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salaman

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this is my emerald team. untill verry recently(like the start of last week) i knew nothing about ev training so none of my pokemon were trained without ev's. is it worth re-breeding my whole team to get decent natures and proper ev's?

also i am strugling with some items to give some pokemon. any sugestions are apreciated. i have not beaten the elite four yet( i keep failing at wallace)

anyway here is my team:

blaziken@mental herb-mixed sweeper

relaxed nature

cut
blaze kick
dynamapunch
fire blast


peliper@none-tank

hardy nature

protect
rest
fly
aerial ace

absol@kings rock-phisical sweeper

lax nature

swords dance
slash
strength
bite

azumaril@quick claw-special sweeper

timid nature

blizard
rock smash(i know it's rubbish. when i decide on anothe rmove for it this will go)
surf
dive

claydol@none-mixed sweeper

lax nature

psychic
ancient power
earthquake
hyperbeam


ludicolo@none-i messed this one up.it's half mixed sweeper and half annoyer *sigh*

mild nature

secret power
bullet seed
toxic

anyway. help would be nice. they are all level 50 except blaziken(52) i was thinking about adding a salamance in there (i have an untrained bagon)
waterfall
 
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Exel 4.0

Banned
Well... for starters, here's some critisism

THIS TEAM SUCKS, OMG, HOW COULD YOU MAKE SUCH A HORRIBLE TEAM *takes a shot of morphine*

Now for the rating *cracks his knuckles*

blaziken@mental herb-mixed sweeper

relaxed nature

sky uppercut
bulk up
mirror move/ slash (I don't know too much about blazikens moveset)
overheat
There's two reasons not to have a mixed sweeper: #1) You'd have to spread the EV's into attack and special attack #2) Natures don't have anything to pick on. Overheat and psycho boost go past this rule though

peliper@chesto berry-tank

hardy (neutral?) nature

protect
rest
surf
aerial ace (get something to raise defense or special defense if you can)
You have a screwed up choice of pokemon

absol@kings rock-phisical sweeper

lax nature

swords dance
slash
strength
bite
I have almost no knowledge of dark pokemon, so here's my advice: slash and strength are almost the same thing, get rid of slash and bite (and preferably strength) if you want a good physical sweeper

azumaril@quick claw-special sweeper

timid nature

blizard
rock smash(i know it's rubbish. when i decide on anothe rmove for it this will go)
surf
dive
*sigh* why do I bother?

claydol@none-mixed sweeper

lax nature

psychic
ancient power
earthquake
hyperbeam <see this move? Never use it, except maybe on slaking.
sadly, this is the best moveset I've seen

ludicolo@none-i messed this one up.it's half mixed sweeper and half annoyer *sigh*

mild nature

secret power
bullet seed
toxic
---PUT FOURTH MOVE HERE---
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About half way through rating that I realized that if I fully rated it I'd be starting from scratch.

Your main problem is mixing HM moves in there and not being able to tell the diffrence between a physical attack and a special attack.
 
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PUrEHearT

Hyper Coordinator
since our mr.pro didnt rate ur team much at all here i am

salaman said:
this is my emerald team. untill verry recently(like the start of last week) i knew nothing about ev training so none of my pokemon were trained without ev's. is it worth re-breeding my whole team to get decent natures and proper ev's?

also i am strugling with some items to give some pokemon. any sugestions are apreciated. i have not beaten the elite four yet( i keep failing at wallace)

i wonder why?

anyway here is my team:

blaziken@lefties or white herb

adamant nature

sky uppercut
overheat
swords dance
rock slide

peliper@none-tank

hardy nature

protect
rest
fly
aerial ace

dont even USE this....

starmie@lefties/shell bell
modest or timid

surf
T-bolt
Ice Beam
Recover

a much better water pokemon

absol@kings rock-phisical sweeper

lax nature

swords dance
slash
strength
bite

again dont use...

