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Naruto and Boruto Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Alternate Animé & Manga Discussion' started by EmberStar the Blaziken, Oct 29, 2006.

  1. TsukiMirage

    TsukiMirage Rikudou Master

    It's not about whether or not they could be useful. Akatsuki is only fighting the villages because they are trying to get to the two Jinchuuriki. Once they get their hands on them, They've won. So putting the two in a position where they could be taken is a foolish mistake. This isn't like the Nagato invasion where there was no one else that could fight on his level. We now have the combine forces of all five major villages, Meaning there are plenty of ninjas on the level of those two that can fight in their place. So there's no need or reason to put them at risk.
     
  2. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    Those spoilers seems fishy but whatever. I can't believe Naruto's going to train even before we see what new powers Sasuke has with his EMS. I wonder if there's a new technique that awakens with the EMS. Didn't Madara control the Kyuubi with his?
     
  3. HoennMaster

    HoennMaster Well-Known Member

    Killer Bee was defeated by a clone of Kisame, just one tiny part of Akatsuki's fighting force. If he couldn't take down a clone then the combined ninja forces aren't going to do much either then just die. Its a lose lose either way.
     
  4. uber gon

    uber gon Accept Change

    If the Kyubi gets a chance to actually appear more physically I wonder if his personality will change to become something more similar to this guy.
     
  5. 7 tyranitars

    7 tyranitars Well-Known Member

    if those spoillers are true then it would most likely mean that naruto and killer bee are gonna fight kisame
     
  6. TsukiMirage

    TsukiMirage Rikudou Master

    Spoiler script and raw are out.
    491 人柱力監禁!!
    491: Jinchuriki Confinement!!
    目指せ九尾のコントロール!!
    Aiming to control the Kyubi!!

    蔵蛙『コラ!もっと大きゅーに口を開けー!!』
    Scroll Frog: Here! Open your mouth wider!!
    ナルト涙をながしながら『なんで口から… ヌルヌルして気持ちわり~』
    Naruto with tears streaming down his face: Why from the mouth...this is gross~
    蔵蛙『蔵入りさせる気あるんかあ!?』
    Scroll Frog: Do you want to store this or not!?
    フカサク、蔵蛙キック ナルトの口に蔵蛙が入る
    Fukusaku kicks the scroll frog into Naruto's mouth.

    ナルト『うおえ~~~』
    Naruto: Uogh~
    フカサク『蔵入りOKじゃ! これから木の葉へナルトちゃんを戻すけんの!』
    Fukusaku: OK, it's in! From here you should be heading back to Konoha!
    ナルト『タコを探せばいんだよな… どこにいるタコなんだ?もっとヒントとかねーの?』
    Naruto: I should start searching for the octopus huh...where in the world is this octopus? Some sort of hint would have been nice.
    ジジ蛙『はっきりはせんが ある孤島じゃ… 人々は近づかん 生物達の楽園…
    ワシからしたら楽しそうなリゾートじゃ』
    Prophet Frog: I can't say for sure but, there is a solitary island...a paradise of living things people can't approach...seems like a fun resort I could live at.

    ナルトの頭は、蝶々が飛ぶ楽園を想像
    Naruto imagines a paradise of sorts.

    ジジ蛙『そこでタコがお前に協力してくれるはずじゃ… とにかく導きがあるじゃろう』
    Prophet Frog: There the octopus should assist you...anyhow, that's some sort of guidance yeah.
    ナルト『オッス!』
    Naruto: Alright!
    フカサク『ほんなら戻すで』
    Fukusaku: Then we'll return with that.

