n00bish moveset. omg

[Falthor]

(Lots of timed out connections due to rush)

Tried to get your attention, huh, guys? Well, it most likely is a n00b moveset, and I am willing to accept any and all suggestions for my team. It's for a tournament I'm entering. The rules are I am prohibited to have any Pokémon that is considered Overused. I am allowed Borderline Pokémon, but no more than three, and allowed as many UUs and NUs that I want. Why? Because this tourney is for the thinkers who actually use strategy and semi-power to win. That is all. So, keep that in mind when critiquing, okay? Here's mah team. Oh, and also, I suck at determining EVs, so really help me out here on this one (I just used Smogon, as it is damn good). Recommend anything. No strings attached. Okay, enough rambling. xD

Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 50 HP / 208 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Sleep Powder
- Sunny Day
- Solarbeam

Manectric @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Static
EVs: 44 HP / 220 Spd / 244 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Crunch
- HP Ice
- Substitute

I also have a backup Ampharos, as well. Which Pokémon should I use to best benefit me?

Ampharos @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- HP Ice
- Focus Punch (.....)

Octillery @ Choice Band
Trait: Suction Cups
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
- Sludge Bomb

Houndoom @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Crunch
- HP Grass
- Beat Up

Swellow @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 Speed / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Aerial Ace
- Steel Wing
- Return

Nidoking @ Choice Band
Trait: Poison Point
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Megahorn
- Sludge Bomb
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

All right. Any comments will be obliged.

 

[Havak]

It's not too bad really, get the Choice Band off of Octillery as it's not helping though. Choice Band only increases Physical Attack power.

IMO you need more defences. I'd suggest Hypno as a Special Wall, which can also pass around Wish too.

Aggron or Golem would be the best physical walls you'll be allowed to pick (most likely).

Swellow wants HP Ground, but Dodrio can do it all better, even if it's slower.

I'd go for Manectric over Ampharos too.

Hidden Power Fire/Ice are options on Exeggutor.

I'd probably use Will-O-Wisp on Houndoom as well, due to your not so great defence and the fact that the special walls in UU are pretty much all Psychic types anyway.

Sorry about the random order of things, but meh ._.

 

[Falthor]

All right, so I've fixed all of my errors, but what to replace with Hypno? I replaced Nidoking with Aggron for power and Defense, but I still lack something that can ward off a couple of the Borderlines in this tournament...

Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 50 HP / 208 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Sleep Powder
- Sunny Day
- Solarbeam

Manectric @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Static
EVs: 44 HP / 220 Spd / 244 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Crunch
- HP Ice
- Substitute

Octillery @ Leftovers
Trait: Suction Cups
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
- Sludge Bomb

Houndoom @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Crunch
- HP Grass
- Will-O-Wisp

Swellow @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 Speed / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Aerial Ace
- Steel Wing
- HP Ground

Aggron @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 160 Spd / 252 Atk / 96 HP (???)
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- HP Steel
- Rock Slide

 

[aragornbird]

Replace Octillery with Hypno.

lol @HP Steel. Focus Punch on Aggron.

Explosion/HP Fire on Exeggutor.

 

[Havak]

Aggron would be better with something like this...

Aggron (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 228 HP / 176 Atk / 106 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Rock Slide
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave

And yeah I agree with AB, take out Octillery for Hypno.

Octillery is only useful as a Baton Pass recipiant, thanks to suction cups.

 

[DoubleX]

All right, so I've fixed all of my errors, but what to replace with Hypno? I replaced Nidoking with Aggron for power and Defense, but I still lack something that can ward off a couple of the Borderlines in this tournament...

Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 50 HP / 208 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Sleep Powder
- Sunny Day
- Solarbeam

HP Fire over Psychic imo.

Manectric @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Static
EVs: 44 HP / 220 Spd / 244 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Crunch
- HP Ice
- Substitute

Fine. I don't have Netbattle in front of me and thus can't check the actual HP number, but make sure your HP is divisible by 4 so that the Petaya activates on the third sub. Then this sweeps a lot of stuff.

Octillery @ Leftovers
Trait: Suction Cups
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
- Sludge Bomb

This isn't doing much for your team, I agree. If you want to put Hypno here, I reckon Seismic Toss/Wish/Thunder Wave/Reflect. Or if you want a Special sponge you can also use Grumpig, in which case go Sub/Psychic/HP Dark/CM.

Houndoom @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Crunch
- HP Grass
- Will-O-Wisp

Fine, but I don't like pinch berries without Sub or Endure; it's too random. I reckon Leftovers, or if you really don't want this thing statused you can also go Lum.

Swellow @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 Speed / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Aerial Ace
- Steel Wing
- HP Ground

Fine.

Aggron @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 160 Spd / 252 Atk / 96 HP (???)
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- HP Steel
- Rock Slide

CB Aggron? That's new. I would, however, suggest you make this slot your physical wall. You can use Aggron for that if you like, but be wary of Fighting and Ground moves (switch for Hypno and Swellow respectively if you see one of them coming). For wall Aggron go with what Havak posted.

Comments in bold.