salamence@lefties/shell bell
adamant or jolly

aerial ace
dragon dance
EQ
Rock Slide

azumaril@quick claw-special sweeper

timid nature

blizard
rock smash(i know it's rubbish. when i decide on anothe rmove for it this will go)
surf
dive

i love ur choice of pokemon

claydol@none-mixed sweeper

lax nature

psychic
ancient power
earthquake
hyperbeam

wow.... i love this set

ludicolo@none-i messed this one up.it's half mixed sweeper and half annoyer *sigh*

mild nature

secret power
bullet seed
toxic

wow... an INCOMPLETE SET!!! dies*
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since you dont like me going kaflkdjasklfdj i will say something

get better pokemon like metagross or a wall like ionno skarm

cant beat wallace get an electric pokemon and a metagross with sludge bomb will take care of ludicolo

EDIT: oh yeah most of the positive comments i made are sarcasm
 
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lime_green_hero

The Dancing Cactus
well, you're using some pretty weak pokemon. (no offence) Omit pelliper, azumeril, and preferably absol.

try starmie/milotic/lanturn, some physical sweeper, and maybe skarmkory. Although someone might have a better suggetion than skarmory.
 
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Exel 4.0

Banned
I didn't really do much of a rating job for a very good reason... the only thing I'm good at rating is steel pokemon.

Even I know that this person should start from scratch.
 
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lime_green_hero

The Dancing Cactus
Well yes, metagross would be the best steel type, but he hasn't beaten the elite four yet, which you need to do to get metagross. I meant before he beat the elite four.
 
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Air Dragon

Ha, ha... not.
weeel, i'm not sure what to say... a tricky team in my opinion, too many electric/ grass weaknesses though it's only in your own interest to listen to that! my team were nearly all in the 50-52 range too when i first beat wallace, so i'll give some recommendations :

blaziken@charcoal/black belt

relaxed nature (this only matters in the battle palace)

slash/ overheat (though never use before flamethrower/ blaze kick)
blaze kick
dynamapunch
flamethrower

peliper@sharp beak/ leftovers/ quick claw (if available)

advice: boost speed ( a lot) and Sp. Defense

protect
supersonic (first move in battle. follow with double team/attract, then protect or fly)
fly/ wing attack/steel wing
double team/attract

absol@kings rock/ blackglasses (recommended)

lax nature

aerial ace (for fighting pokemon)
slash
shadow ball
bite

azumaril@quick claw

timid nature

blizzard/ ice beam
try strength
surf/ hydro pump
dig (for electric foes)

claydol@hard stone/soft sand

lax nature

psychic
ancient power
earthquake
hyperbeam (use only in emergency/desperate times or when sure an ohko can be achieved/ opponent is not rock/steel/ghost and has hp around 35% or less)


ludicolo@miracle seed

mild nature

brick break
giga drain
toxic(if with Rain Dish ability)/ blizzard/ ice beam (whichever Azumarill doesn't know)
facade / waterfall

if you're insistent on keeping this team, i'd understand as i hate using what everybody says is strong too and don't. i follow my gut and put my best into raising what all say are weak, to make them strong. (to make you feel better, i used azumarill and blaziken too and won, so don't give up. Hear that Exel 4.0? IN YOUR FACE!) i dont bother with EV's either; vitamins, experience with the pokemon you raise and trust always work (god, now i sound like a loony fanatic.) My advice is: go for accuracy, not power. against the elite, hitting hard and fast has always worked for me, no matter which version i play. it's also no good knowing powerful moves if they have a high chance of missing.
Now, about salamence; training him is tricky, but ensure that if you do, try the following moveset (i will too.):

Salamence @ king's rock

nature? dunno, don't care.
Advice: if pelipper doesn't work out, switch salamence with it.

Flamethrower
Headbutt ( hence the king's rock)
Dragonbreath/ Dragon Claw
Crunch
Note: a flygon with this same moveset would do nicely, too in place of claydol. A heracross with the below moveset would work well too in place of pelipper:

Heracross @ quick claw

Advice: build heracross's speed and defense
Megahorn
Endure
Reversal
Rock Tomb

in conclusion, level up by about five or ten levels before going back in against him (wallace, i mean), uless you plan to use them in the battle frontier lv 50 division after the league. Later!
 
