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Naruto and Boruto Discussion Thread

SharpedoX

Treinador Áureo
One of the deceased Kages would be nice. Imagine bringing back the Third Kazekage with his Iron Sand, Yagura or even Gaara's father (!)

Why can't he revive the Sage? We know the circumstances in which he died, but his body is perfectly able to be summoned, isn't it? Then again, if it were, shinobi would have done so long ago and break the doubt of the Sage's existence.
 

Lorde

Banned
Gaara's father never got much screentime did he? But according to the anime, he was weak since Orochimaru stabbed him with Kusanagi and he just died. Maybe all the original Kage from every village? That would be nice. I don't want Yagura to appear since it isn't confirmed that he's dead. Maybe he's still alive somewhere, somehow. I know extracting a Bijuu usually kills the Jinchuriki but since Yagura could control the Sanbi, maybe he's an exception (and Killer Bee I hope...).
 

lucky_u

Well-Known Member
One of the deceased Kages would be nice. Imagine bringing back the Third Kazekage with his Iron Sand, Yagura or even Gaara's father (!)

Why can't he revive the Sage? We know the circumstances in which he died, but his body is perfectly able to be summoned, isn't it? Then again, if it were, shinobi would have done so long ago and break the doubt of the Sage's existence.
I'm guessing the Sage was the one Kabuto last summoned.
Since Kages already been summoned before by Orochimaru, I guess that is the one that could surprise Mandara.
It is still a guess, though.
 

Lorde

Banned
I'm guessing the Sage was the one Kabuto last summoned.
Since Kages already been summoned before by Orochimaru, I guess that is the one that could surprise Mandara.
It is still a guess, though.
Well he said Kage which refers to any leader of the 5 great nations (Iwagakure, Sunagakure, Konohagakure, Kirigakure, Kumogakure). Yes the Hokage from the past are an unlikely bet but there are several Kage in other villages that could pose a threat.
 

lucky_u

Well-Known Member
Well he said Kage which refers to any leader of the 5 great nations (Iwagakure, Sunagakure, Konohagakure, Kirigakure, Kumogakure). Yes the Hokage from the past are an unlikely bet but there are several Kage in other villages that could pose a threat.
He would have to summon several Kages to actually convince Madara.
We are talking space-bending Kage here, so unless the person is beyond Kage level/capable post threat towards Madara, Madara won't be shocked.
So, personally I think, a Kage isn't who Kabuto summoned.
 

TsukiMirage

Rikudou Master
Actually, Hashirama would be someone Madara would fear, Seeing as he was able to beat Madara at his peak and now that Madara is nothing but a shadow of himself, Hashirama would be an even bigger threat.
 

~Heaven Help Us~

Well-Known Member
I doubt that the deceased Jinchuuriki would do him as good as say, a deceased Hokage or White Fang. (The latter would be an interesting twist, but it likely won't happen)



Yet if Madara already has Izuna's eyes, then he shouldn't have to worry. Even if Izuna's powerful while blind, Madara has the advantage.
So? Itachi's there. Sasuke has his eyes remember.

Tsuki, I completely forgot about Hashirama!
 

theforgottensoldier

divide and conquer!
I love how this mysterious summon by Kabuto is throwing everyone for a loop. It could be anyone but I see it most likely being the Sage of six paths, Minato, Hashirama, Madara's body, Izuna, or some new character. Other choices that I would like to see happening but are highly unlikely are Yagura, Shisui, Jiraiya, or Kushina. Ah man, I can't wait to figure out!

Also I have been wondering about this impure resurrection jutsu that Kabuto used. How far does it go in bringing the body back to life. If you think about it the five guys he summoned each have some issues. Pain doesn't have his other sixth paths with him, Kakuzu doesn't have his other elemental lives with him, Itachi doesn't have his mangekyo eyes, Sasori doesn't have any puppets, and deidara doesn't have any clay. So with all of that in mind what exactly are they going to be able to do?
 

Lorde

Banned
Hashirama cannot be summoned since his soul doesn't exist anymore. It was sealed so he's out of the picture.

There isn't anyone left really, but it looks like Madara was more surprised that someone found that corpse rather than being afraid of that person's power. Could it be the the body of the real Madara while this Madara is a copycat?
 

