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DarkFurret

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Well, I suck at movesets and EVs, so I really need help about this. I want to make a good time and win some more battles. Oh, and PLEASE don't tell me to get rid of Furret/Scyther/Espeon/whatever. I only need help with EVs and movesets... PS: Updated!!

Scizor (M) @ Focus Band ** Sci-fi
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 6 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Baton Pass
- Silver Wind
- Swords Dance

Classic Baton Passer Scizor. Dunno about the EVs though. It's BL, while the others are OU. Is that a problem?

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** :)
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 4 Def / 252 Spd / 252 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Roar
- Substitute
- Drill Peck/HP Flying

Besides Spikes and WhirlWind, I don't know if this is the correct set, but I think so.

Blaziken (M) @ Leftovers ** Flamoh
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- HP Ghost
- Overheat
- Sky Uppercut
- Swords Dance

I followed Eldes's advice but with Earthquake over HPGhost. For those who are seeing this for the first time, it's a physical sweeper with Overheat for those annoying bug/grasses.

Lapras (M) @ Leftovers ** Blue thing
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Confuse Ray

I didn't want to make a DD Lapras, so I just got the moves I thought were better for him.

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers ** TirTyre
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Toxic

I like this set. With max Speed, most of the times it OHKOs everyone if BPed by Scizor.

Espeon (M) @ Lum Berry ** Psyckat
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 128 Def / 252 SAtk / 128 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Morning Sun
- Psychic
- Toxic

The moveset will be changed briefly. I personally don't like it very much.

Well, I really need help :/

Oh, and if you want to know what was the previous set just tell me.
 
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eldes

is dead
Scyther (M) @ Quick Claw
Tyranitar (M) @ Scope Lens ** TirTyre
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never use hax items
Blaziken (M) @ Leftovers/salac berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 speed/ 4 S attack
Hasty Nature
- Sky Uppercut
- Overheat
- HP ghost
- Swords Dance
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that's the set i like to use
too lazy to rate the others
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Scyther is crap and doesn't need the Quick Claw anyway.
Tyranitar (M) @ Scope Lens ** TirTyre
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Thunder Wave
- Toxic
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252 Speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP.
EQ, Rock Slide, Dragon Dance, Taunt.
More Leftovers.
Politoed (M) @ Leftovers ** Policool
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 128 Atk / 128 Def / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Psychic
- Substitute
- Surf

Subpuncher in a Politoed is horrible. This is where I need the most help...
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It's called ditching.
Put in another good bulky water.
Blaziken (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 72 HP / 184 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) or Naive / Lonely.
- Sky Uppercut
- Rock Slide
- Fire Blast
- Swords Dance

A physical Sweeper. I COULD put Flamthrower, but with Adamant nature and his EVs it's kinda hard
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bleh.

Get rid of furret too. It will fail in any OU Battle.
oh, don't mix UU with OU.
 
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Judgement0

Mighty Morphin'
Scyther (M) @ Quick Claw
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 228 Atk / 28 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Baton Pass
- Silver Wind
- Swords Dance

I guess it's alright, but if you want to do that same thing, but with more options, try Ninjask. Swords Dance/Silver Wind or HP Flying/Substitute/Baton Pass. It's very useful and could work in conjunction with any good physical attacker. Blaziken really benefits from this. EVs for Ninjask are 252 Attack, 252 Speed, and 4 in whatever. Jolly Nature works, as does Adamant Nature.

Furret (M) @ Choice Band ** Foo-foo
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Return
- Shadow Ball

A Choice Bander. His Brick Break and HP have pwned a lot of fightings and Blisseys (specially Blisseys).

I'd rather not, personally. If you want a faster choice bander... Dugtrio is a good choice. You lack a ground type, which is problematic. I would go with that.