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Air Dragon

Ha, ha... not.
weeel, i'm not sure what to say... a tricky team in my opinion, too many electric/ grass weaknesses though it's only in your own interest to listen to that! my team were nearly all in the 50-52 range too when i first beat wallace, so i'll give some recommendations :

blaziken@charcoal/black belt

relaxed nature (this only matters in the battle palace)

slash/ overheat (though never use before flamethrower/ blaze kick)
blaze kick
dynamapunch
flamethrower

peliper@sharp beak/ leftovers/ quick claw (if available)

advice: boost speed ( a lot) and Sp. Defense

protect
supersonic (first move in battle. follow with double team/attract, then protect or fly)
fly/ wing attack/steel wing
double team/attract

absol@kings rock/ blackglasses (recommended)

lax nature

aerial ace (for fighting pokemon)
slash
shadow ball
bite

azumaril@quick claw

timid nature

blizzard/ ice beam
try strength
surf/ hydro pump
dig (for electric foes)

claydol@hard stone/soft sand

lax nature

psychic
ancient power
earthquake
hyperbeam (use only in emergency/desperate times or when sure an ohko can be achieved/ opponent is not rock/steel/ghost and has hp around 35% or less)


ludicolo@miracle seed

mild nature

brick break
giga drain
toxic(if with Rain Dish ability)/ blizzard/ ice beam (whichever Azumarill doesn't know)
facade / waterfall

if you're insistent on keeping this team, i'd understand as i hate using what everybody says is strong too and don't. i follow my gut and put my best into raising what all say are weak, to make them strong. (to make you feel better, i used azumarill and blaziken too and won, so don't give up. Hear that Exel 4.0? IN YOUR FACE!) i dont bother with EV's either; vitamins, experience with the pokemon you raise and trust always work (god, now i sound like a loony fanatic.) My advice is: go for accuracy, not power. against the elite, hitting hard and fast has always worked for me, no matter which version i play. it's also no good knowing powerful moves if they have a high chance of missing.
Now, about salamence; training him is tricky, but ensure that if you do, try the following moveset (i will too.):

Salamence @ king's rock

nature? dunno, don't care.
Advice: if pelipper doesn't work out, switch salamence with it.

Flamethrower
Headbutt ( hence the king's rock)
Dragonbreath/ Dragon Claw
Crunch
Note: a flygon with this same moveset would do nicely, too in place of claydol. A heracross with the below moveset would work well too in place of pelipper:

Heracross @ quick claw/silk scarf

Advice: build heracross's speed and defense
Megahorn
Endure
Reversal
Rock Tomb/Facade (if with the Guts ability)

in conclusion, level up by about five or ten levels before going back in against him (wallace, i mean), uless you plan to use them in the battle frontier lv 50 division after the league. Later!
 
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Air Dragon

Ha, ha... not.
My honest to God opinion

weeel, i'm not sure what to say... a tricky team in my opinion, too many electric/ grass weaknesses though it's only in your own interest to listen to that! my team were nearly all in the 50-52 range too when i first beat wallace, so i'll give some recommendations :

blaziken@charcoal/black belt

relaxed nature (this only matters in the battle palace)

slash/ overheat (though never use before flamethrower/ blaze kick)
blaze kick
dynamapunch
flamethrower

peliper@sharp beak/ leftovers/ quick claw (if available)

advice: boost speed ( a lot) and Sp. Defense

protect
supersonic (first move in battle. follow with double team/attract, then protect or fly)
fly/ wing attack/steel wing
double team/attract

absol@kings rock/ blackglasses (recommended)

lax nature

aerial ace (for fighting pokemon)
slash
shadow ball
bite

azumaril@quick claw

timid nature

blizzard/ ice beam
try strength
surf/ hydro pump
dig (for electric foes)

claydol@hard stone/soft sand

lax nature

psychic
ancient power
earthquake
hyperbeam (use only in emergency/desperate times or when sure an ohko can be achieved/ opponent is not rock/steel/ghost and has hp around 35% or less)


ludicolo@miracle seed

mild nature

brick break
giga drain
toxic(if with Rain Dish ability)/ blizzard/ ice beam (whichever Azumarill doesn't know)
facade / waterfall

if you're insistent on keeping this team, i'd understand as i hate using what everybody says is strong too and don't. i follow my gut and put my best into raising what all say are weak, to make them strong. (to make you feel better, i used azumarill and blaziken too and won, so don't give up. Hear that Exel 4.0? IN YOUR FACE!) i dont bother with EV's either; vitamins, experience with the pokemon you raise and trust always work (god, now i sound like a loony fanatic.) My advice is: go for accuracy, not power. against the elite, hitting hard and fast has always worked for me, no matter which version i play. it's also no good knowing powerful moves if they have a high chance of missing.
Now, about salamence; training him is tricky, but ensure that if you do, try the following moveset (i will too.):

Salamence @ king's rock

nature? dunno, don't care.
Advice: if pelipper doesn't work out, switch salamence with it.