    ナルト、一楽に戻される
    Naruto returns inside Ichiraku Ramen.
    一楽でラーメン食べてた、忍2人ビビる
    2 Ninja eating there are surprised.
    ナルト『あ!…戻った…』
    Naruto: Ah!...I'm back...
    一楽親父『どこ行ってた!?急に消えたと思ったらまた急に出てきやがって!』
    Ichiraku's Old Man: Where were you!? You quickly disappeared I thought, and now you've suddenly appeared again!
    ナルト『ちっとねー』
    Naruto: I guess so.
    忍A『おお!ナルトか!』
    Ninja A: Ooh! Naruto huh!
    ナルト『?』
    Naruto: ?
    忍B『こんな所で会えるとは思わなかった あ!そうだサインくれサイン!うちの子に書いてやっ てくんねーか な
    お前のファンでよ』
    Ninja B: I didn't think I would meet you in a place like this! Please, can I have your autograph! I was wondering if you could write it out to my kid. He's your fan.
    ナルト『…サイン…?』
    Naruto: ...autograph...?
    忍A『木の葉の英雄 奇跡を起こす少年 うずまきナルト! うちのほうにも1枚頼む!』
    Ninja A: Konoha's Hero. The boy who made a miracle happen. Uzumaki Naruto! Please write one for me too!
    ナルト『…』
    Naruto: ...
    忍A『…どうしたダメか?』
    Ninja A: ...what's wrong? Don't want to do it?
    ナルト『いや…オレってばそういうのに慣れてねーからよ サインなんてもってねーし』
    Naruto: No... I guess I'm just not used to this...autographing for one.
    一楽親父(…最近じゃ奇跡の少年なんてもてはやされちゃいるが… つい最近までは
    まったく逆だったもんな… 無理もねーよ)
    Ichiraku's Old Man: (...Only recently has he become this boy of miracles...but only until recently was it the opposite...it's crazy to think)
    一楽親父『お客さん サインの前にラーメン食わしてやってくんねーかな』
    Ichiraku's Old Man: Before you start signing, what can I get started for you?
    忍A『あ…ああ…』
    Ninja A: Ah...A...
    ナルト『やっと食えるってばよ!』
    Naruto: Finally, time to eat!

    雷影の召集から三日後
    3 days following the Raikage's summons.
    雷の国に集合
    Assembly in the lightning country.

    土影の護衛に、わからない
    Tsuchikage and unknown escort.
    火影の護衛に、シカク
    Hokage is with Shikaku.
    ミフネの護衛に、ハゲの男
    Mifune is with that Hage guy.
    水影の護衛に、アオ
    Mizukage is with Ao.

    風影の護衛に、テマリ
    Kazekage is with Temari.
    雷影の護衛に、秘書
    Raikage is with his secretary.

