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Grymyrk

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i'm working on a theme team of underused/underappreciated pokemon that don't appear in R/S, so i can surprise my mate when i play link battles. i need a bit of help in the last two slots though. [note, the first four pokes aren't likely to change, i prefer battling with odd pokes with at times odd movesets which are more unpredictable]

Fearow@Choice Band
Trait:Keen Eye
EVs: 252 att, 252 spd, 6 hp
Nature:Jolly
-Return
-Drill Peck
-Quick Attack
-Steel Wing [can't get HP]

Slowking@Leftovers
Trait:Oblivious
EVs: 252 att, 252 hp, 6 sp.def
Nature:Brave
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Shadow Ball
-Rest

Clefable@Leftovers
Trait:Cute Charm
EVs: 252 sp.att, 252 hp, 6 sp.def
Nature:Modest
-Calm Mind
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Moonlight [i may put softboiled on it if i can be bothered. i don't like the idea of using rest on this set as it'd be very open to fighter switchins seeing as i have no healbeller]

Misdreavus@Leftovers
Trait:Levitate
EVs: 252 hp, 252 spd, 6 sp.def
Nature:Jolly
-Mean Look
-Perish Song
-Taunt
-Protect


for my last two slots i'd been looking at using a mr.mime, perhaps this one:
Mr.Mime@Leftovers
Trait:Soundproof
EVs: 252 sp.att, 252 spd, 6 sp.def [or 252 spd 129/129 sp.att/def?]
Nature:Timid
-Psychic
-Fire Punch [presumably i can breed it to him through chan>zam] /Magical Leaf?
-Barrier
-Baton Pass

absorbs special attacks nicely, sets up barriers and then passes to my more physically fragile pokes. this thing has so many options though i'm kind of at a loss. i know i want the STAB'd attack, and passing defense might be useful to help my CMfable set up. but i really don't know, never used one before. which is kinda the point of this team - for me to expand my appreciation of some of these guys.

and for physical wallage i was thinking either Steelix [which i admit isn't UU, but if it comes to it i may need something a little more powerful in the team so i don't lose too embarassingly] or Tangela. i'm leaning more towards Tangela at the moment, ground resist is nice. but moveset wise, i'm not too sure. [damn there not being any usable grass attacks] but i am aware that my team needs a phazer. if i'm going to be strist UU i could maybe use nidoqueen? =/ or should i just hope that i won't have too much trouble from stat-uppers and go with the cool blob of grass with no decent attacking grass move?

any help/assistance/abuse would be appreciated :)
 
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Grymyrk

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Nine Thou said:
Mr. Mime should look more like this imo:

Mr. Mime @ Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Fire Punch
- Baton Pass

hmm. all you seem to have done is switched the roles of the natures and passing move. i'd much rather double his defense and add 10% to his special my way than add 10% to a base stat of 65 and boost his specials and then not be able to make use of him passing it to anyone.

i've decided on using Tangela as my physical wall/tank type thing, with Amnesia/Leech Seed/Sleep Powder/giga Drain or something. which means i still need a hazer/phazer. and i guess i'll have to ditch missy for something more physically offensive.
i guess i could use a kangaskhan with roar [if that's feasable] or nidoking, but they've probably got better things to do. if i could get one, a hazing quagsire would be nice to have... :(

[edit] bah. mr.mime can't get firepunch outside of the emerald move tutors by the look of things. magical leaf isn't really gonna do that much damage to anything, so i now have problems for the fourth moveslot. if not magical leaf for type coverage, Hypnosis? or Encore maybe?
 