Flamethrower
Headbutt ( hence the king's rock)
Dragonbreath/ Dragon Claw
Crunch
Note: a flygon with this same moveset would do nicely, too in place of claydol. A heracross with the below moveset would work well too in place of pelipper:

Heracross @ quick claw/silk scarf

Advice: build heracross's speed and defense
Megahorn
Endure
Reversal
Rock Tomb/Facade (if with the Guts ability)

in conclusion, level up by about five or ten levels before going back in against him (wallace, i mean), uless you plan to use them in the battle frontier lv 50 division after the league. Later!
 
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Air Dragon

Ha, ha... not.
My opinion

Weeell, i'm not sure what to say... a tricky team in my opinion, too many electric/ grass weaknesses though it's only in your own interest to listen to that! my team were nearly all in the 50-52 range too when i first beat wallace, so i'll give some recommendations :

blaziken@charcoal/black belt

relaxed nature (this only matters in the battle palace)

slash/ overheat (though never use before flamethrower/ blaze kick)
blaze kick
dynamapunch
flamethrower

peliper@sharp beak/ leftovers/ quick claw (if available)

advice: boost speed ( a lot) and Sp. Defense

protect
supersonic (first move in battle. follow with double team/attract, then protect or fly)
fly/ wing attack/steel wing
double team/attract

absol@kings rock/ blackglasses (recommended)

lax nature

aerial ace (for fighting pokemon)
slash
shadow ball
bite

azumaril@quick claw

timid nature

blizzard/ ice beam
try strength
surf/ hydro pump
dig (for electric foes)

claydol@hard stone/soft sand

lax nature

psychic
ancient power
earthquake
hyperbeam (use only in emergency/desperate times or when sure an ohko can be achieved/ opponent is not rock/steel/ghost and has hp around 35% or less)


ludicolo@miracle seed

mild nature

brick break
giga drain
toxic(if with Rain Dish ability)/ blizzard/ ice beam (whichever Azumarill doesn't know)
facade / waterfall

if you're insistent on keeping this team, i'd understand as i hate using what everybody says is strong too and don't. i follow my gut and put my best into raising what all say are weak, to make them strong. (to make you feel better, i used azumarill and blaziken too and won, so don't give up. Hear that Exel 4.0? IN YOUR FACE!) i dont bother with EV's either; vitamins, experience with the pokemon you raise and trust always work (god, now i sound like a loony fanatic.) My advice is: go for accuracy, not power. against the elite, hitting hard and fast has always worked for me, no matter which version i play. it's also no good knowing powerful moves if they have a high chance of missing.
Now, about salamence; training him is tricky, but ensure that if you do, try the following moveset (i will too.):

Salamence @ king's rock

nature? dunno, don't care.
Advice: if pelipper doesn't work out, switch salamence with it.

Flamethrower
Headbutt ( hence the king's rock)
Dragonbreath/ Dragon Claw
Crunch
Note: a flygon with this same moveset would do nicely, too in place of claydol. A heracross with the below moveset would work well too in place of pelipper:

Heracross @ quick claw/silk scarf

Advice: build heracross's speed and defense
Megahorn
Endure
Reversal
Rock Tomb/Facade (if with the Guts ability)

in conclusion, level up by about five or ten levels before going back in against him (wallace, i mean), uless you plan to use them in the battle frontier lv 50 division after the league. Later!
 