 

[Marauder Artemis]

Ice Beam can work on Havak's Aggron > FPunch to hit Gligar well

 

[magnemiteZ]

Why? Because this tourney is for the thinkers who actually use strategy and semi-power to win.

I laughed at that.

Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 50 HP / 208 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Sleep Powder
- Sunny Day
- Solarbeam

Psychic ._.
You need HP Fire, else Grass and steel types will beat you. Consider Wish though.

Manectric @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Static
EVs: 44 HP / 220 Spd / 244 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Crunch
- HP Ice
- Substitute

Crunch is meh. If you need to hit things like Hypno, you're better off Toxicing it.

Octillery @ Leftovers
Trait: Suction Cups
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
- Sludge Bomb

Why exactly do you need max Atk when you're only running one Physical attack?
<logic>
And why are you using sludge bomb exactly? Fire/Water/Ice covers pretty much everything. Rock Blast is cool, and if not, use double edge.

EVs: 180 HP / 76 Atk / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)

Houndoom @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Crunch
- HP Grass
- Will-O-Wisp

No Pursuit is bg. to be honest, when you have Crunch, I find HP Crass to be a bit meh. Seeing as swampert can't swap in much to a Crunch, and doesn't exist in your metagame.
Quag has **** SDef, and will probably be 2HKO'd by Crunch. Same again with most other Water types.
Will-o-Wisp is crap as well.

Overheat or Fire Blast / Crunch / HP Ice / Pursuit is good.

EVs: 76 HP / 180 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

Swellow @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 Speed / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Aerial Ace
- Steel Wing
- HP Ground

Return or Double Edge over Facade.
Adamant.

Aggron @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 160 Spd / 252 Atk / 96 HP (???)
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- HP Steel
- Rock Slide

CB Aggron is something I used to use a lot in uu ^_^

Aggron (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 164 HP / 176 Atk / 80 Def / 88 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Rock Slide
- Iron Tail
- Focus Punch
- Blizzard / Double-Edge

that was cool.

 

[Falthor]

Fighting_Master, this question is directed at you: why in the hell do you want inaccurate moves of the wrong type on Aggron? Iron Tail has 75% accuracy, and Blizzard is not even of its type, and if you may have paid attention, I already have Double-Edge on it.

 

[PatTar]

iron tail is much better than HP Steel, though steel is a crappy attakcing type. i'd suggest EQ but FP covers what it does anyway. Blizzard 2KOs Gligar with those EVs. with about 40 SAtk EVs and a Brave Nature, Blizzard is an OHKO.

 

[magnemiteZ]

BAD!

Steel is an incredible typing, and when it has a CB, it does **** loads to everything.

Blizzard, like was mentioned, is there only for the purpose of scaring Gligar shitless.

 

[aragornbird]

Fighting_Master, this question is directed at you: why in the hell do you want inaccurate moves of the wrong type on Aggron? Iron Tail has 75% accuracy, and Blizzard is not even of its type, and if you may have paid attention, I already have Double-Edge on it.

Iron Tail is like a less accurate Meteor Mash and as long as it has STAB, it can hurt a lot of stuff in UU. Besides, if you can predict with Focus Punch, you don't need Earthquake since FP does more damage.

Ice Beam can't OKO standard Gligar, one of Aggron's biggest counters unless it has some SAtk EVs (which are a waste). Blizzard can OKO, allowing you to invest EVs in more important stats. CBAggron forces a lot of switches, so it's okay to use lower accuracy moves if you can afford it. Also, Gligar means bg for your entire team, especially if it gets a Salac Boost (which reminds me of your 3x Ground weak).

 

[magnemiteZ]

Aggron is a Pokemon that uses it's STAB'd Rock Moves and Focus Punches the most. You won't need the other attacks as much because Rocks and Fight are like an anti-metagame thing.
It's STAB'd Iron Tail is brilliant though.

 

[Falthor]

Oof, forgot about my three-ground weakness. Well, I'm gonna need something to get rid of Gligar, and I don't think Aggron's the best choice for that...I think another Pokémon, perhaps of an Ice-type trait? Maybe Jynx? It's Psychic secondary type could also scare Gligar really shitless...but I'm unsure at the moment...

And Ice-types will give me a three Rock-type weakness, and Jynx will make my team 4 borderlines, which will kick me out of the tournament...damn, this is hard.

 

[Marauder Artemis]

Walrein~~~

 

[aipomkong]

PROTIP: Houndoom and Exeggutor are OU

 

[Falthor]

nooblet: I go by the Smogon Tiers, and they are considered Borderline.
Marauder: I'll consider Walrein. But that will give me a 3x weakness to Electric. XD

 

[aragornbird]

BLs are still looked down upon in true UU battles (and banned in UU tournies).

 

[Lie]

The rules are I am prohibited to have any Pokémon that is considered Overused. I am allowed Borderline Pokémon, but no more than three, and allowed as many UUs and NUs that I want.

I don't think this is a real UU team.

 

[Pokerob]

It's not too bad really, get the Choice Band off of Octillery as it's not helping though. Choice Band only increases Physical Attack power.

Choice band you'll find uber on lucario or machamp.