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Need help with the team

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OmastarLover

Guest
Finaly i did it, gor the team from text of NB, here it is as now:

;145;Zapdos @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 Spd / 85 SAtk / 85 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

;071;Victreebel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 84 HP / 172 Atk / 84 Def / 84 Spd / 84 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Swords Dance
- Synthesis

;139;Omastar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 85 HP / 168 Def / 85 Spd / 172 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Spikes
- Surf

;378;Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 88 HP / 84 Spd / 252 SAtk / 84 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic

;208;Steelix (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 116 HP / 84 Atk / 140 Def / 84 Spd / 84 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Roar
- Rock Slide

;229;Houndoom (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 84 HP / 84 Def / 84 Spd / 172 SAtk / 84 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Will-O-Wisp

OBS: Still have some problems with starmie (it runs from regice, obviously), and serious problems with Lax/Bliss... some problems with raikou and aerodactyl also... guess i have much to change yet :(
 
Alfonso

Alfonso

Derpgull
Carpetted! said:
What's the point of roar? o_O
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I see.

In-Game rate is over in that direction.

Roar is used to force a switch, thus negating any stats that have been increased by moves such as Swords Dance, Iron Defense, etc. It's also used as a combo with Spikes to cause damage.

That EV spread for Zapdos is awful. ._. Sure, it was probably a mistake, but you can't afford to make mistakes in NB.
 
Alfonso

Alfonso

Derpgull
0mastar said:
whoa alfonso
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Hey.

I haven't NBed in f*cking ages, since this forum pretty much went to hell because of the increase in people who can't tell the difference between Competitive and In-Game. I opened it up this morning though, may give making a team another try.

Until then, here's an old favorite of mine that I posted up a while back.

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Anyway.

-No Rest on Zapdos, since it doesn't even have Sleep Talk. And replace Drill with either HP Ice or HP Grass.

-Dump Victreebel. It's not a good idea to mix a UU in a OU team. It'll be ripped apart in no time.

-Thunderwave/Psych Up > Toxic on Regice
 
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shoe pilot

Banned
counter. right.

not Psych Up for countering Suicune or Thunderwave for disabling random ****?
 
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Fluorescent Adolescent

is Superbad
Actually that isn't such a bad idea. Something tries to FP regice then counter it. Or if theres a CBer then it can expect to die. Although Thunderwave is most probably the best option over psych up IMO.

F*** suicune.
 
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shoe pilot

Banned
Something tries to FP regice then counter it.
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the weakest used Focus Punch, McGar's, does 72%-84%.

Boah would do 86% to a OHKO, SPBB Draggy would do similar amounts, any STABed/Choice Banded Focus Punch is a OHKO.
 
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Fluorescent Adolescent

is Superbad
shoe pilot said:
the weakest used Focus Punch, McGar's, does 72%-84%.

Boah would do 86% to a OHKO, SPBB Draggy would do similar amounts, any STABed/Choice Banded Focus Punch is a OHKO.
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Ice beam kills Draggy, no one in their right minds would switch a regice into a FP and if Boah came in, you'd just switch or predict and use Ice beam ._.;
 
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aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
more like regice switched into draggy's sub not knowing it was sub-punch-bolt-beam
 
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shoe pilot

Banned
*Ryan* said:
Ice beam kills Draggy, no one in their right minds would switch a regice into a FP and if Boah came in, you'd just switch or predict and use Ice beam ._.;
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and thusly not use counter.

thanks for further proving my point.
 
F

Fluorescent Adolescent

is Superbad
But that's just for 2 pokemon ._.; I'm saying it could work for the average physical sweeper such as tauros or something. Heck even snorlax 8D
 
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leafgreen386

no troll
...

But you said Focus Punch. You never said anything about "the average physical sweeper."

Anyway...

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 56 Def / 152 Spd / 176 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Light Screen
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Imo, the RestTalking Zapdos is better, but w/e. If you want T-Wave that bad...

You're probably better off with a CBer of some sort in Victreebel's spot. That is, as long as you can predict.

Regice @ Leftovers ** Icicle empire
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP / 12 Spd / 216 SAtk / 76 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

This is what I use. Regice has a 200 base SDef. Take advantage of it! I probably went a little excess in SAtk, so feel fre to move some of that to Def.

For Steelix, use an Impish nature, and give it enough for 336 HP, 500-520 Def, maybe 12 Spd if you're using Rock Slide, none if you're using HP:Rock. As for the rest, you could just stuff it all in Atk, but iirc, it's better off with just a little SDef, so it can withstand random Fire Blasts better. Someone else could give you an actual number.

Houndoom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 52 HP / 188 Spd / 252 SAtk / 16 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Pursuit
- Will-O-Wisp

That's what I used when I used Houdoom, but...

I'm gonna suggest to remove either Omastar or Houndoom for a SkarmBliss counter. Be wary of Sandstream though if you use Boah. Probably Omastar, as Houndoom covers Regice on taking Fire attacks.
 
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F

Fluorescent Adolescent

is Superbad
leafgreen386 said:
...

But you said Focus Punch. You never said anything about "the average physical sweeper."
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I meant physical sweeper ._.;
 
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pyrofrost

Guest
i think u shud change zapdozes move pool to sum thing like this
-thunder/thunderbolt
-agility
-thunderwave
-drill peck
that thing isnt high on defences to use rest, i hav a feeling that its life guage will be returned to its previous condition after using rest, thats a sweeper.
 
F

Fluorescent Adolescent

is Superbad
pyrofrost said:
i think u shud change zapdozes move pool to sum thing like this
-thunder/thunderbolt
-agility
-thunderwave
-drill peck
that thing isnt high on defences to use rest, i hav a feeling that its life guage will be returned to its previous condition after using rest, thats a sweeper.
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No. Kthxbai.
 
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OmastarLover

Guest
Well, after too much of thinking and asking, i changed too many things on the team, i guess its MUCH better now:

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 90 HP / 40 Atk / 44 Def / 252 Spd / 40 SAtk / 44 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

**Its my fighting counter, so it NEEDS a decent drill peck in order to ensure OHKO to at least most of them, remember that almost all of fighting pokes have HP: Rock, or RS to counter fly, so cant take chances with no OHKO :)

Poliwrath (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 129 Def / 129 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Substitute

***Well, i try of a Bliss counter. I definitely have GREAT problems with Lax/Bliss, please help me solve it :(

Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd / 6 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Giga Drain
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis

*** Its able to cover Zappy's rest, especially seeing Zappy is my starter poke, so it will probably need to rest before Vileplume comes to fight, is it nice?

Lanturn (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 40 HP / 218 Def / 252 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic

*** GREAT special tank, i finnaly found one, this thing won me many battles, making a great match against Cune, Vappy, Raikou, Sala, Milotic and many other OU special attackers, just good, but it may be better in movepool i guess. Guess i need rest somewhere

Steelix (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 202 HP / 224 Atk / 84 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Roar
- Rock Slide

*** Even with AMAZING defense, sometimes it appears not to resist as well as it would be expected from him, should i EV-up defense even more?

Houndoom (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 84 HP / 84 Def / 84 Spd / 172 SAtk / 84 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Will-O-Wisp

*** Im attempting on switching this one, but it has some characteristics that cant be lost on my team, such as:

-Psychic defense (Gardevoir, Zam, at least on the switch, forcing a thunderbolt that is taken by Lanturn, cool!)
-Fire attack (obvious) counter grass, since my Ice Beamer is a water type :(
-Counters Exegutor, Celeby

Suggestions? thanks for all the help :)
 
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