A

Air Dragon

Ha, ha... not.
My honest to God opinion

weeel, i'm not sure what to say... a tricky team in my opinion, too many electric/ grass weaknesses though it's only in your own interest to listen to that! my team were nearly all in the 50-52 range too when i first beat wallace, so i'll give some recommendations :

blaziken@charcoal/black belt

relaxed nature (this only matters in the battle palace)

slash/ overheat (though never use before flamethrower/ blaze kick)
blaze kick
dynamapunch
flamethrower

peliper@sharp beak/ leftovers/ quick claw (if available)

advice: boost speed ( a lot) and Sp. Defense

protect
supersonic (first move in battle. follow with double team/attract, then protect or fly)
fly/ wing attack/steel wing
double team/attract

absol@kings rock/ blackglasses (recommended)

lax nature

aerial ace (for fighting pokemon)
slash
shadow ball
bite

azumaril@quick claw

timid nature

blizzard/ ice beam
try strength
surf/ hydro pump
dig (for electric foes)

claydol@hard stone/soft sand

lax nature

psychic
ancient power
earthquake
hyperbeam (use only in emergency/desperate times or when sure an ohko can be achieved/ opponent is not rock/steel/ghost and has hp around 35% or less)


ludicolo@miracle seed

mild nature

brick break
giga drain
toxic(if with Rain Dish ability)/ blizzard/ ice beam (whichever Azumarill doesn't know)
facade / waterfall

if you're insistent on keeping this team, i'd understand as i hate using what everybody says is strong too and don't. i follow my gut and put my best into raising what all say are weak, to make them strong. (to make you feel better, i used azumarill and blaziken too and won, so don't give up. Hear that Exel 4.0? IN YOUR FACE!) i dont bother with EV's either; vitamins, experience with the pokemon you raise and trust always work (god, now i sound like a loony fanatic.) My advice is: go for accuracy, not power. against the elite, hitting hard and fast has always worked for me, no matter which version i play. it's also no good knowing powerful moves if they have a high chance of missing.
Now, about salamence; training him is tricky, but ensure that if you do, try the following moveset (i will too.):

Salamence @ king's rock

nature? dunno, don't care.
Advice: if pelipper doesn't work out, switch salamence with it.

Flamethrower
Headbutt ( hence the king's rock)
Dragonbreath/ Dragon Claw
Crunch
Note: a flygon with this same moveset would do nicely, too in place of claydol. A heracross with the below moveset would work well too in place of pelipper:

Heracross @ quick claw/silk scarf

Advice: build heracross's speed and defense
Megahorn
Endure
Reversal
Rock Tomb/Facade (if with the Guts ability)

in conclusion, level up by about five or ten levels before going back in against him (wallace, i mean), uless you plan to use them in the battle frontier lv 50 division after the league. Later!
 
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John's Knight

Well-Known Member
^Shiny Mightyena, you have posted 5 Times!!!
Still, everyone forgot that you can only have metagross (beldum, in fact) AFTER you defeat the elite 4 and he hasn't do it yet!!!
here are my opinions: can't say anything, because they're very bad, to not say s***, but get rid of pelliper and azumarill. absol, if you put a good moveset, will be great. Blaziken should be a physical sweeper. Listen to the others opinions.
Hope i've helped!!!

~~PokeKnight~~
 
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Air Dragon

Ha, ha... not.
uh, oh, i double-post again... Sorry, Serebii! i was in a rush, and i thought my browser was messing up! Later!
 
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Air Dragon

Ha, ha... not.
no, No , NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I'm soooooo sorry! Thanks for pointing out my mistake, PokeKnight! really, thanks a million (no sarcasm)! Everybody, pls check out my fanfic and help Glitch give me the boost to write better! GLITCH, YOU'RE GREAT! okay, sorry again ,all and Later!
 
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Air Dragon

Ha, ha... not.
oh, my fic ,by the way, is "The Corei Quest". Okay now i'm really, really outta this thread for now... Later!
 
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aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
lol just stfu and stop suggesting double team, please die
 
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salaman

Guest
gah! i messed up big time...

eep.

i'll put salamance in place of absol(with shiny mightyena's move set)

i'll keep blaziken but with pureheart's set

swap peliper for mightyena's heracross

i intend to swap ludicolo for metagross after the elite four anyway(meteor mash/metal claw/earthquake/?????) but a skarmory may be a good idea in the meantime


cladol i'l keep but swap hyper beam for explosion maby?

and azumaril swaped for a starmie (as sugested by pureheart)or a milotic

thanks to those of you who were polite :) and i didn't realise i duble posted it... oops.
 
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aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
if you use any of shiny mightyenas' suggestions you should admit yourself to a psychiatric institute
 
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