunderbolt


I don't know what's best, any advice on which of the following I should use as #4,5 & 6?
(?.) Gengar Quick claw
Destiny bond
Protect
Confuse ray
Haze or Toxic?

(?.) Crobat Leftovers
Toxic
Detect
Confuse ray
Haze or something else?

(?.) Electrode polkadot bow
Explosion
Protect
Thunder wave
Thunderbolt

(?.) Dugtrio Focus band But it never works? :(
Earthquake
Dig
Toxic
Protect

(?.) Machamp Black belt
Cross chop
Earthquake
Rock slide
Flamethrower?

(?.) Golduck scope lens
Cross chop
Psychic
Hydro pump
Ice beam

And what about my tech sets, are they good?
I have a big electric weakness, what can I do about that?
Any advice on tech setd and pokemon choices are welcome.
 

Dragon_Reborn

Well-Known Member
1.Celebi@leftovers
Leech seed
Recover
Giga drain
Heal bell
Psychic over Giga Drain.

2.Heracross@leftovers
Megahorn
Reversal
Counter
Earthquake
Rest over Reversal.Sleep Talk over Counter.

3.Starmie@Brightpowder
Recover
Thunder
Ice beam
Hydro pump
Thunderbolt over Thunder.Surf over Hydro Pump.

These 2 are in my team if they are allowed.

(4.)Lugia@Scope lens
Aeroblast
Recover
Hydro pump
Psychic
Earthquake over Psychic.Curse over Hydro Pump.

(5.)Ho-oh@Quick claw
Sacred fire
Recover
Earthquake
Thunderbolt
Good.

I don't know what's best, any advice on which of the following I should use as #4,5 & 6?

(?.) Gengar@Quick claw
Destiny bond
Protect
Confuse ray
Haze or Toxic?
Explosion over Density Bond.Hypnosis over Protect.Thunderbolt over Confuse Ray.Ice Punch over Haze/Toxic.

(?.) Crobat@Leftovers
Toxic
Detect
Confuse ray
Haze or something else?
Wing Attack over Detect.Hidden Power Fighting over Haze.

(?.) Electrode@polkadot bow
Explosion
Protect
Thunder wave
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Grass/Hidden Power Water/Hidden Power Ice over Protect.

(?.) Dugtrio Focus band But it never works?
Earthquake
Dig
Toxic
Protect
Rock Slide over Dig.Sludge Bomb over Toxic.Substitute over Protect.

(?.) Machamp Black belt
Cross chop
Earthquake
Rock slide
Flamethrower?
Good.Yes,throw Fire Blast/Flamethrower in there.

(?.) Golduck scope lens
Cross chop
Psychic
Hydro pump
Ice beam
Hypnosis over Psychic.Surf over Hydro Pump.

And what about my tech sets, are they good?
I have a big electric weakness, what can I do about that?
Any advice on tech setd and pokemon choices are welcome.

Pretty good team here.Changes are in bold.You do have quite a bit of electric weakness.You need a good defensive wall in you team.I would recommend either Skarmory,Steelix or Donphan.Your choice on which to use.There all good.I would throw Gengar in there as a good starting off pokemon.He has good speed and good types.Dugtrio could be good to use in here to get rid of your eletric weakness and eletric pokemon but Steelix and Donphan can too.Blissey is always good for a special wall.Maybe something like Celebi,Heracross,Starmie,Gengar,Blissey,Skarmory/Steelix/Donphan.You would have all the basics in there.Starmie a special sweeper.Heracross a physical sweeper.Celebi a defensive pokemon.Gengar as a starting off pokemon.Blissey as a special wall,Skarmory/Steelix/Donphan as a physical wall.It's up to you though.

Skarmory@Leftovers
~Drill Peck
~Curse/Thief
~Rest
~Roar

Steelix@Leftovers
~Earthquake
~Rock Slide
~Rest
~Roar

Donphan@Leftovers
~Earthquake
~Ancientpower/Hidden Power Rock/Rapid Spin
~Rest
~Roar

Blissey@Leftovers
~Ice Beam
~Thunderbolt/Thunder Wave/Light Screen
~Softboiled
~Heal Bell
 

Ccme01

New Member
Pretty good team here.Changes are in bold.You do have quite a bit of electric weakness.You need a good defensive wall in you team.I would recommend either Skarmory,Steelix or Donphan.Your choice on which to use.There all good.I would throw Gengar in there as a good starting off pokemon.He has good speed and good types.Dugtrio could be good to use in here to get rid of your eletric weakness and eletric pokemon but Steelix and Donphan can too.Blissey is always good for a special wall.Maybe something like Celebi,Heracross,Starmie,Gengar,Blissey,Skarmory/Steelix/Donphan.You would have all the basics in there.Starmie a special sweeper.Heracross a physical sweeper.Celebi a defensive pokemon.Gengar as a starting off pokemon.Blissey as a special wall,Skarmory/Steelix/Donphan as a physical wall.It's up to you though.