SharpedoX

Treinador Áureo
You're right, 4th KIRA, we can scratch Hashirama from the picture. He had his time.

I just hope we get to see a Gai vs. Kisame sometime during the war. Gai needs to do something and I think this battle will push him to his very limit (in which he opens the Seven Gates) and dies as a result. I don't see Kirabi or the Raikage finishing him off.
 

TsukiMirage

Rikudou Master
The reason I said Hashirama is because of two reason: First is because Kabuto stated that he has gain a greater mastery of the technique then Orochimaru had. As far as we know and seen, Orochimaru's usage of the technique was the most it could do. So Kabuto must have gain the skill to do something beyond just summoning the dead souls. I think summoning the souls from inside the shinigami would suffice. The second reason is when Orochimaru used the technique against Sarutobi, It was implied that he summoned Minato along with the First and second Hokage, And that Sarutobi was scared enough to try and stop it. Now since Sarutobi knew Minato's soul was in the shinigami, He would have had nothing to fear from Minato's corpse, Unless such a technique is capable of summoning a soul regardless from where it is.

Basically, I don't think that just because he's in the shinigami, Hashirama can't come back. Being able to summon from the shinigami would also explain how Madara plans on bring back the Juubi, Since for now it can't come back completely.
 

Shadow Lucario

Lone Vanguard
I'm guessing it to be one of two people; Hashirama or Madara's brother. Hashirama makes sense because of what Tsuki said earlier and Izuna makes sense because once you summon the soul of someone they regain their memories. Izuna could have told Kabuto that Madara forcefully took his eyes. Kabuto did say, "I haven't told anyone yet." after all.
 

Lorde

Banned
I'm guessing it to be one of two people; Hashirama or Madara's brother. Hashirama makes sense because of what Tsuki said earlier and Izuna makes sense because once you summon the soul of someone they regain their memories. Izuna could have told Kabuto that Madara forcefully took his eyes. Kabuto did say, "I haven't told anyone yet." after all.
Makes sense but why would the fact that Madara took Izuna's eyes by force make a difference? Sasuke probably knows that since he's smart enough not to be totally deceived.
 

Shadow Lucario

Lone Vanguard
Makes sense but why would the fact that Madara took Izuna's eyes by force make a difference? Sasuke probably knows that since he's smart enough not to be totally deceived.
If Sasuke learns he was lying to him about his brother giving him his eyes then he will more than likely start to question the other things Madara has told him, like maybe the attack on Konoha 16 years before the series
 

Lorde

Banned
If Sasuke learns he was lying to him about his brother giving him his eyes then he will more than likely start to question the other things Madara has told him, like maybe the attack on Konoha 16 years before the series
But like I said and as we've seen already, Sasuke knows Madara lied about certain things. Sasuke doesn't trust Madara fully which is why Sasuke is just using Madara to achieve his goals. When Madara talked about Izuna's eyes and the Kyuubi attack, Sasuke didn't look convinced. He only believes that Itachi killed the clan on Konoha's orders.
 

TsukiMirage

Rikudou Master
The revelation that Madara took Izuna's eyes isn't a threat to Madara now. Sasuke would trust anything from Kabuto less then he would from Madara at the moment. Plus Sasuke's in this for his own goals. Madara's past actions are of a little concern to him now.
 

Torpoleon

Well-Known Member
Gee, I wonder who that unidentified person was. We'll find out soon, I hope. Things are starting to get interesting. I'd like to see if Naruto can concentrate and fully control the Nine-Tails.
 

ryodragonite

Aura Fist
Gee, I wonder who that unidentified person was. We'll find out soon, I hope. Things are starting to get interesting. I'd like to see if Naruto can concentrate and fully control the Nine-Tails.
The three people Im thinking of would be either the first hokage a clone of Madara himself or an unfinished puppet of Sasuke. Why is the Raikage in chrge of everything but now since tsunades back we can acually see how good she is because shes only fought Oorochimaru and she was pretty good there but she is hokage now.
 

Torpoleon

Well-Known Member
The three people Im thinking of would be either the first hokage a clone of Madara himself or an unfinished puppet of Sasuke.
Interesting. As crazy as this sounds, I thought for a second that it was the Sage of the Six Paths but clones also work since Madara did call Kabuto a madman.
 
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