    雷影『皆早かったな…』
    Raikage: That was fast everyone...
    風影『急を要する状況だからな』
    Kazekage: This is an urgent issue after all.
    土影『しかしツナデ姫よ… …お前はもうええのか? この機会に若いもんと替わればええものを …
    お前も歳じゃぜ!』
    Tsuchikage: But Tsunade-dono...everything is well with you? You've taken the opportunity to make yourself out to be young again, you oldie.
    ツナデ『アンタに言われたかないね 両天秤じじい!!』
    Tsunade: I should say the same for you Twin Scales gramps!!
    水影『ダンゾウの件はさておき ツナデ様が火影に戻ってこられて安心しました』
    Mizukage: Now that this Danzou matter has been set aside, I'm relieved you've returned as Hokage Tsunade-sama.
    ミフネ『あいさつはこの辺のして さっそく会議を始めるでござる』
    Mifune: Greetings can be done after. I apologize, but we need to begin the meeting immediately.
    ミフネ『まずは八尾と九尾の件 人柱力の事… そして敵の本拠地と戦力などの情報についてだ』
    Mifune: Firtly, information concerning the jinchuriki of the Hachibi and the Kyubi...as well as the enemy's stronghold and war power.
    ツナデ『敵の本拠地らしき場所はウチの者が突き止めている ただ罠かもしれん…もう少し情報を 集まるしかな い』
    Tsunade: One of ours has seem to located what looks to be the enemy's stronghold. However this could be a trap...we have no choice but to gather more information.
    雷影『こちらも偵察部隊を編成して情報集めを行っているところだ 各里の情報を迅速に照らし合 わせていくほ かない』
    Raikage: Myself as well. I've formed a scouting party to gather information on that location. We need to quickly check with each nation's information.
    水影『なら情報を統括する部隊を連合で別に組織しましょう』
    Mizukage: In that case, let's put structure a group to unify all this information together.
    土影『それがええじゃろ! で…人柱力共はどこに隠す?』
    Tsuchikage: That's a good idea! So...where are we hiding the jinchuriki?
    ツナデ『隠すう!?』
    Tsunade: Hide!?
    雷影『何だ!?』
    Raikage: What is it!?
    ツナデ『ナルトもビーも大きな戦力だぞ!!隠してどうする!??』
    Tsunade: Naruto and Bee are great strengths for us!! What would we have them do in concealment!??
    土影『ワシもそう思ったが 今回の戦争はその二人が敵の目的じゃぜ もしもの事を考えて出陣は させん…
    前の会議でそうとり決めた』
    Tsuchikage: I also thought the same but, those two are what this war is revolving around. We've considered letting them head out with our forces, but it's been decided at the previous meeting.
    ツナデ『敵は うちはマダラだぞ! 戦力を出し惜しみして 勝利の鍵を失ったらチャンスは二度 とない!
    全ての戦力をぶつけーーー』
    Tsunade: The enemy is Uchiha Madara! We can't spare any potential is manpower. There won't be a second chance at victory if we mess up now. We should combine all our military strength---
    風影『今回はその二人を守る戦争 火影の一人が勝手言ってもダメだ 多数決で決める』
    Kazekage: This is a war about protecting those two. We can't just have it that way on the basis of what the Hokage wants. It's majority rules.
    ツナデ『この若造が!ナルトはな』
    Tsunade: This youngster! Like Naruto.
    風影『あいつの事ならよく知ってる…  仲間のためなら無茶をしすぎる… だからこそだ』
    Kazekage: I know what you're thinking concerning Naruto... but it would be rash to do this just for the purpose of being friends...so that's why it is how it is.
    ツナデ『…』
    Tsunade: ...
    ミフネ『戦力を問題にする前に… …五影がまとまらなければ それこそ勝利はないでござろう』
    Mifune: Before it even becomes a problem of war potential...the five kages must be on the same page for victory to even be a possibility.
    シカク『私も皆に同感です』
    Shikaku: I agree with them.
    ツナデ『チッ… もういい…』
    Tsunade: Ch...Fine...
    土影『へらず口のナメクジ姫は健在だな… 元気になった証じゃぜ』
    Tsuchikage: Your horrid mouth is in good health too...proof you've gotten better.
    雷影『八尾 九尾隠し場所を決める 異論はないな火影』
    Raikage: The place where we hide the Hachibi and Kyubi needs to be decided. There's no objection, right, Hokage?
    ツナデ『分かった… さっさと次へ進めろ!』
    Tsunade: I understand...let's carry on!
    雷影『フッ…隠し場所は決めてある… とっておきの場所だ ”暁!のメンバーの出ていない
    ここ雲隠れにある場所が妥当だろう  ビーと一緒に修行にはげんだある孤島だ』
    Raikage:Hm...we are thinking of a hiding place....the best place. It is only appropriate that it be in the Hidden Cloud, considering it is a place untouched by Akatsuki. It's an island where Bee and I have trained.

    船の乗ってるナルト ヤマト
    Naruto and Yamato on a boat.
    ヤマト『そうかタコがねエ…』
    Yamato: Hm, no octopus...
    ナルト『極秘任務で楽園の孤島に行く事になったから これは導きなんだってばよ!予言通りだ』
    Naruto: This is a top secret mission from the prophet sage to go to this solitary island of paradise. As the prophecy states.
    ヤマト(ナルトの奴… まだ感づいてないようだな)
    Yamato: (Naruto...it seems he hasn't noticed yet.)
    雷忍A『そろそろ陸に上がる準備をしてください』
    Cloud Ninja A: Please make preparations as we are approaching shore.
    木の葉忍『おお 島が見えてきたぞ』
    Konoha Ninja: Oo, I can see the island!
    ナルト『ホントだア!』
    Naruto: It's really here!

    孤島到着
    They arrive at the island.
    岩だらけ 動物の死体 骨。。。
    There's only stone, bone, and dead things...

    ナルト『ら… 楽園…?』
    Naruto: Huh...paradise...?
    雷忍A『木の葉の”死の森”みたいなもんです… こっちのほうがちょっと過激ですが
    なに安全ですよ… 生物達はこちらから何もしなければおとなしいもんですから… ただ一つ…』
    Cloud Ninja A: It's like Konoha's Forest of Death...this is a little more extreme but safe...there's nothing else alive here...except for one...
    ヤマト『ただ一つ何ですか?』
    Yamato: Except for one?
    ナルト『これのどこが楽園じゃー!!デカじいちゃん仙人のアホー!!』
    Naruto: What about this is paradise!! That idiot sage!!
    雷忍A『ここの海岸にすむ…』
    Cloud Ninja A: The thing that lives on this beach...
    ナルト『! アー!!タコの足ー!!  さあタコ!!オレを導いてくれってばよオ~~~~!! 』
    Naruto: ! A!! An octopus tentacle!! The octopus!! Please guide me!
    ヤマト『ナルト…こいつは…』
    Yamato: Naruto...this is...