Skarmory@Leftovers
~Drill Peck
~Curse/Thief
~Rest
~Roar

Steelix@Leftovers
~Earthquake
~Rock Slide
~Rest
~Roar

Donphan@Leftovers
~Earthquake
~Ancientpower/Hidden Power Rock/Rapid Spin
~Rest
~Roar

Blissey@Leftovers
~Ice Beam
~Thunderbolt/Thunder Wave/Light Screen
~Softboiled
~Heal Bell

Thanks, that's very good advice. :)
I do have some questions thought:
I like the Skarmory but does it really know roar?
If reversal is removed from heracross there's no fighting type attack anymore so no (good) way to counter noramal types.
There's also no hazer if Haze is removed from Gengar/Crobat.

I see the p-hazers you suggest but they are quite slow and a sweeper could ohko them if attack connects. I understand that surf/Thunderbolt has more acc but i like to take the risk so I use Hydro/Thunder instead.

Since Lugia and Golduck have Psychic I thought I needed a grass move for Celebi, it works well with it's other attacks too.
 

Ccme01

New Member
Pretty good team here.Changes are in bold.You do have quite a bit of electric weakness.You need a good defensive wall in you team.I would recommend either Skarmory,Steelix or Donphan.Your choice on which to use.There all good.I would throw Gengar in there as a good starting off pokemon.He has good speed and good types.Dugtrio could be good to use in here to get rid of your eletric weakness and eletric pokemon but Steelix and Donphan can too.Blissey is always good for a special wall.Maybe something like Celebi,Heracross,Starmie,Gengar,Blissey,Skarmory/Steelix/Donphan.You would have all the basics in there.Starmie a special sweeper.Heracross a physical sweeper.Celebi a defensive pokemon.Gengar as a starting off pokemon.Blissey as a special wall,Skarmory/Steelix/Donphan as a physical wall.It's up to you though.

Skarmory@Leftovers
~Drill Peck
~Curse/Thief
~Rest
~Roar

Steelix@Leftovers
~Earthquake
~Rock Slide
~Rest
~Roar

Donphan@Leftovers
~Earthquake
~Ancientpower/Hidden Power Rock/Rapid Spin
~Rest
~Roar

Blissey@Leftovers
~Ice Beam
~Thunderbolt/Thunder Wave/Light Screen
~Softboiled
~Heal Bell

Thanks, that's very good advice. :)
I do have some questions thought:
I like the Skarmory but does it really know roar?
If reversal is removed from heracross there's no fighting type attack anymore so no (good) way to counter noramal types.
There's also no hazer if Haze is removed from Gengar/Crobat.

I see the p-hazers you suggest but they are quite slow and a sweeper could ohko them if attack connects. I understand that surf/Thunderbolt has more acc but i like to take the risk so I use Hydro/Thunder instead.

Since Lugia and Golduck have Psychic I thought I needed a grass move for Celebi, it works well with it's other attacks too.
 

Blaziken108

Elite4 Master
I always use my Feraligator with red gyrados,noctowl,suicune,lugia,and a gengar. ive never been beat with them:)
 

.TraX.

Bad and Nationwide
Celebi @ leftovers
Leech seed
Recover
Giga drain
Heal bell
~ Yep, Celebii is just a wall anyways so his offensive moves don't matter.

Heracross @ leftovers
Megahorn
Reversal
Counter
Earthquake
~ Rest and Sleep talk is infinately superiour to reversal and counter, given a flyer will 1shot hera without curse, don't even bother with counter. Reversal doesn't counter normals very well anyway.

Starmie @ Brightpowder
Recover
Thunder
Ice beam
Hydro pump
~ Get Surf over Hydro Pump, and if you can go with thunderbolt or Thunder Wave over Thunder (this team requires more para support).

Lugia @ Scope lens
Aeroblast
Recover
Hydro pump
Psychic
~ If you run curse over Hydro Pump, you may be very surprised by the result.

Ho-oh @ Quick claw
Sacred fire
Recover
Earthquake
Thunderbolt
~ Looks about right.


I picked the three of your remaining pokemon to fill out the team.


Gengar @ Quick claw
Destiny bond
Protect
Confuse ray
Haze or Toxic?
~ Try Destiny Bond, Thunderbolt, Confuse Ray and Psychic, covers most things and d-bond lets you be as ******* to the end.

Electrode @ polkadot bow
Explosion
Protect
Thunder wave
Thunderbolt
~ Reflect over Protect so you can use him as support, I recommend starting with this guy.

Machamp @ Black belt
Cross chop
Earthquake
Rock slide
Flamethrower
~ Fire Blast PLEASE, flamethrower doesn't do enough damage to kill a skarm, and thats what its for.


Overall: assuming you don't use the uber team, you might be in for a rough ride if the opponent brings a standard skarm/bliss setup to the table. Take machamp whatever you do.
 
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