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Tazzler

Well-Known Member
Grymyrk said:
i'm working on a theme team of underused/underappreciated pokemon that don't appear in R/S, so i can surprise my mate when i play link battles. i need a bit of help in the last two slots though. [note, the first four pokes aren't likely to change, i prefer battling with odd pokes with at times odd movesets which are more unpredictable]

Fearow@Choice Band
Trait:Keen Eye
EVs: 252 att, 252 spd, 6 hp
Nature:Jolly
-Return
-Drill Peck
-Quick Attack
-Steel Wing [can't get HP]
Okay.
Slowking@Leftovers
Trait:Oblivious
EVs: 252 att, 252 hp, 6 sp.def
Nature:Brave
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Shadow Ball
-Rest
Lol. Slowbro>Special Slowking>Physical Slowking.
Slowbro (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 116 HP / 122 Def / 176 SAtk / 96 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Surf
- Psychic/Ice Beam

Clefable@Leftovers
Trait:Cute Charm
EVs: 252 sp.att, 252 hp, 6 sp.def
Nature:Modest
-Calm Mind
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Moonlight [i may put softboiled on it if i can be bothered. i don't like the idea of using rest on this set as it'd be very open to fighter switchins seeing as i have no healbeller]
Okay. I don't know the best spread that Pax made but the nature is bold and 184 evs to reach a stat of 250 in defense.
Misdreavus@Leftovers
Trait:Levitate
EVs: 252 hp, 252 spd, 6 sp.def
Nature:Jolly
-Mean Look
-Perish Song
-Taunt
-Protect
Sure. Though I have taken a liking to CMMIssyD with CM/Thunderbolt/HPice{Psychic}/Imprison{Thunder Wave}.

for my last two slots i'd been looking at using a mr.mime, perhaps this one:
Mr.Mime@Leftovers
Trait:Soundproof
EVs: 200 sp.att, 252 Hp, 52 sp.def [or 252 spd 129/129 sp.att/def?]
Nature:Timid
-Psychic
-Fire Punch [presumably i can breed it to him through chan>zam] /Magical Leaf?
-Calm Mind
-Baton Pass
Calm Mind over Barrier. Use 252 Hp/136Spd/60Spdef/62SAttk
absorbs special attacks nicely, sets up barriers and then passes to my more physically fragile pokes. this thing has so many options though i'm kind of at a loss. i know i want the STAB'd attack, and passing defense might be useful to help my CMfable set up. but i really don't know, never used one before. which is kinda the point of this team - for me to expand my appreciation of some of these guys.

and for physical wallage i was thinking either Steelix [which i admit isn't UU, but if it comes to it i may need something a little more powerful in the team so i don't lose too embarassingly] or Tangela. i'm leaning more towards Tangela at the moment, ground resist is nice. but moveset wise, i'm not too sure. [damn there not being any usable grass attacks] but i am aware that my team needs a phazer. if i'm going to be strist UU i could maybe use nidoqueen? =/ or should i just hope that i won't have too much trouble from stat-uppers and go with the cool blob of grass with no decent attacking grass move?

any help/assistance/abuse would be appreciated :)

@Ninethou- If you are using an extra special move, use thunderbolt. Otherwise Substitute/Encore/Barrier over fire punch.

Tangela should be the sunnybeaming variety but if you are using it as a wall:

Tangela@Leftovers
Bold Nature
-Sleep Powder
-Leech Seed
-Giga Drain
-Stun Spore

Doublepowder rocks.

HUGE Nidoking weakness-either mixking or cbking. Pokemon like kangaskhan will give you a bit of trouble.

Crunchpetaya manectric as well.
 
Slap me for suggesting that set, I don't know what I was thinking when I did. Maybe I forgot to differentiate between CMbro and Mr. Mime because of my Bold suggestion, but...

Yeah, like Tazler said, use Thunderbolt over Fire Punch or whatever second attack you will. If I remember correctly, only Steelix, Claydol, and Magneton resist Thunderbolt and Psychic, and you can just BP out in that case. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
 
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Grymyrk

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right. it seems like everyone is suggesting that i put calm mind on pretty much everything except Fearow :| and for quite possibly the thousandth time, i know that's an inferior Slowking set, that's the point. this isn't meant entirely seriously or competitively. and if you make him special i have only one physical attacker. i don't want to put calm mind on mr.mime because the rest of the team could use the defense support from barrier. and in case you hadn't noticed i like making my pokes dificult to attack from either end of the spectrum - see my idea of using Amnesia on Tangela over stun spore. [as well as curseking]
i will use the suggested Tangela though, thank you :)

if i could get quagsire i would use him over king, as he'd also fill the vacant role of hazer. hmm, that gives me an idea...
 
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