    『イカだアーーーー!!』
    It's a squid!!


    ナルト『え!?』
    Naruto: Eh!?
    雷忍『でたーア!!!こ…こいつだけには気をつけないといけないって言おうとした矢先に出たー !!』
    Cloud Ninja: It's here!! I was trying to say if you should be aware of this, but it's here now-!
    ヤマト、木の葉忍『なにーイ!!!』
    Yamato, Konoha Ninja: What!!!
    ナルト『1 2 3 4 5 6 …』
    Naruto: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6...
    ヤマト『足数えなくても見りゃ分かるでしょ!ナルトやるよ!』
    Yamato: Even without counting the tentacles you should be able to tell by just looking, Naruto!
    ナルト『でも一応確かめないと…イカなら10本… タコなら8…』
    Naruto: But just to make sure...squid have 10, and octopus has 8...
    イカ、ナルト捕まえる
    The squid grabs Naruto.
    ナルト『うわー!』
    Naruto: Uwwa!
    ヤマト『ナルト!!』
    Yamato: Naruto!!
    八尾、イカを掴む
    The Hachibi seizes the squid.
    ビー『イカはすっこんでろ 以下省略!!!♪』
    Bee: Squid are beneath me, they are below me!!
    忍『何だアー もう一匹ダジャレ喋りながら出てきたアー!!』
    Ninja: What's this- another ones here and it's talking-!!
    忍『もうむちゃくちゃだアー!!!』
    Ninja: It's nothing!
    ナルト『4 5 6 7 8 … タコだア!! 今度こそタコだア!!』
    Naruto: 4, 5, 6, 7, 8...it's an octopus!! This time it's an octopus!!
    ヤマト『タコ… なのか?』
    Yamato: Octopus...huh?
    雷忍『キラービー様ア!!』
    Cloud Ninja: Killer Bee-sama!!
    ヤマト『キラービー?じゃあ…この…』
    Yamato: Killer Bee? Then..this...
    ビー『遅せーじゃねーか ばかやろー このやろー!!』
    Bee: You're late brat!!


    遭遇!八尾をの共同生活スタート!!
    Encounter! The start of sequester with the Hachibi!!
    終わり★サーセイ
    The end.

    * apologies, it's obviously still early. but yes, the text confirms it to be Shikaku, not Shikamaru.


    Well, The Kisame thing was on purpose so it's not a good example. Zetsu is also consider a big part of Akatsuki forces. Even still, Ee was able to handle things once he showed up, Proving my point about others to replace Kirabi and Naruto. The only members of Akatsuki that haven't already been defeated by a normal ninja was Nagato and Madara, And without his six paths Nagato has lost his best edge. Anyway, Konoha and now the other villages will know the abilities and weaknesses of the past Akatsuki members in order for them to counter any attack from them.
     
  7. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    I find it funny that they plan on hiding the last two Jinchuriki in the Land of Lightning. Wouldn't that be the first place Madara and friends would look to find the Raikage's little brother? I mean apart from Kisame already being there, it's not the best hiding place. Mount Myoboku would've been better.
     
  8. uber gon

    uber gon Accept Change

    Looking at how Hachibi and the Raikage turned out after training on that island I wonder what will happen with Naruto? Hopefully something that can help make Sage Mode even more awesome. That and some more wind jutsu.
     
  9. Shadow Lucario

    Shadow Lucario Lone Vanguard

    Killer Bee and his rapping. It never ceases to amuse me. I was disappointed when I saw that the chapter ended after page 15. :(
     
  10. TsukiMirage

    TsukiMirage Rikudou Master

    The thing that shocked me about this chapter was Naruto knowing the difference between a squid and octopus. I wouldn't think he would have known that. Though Yamato was right about not needing to count the arms to tell the difference. Anyway, I'm glad the other kages didn't let Tsunade have her own way. It's good some of them are using logic.
     
  11. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    I thought Tsunade did well in trying to convince the other Kage about Bee and Naruto being useful in the fight. I mean, I expect Madara to use the other Bijuu so it's only natural for the Gokage to use Bijuu too.
     
  12. HoennMaster

    HoennMaster Well-Known Member

    Well, The Kisame thing was on purpose so it's not a good example. Zetsu is also consider a big part of Akatsuki forces. Even still, Ee was able to handle things once he showed up, Proving my point about others to replace Kirabi and Naruto. The only members of Akatsuki that haven't already been defeated by a normal ninja was Nagato and Madara, And without his six paths Nagato has lost his best edge. Anyway, Konoha and now the other villages will know the abilities and weaknesses of the past Akatsuki members in order for them to counter any attack from them.[/QUOTE]

    A is going to be commanding the entire alliance, he himself is not going to have a lot of time to actually be battling a lot. Not to mention the reincarnated Akastuki members have to have their souls removed, so no matter how many countermeasures the alliance comes up with, Akatsuki has a good edge.

    Exactly my point of view...almost anyway. If they listened they could be big assets. I find it kind of funny how Gaara knows Naruto is strange but he always seems to win and he doesn't want him on the battle lines.

    Meanwhile, was this chapter shorter then usual or does Manga stream use a different number scheme then One Manga?
     
  13. Shadow Lucario

    Shadow Lucario Lone Vanguard

    It seemed shorter to me. The only difference I've noticed is that Mangastream usually has that picture first.
     
  14. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    Chapter was 15 pages long according to Mangastream, which is really short. But they fit a lot of things in the chapter. Liked that more ninja showed respect for Naruto at least. He's on his way to being Hokage if he can master the Kyuubi's power. I was amused by the fact that Naruto was on a boat, seemed to relate to One Piece in a way. Then the squid reminded me of the Kraken. Anyway, I'm ready to see how Naruto and Bee will get along.
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2010
  15. 7 tyranitars

    7 tyranitars Well-Known Member

    yeah I wonder about that too and if kisame will try to capture them both at the same time
     
  16. theforgottensoldier

    theforgottensoldier divide and conquer!

    I wonder if Kisame knows anything about sage mode because if samehada were to try to suck chakra from Naruto while he is in sage mode he would be in quite a bit of trouble, of course that would depend on if samehada is a living organism i guess.
     
  17. TsukiMirage

    TsukiMirage Rikudou Master

    But there's no need. The Bijuu aren't that strong. They're considerably weaker then their Jinchuuriki were and their Jinchuuriki were able to be beaten by a few elite ninjas. The villages themselves should have more then enough forces to handle the bijuu without relying on Naruto and Kirabi.

    From what we have seen, Just because he will be commanding them doesn't mean he's not gonna actually be fighting at the same time. As for Kabuto's forces, It's not as if using Naruto and Kirabi would make them easier to kill, So using them won't make enough of a difference to risk them.

    The thing that Tsunade is missing is that this whole war is over those two. If they were fighting on the frontlines, They would instantly become the main targets and all of Akatsuki's forces would focus on them. And once Akatsuki got them, The war would be over. With the sheer number of ninjas the five villages have, They don't need to risk Naruto and Kirabi.
     
  18. 7 tyranitars

    7 tyranitars Well-Known Member

    that's true but I have feeling that everything will go wrong and that naruto and bee are needed eventualy after... killing kisame
     
  19. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    I'm not gonig to ignore the fact that the Bijuu are still powerful on their own and I'm sure the villages wouldn't ignore them either. I think the Kage have enough strength to defeat the Bijuu but that would mean leaving the battlefield, where most of the Kage, like Tsunade, are needed.



    Yeah I kind of knew that, I mean, the only difference in my theory is that Bee gets captured but I expect Naruto will enter the fight against Madara at one point. He probably gets captured there or something. You know me, I love gore :p
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2010
  20. 7 tyranitars

    7 tyranitars Well-Known Member

    that's true bit it doesn't matter much since they will evenualy still enter the battlefield. after they killed kisame I mean kisame doesn't have a chance having a few konoha and kumo jonin + naruto and bee I think kisame is gonna bite the dust forgood this time after that they will call on help because the allied shinobi forces are losing :p edit: @ kira your shipping no justsu picture made me laugh :p
     

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