Blaziken (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Return
- Swords Dance

A better set would be Focus Punch/HP Ice/Fire Blast/Substitute. It is not easily walled and works very well with prediction. HP Ice destroys Salamence. EVs: 12 HP / 176 Atk / 252 Spd / 68 SAtk. I am suggesting this over what you have since it's too easily walled by steel types. If you really want to use a set similar to what you have, use Sky Uppercut, HP Ghost, Fire Blast, and Swords Dance. Give it more speed, because otherwise it's too slow and won't be able to sweep without serious paralysis support.

A physical Sweeper. I COULD put Flamthrower, but with Adamant nature and his EVs it's kinda hard

Politoed (M) @ Leftovers ** Policool
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 128 Atk / 128 Def / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Psychic
- Substitute
- Surf

Subpuncher in a Politoed is horrible. This is where I need the most help...

I suggest a better "bulky water" over Politoed. Milotic, Suicune, Slowbro, and Swampert are some of the better ones. Milotic is probably one of the best choices since it can take status for you and deal out status as well.

Tyranitar (M) @ Scope Lens ** TirTyre
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Thunder Wave
- Toxic

I dunno what this is. Just a bunch of moves. But it helps a lot against most of the legendaries. However, I really should take either TW or Toxic.

The version with Crunch, Substitute, Focus Punch, and Thunderbolt is generally a good choice and can beat both Skarmory and Blissey. I think the EVs are 252 HP, 68 Speed, 188 Special Attack. Quiet Nature, please.

Espeon (M) @ Leftovers ** Psyckat
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 128 Def / 252 SAtk / 128 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Morning Sun
- Psychic
- Toxic

Phail3d attempt at making an annoyer. Phail3d attempt at making a special sweeper. *sigh*

Annoyers don't work that well. Espeon is very good though. EspyJump is a good choice for teams with lots of special attacks. That set uses Psychic/Substitute/Calm Mind/Baton Pass.

If you want a different Psychic-type with better potential for sweeping, Encorezam works. Psychic, Calm Mind or Fire Punch, Substitute, Encore.

Overall, my biggest beef with this team is the lack of Special Walls and Physical Walls. Without those, you'll be beaten down pretty quickly.
 
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Tazzler

Well-Known Member
No........
 
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Judgement0

Mighty Morphin'
Either way, you still have defense problems. I am listing a bunch of options, and I believe the first one is one of the best for your team.

Forretress is a good idea. Here are multiple usable sets:

Spikes/Rapid Spin/Explosion/Earthquake
Spikes/Rapid Spin/Hidden Power Bug/Earthquake
Counter/Rapid Spin/Earthquake/Hidden Power Bug
Light Screen/Rapid Spin/Earthquake/Hidden Power Bug

-Zap Cannon is also a semi-plausible choice since it is automatic paralysis, but it has terrible accuracy.
-Toxic works for status support, which is always nice.
-If you don't want to explode your defensive wall, you can use Rest
-Light Screen works as a way to counter Magneton with Hidden Power Fire, which is generally a thread to most Forretress'.
-Counter is usable to beat things like Snorlax and Swampert.

Another option is Skarmory, which is pretty standard and simple to use. Best used with a Ground-type to beat everything except Magneton, which will beat Skarmory every time.

Regirock works as well, even though you don't see it as much because it is weak to the ever-so-common Earthquake.

Rhydon also works nicely and can give Blissey trouble if you use 101 HP Substitutes. And the point is that if you have the right resistances on your team, it works. It also can hit pretty hard and Counter is a nice move.

Note: Even though it scares away Blissey, that doesnt matter. It works as a defensive wall and as a physical attacker.
 
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blazemxx

Hi
Note: Even though it scares away Blissey, that doesnt matter. It works as a defensive wall and as a physical attacker.
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You mean a tank? Rhydon only beats Blissey if Bliss is the last Pokemon, which will most likely not happen...
 
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Fluorescent Adolescent

is Superbad
blazemxx said:
You mean a tank? Rhydon only beats Blissey if Bliss is the last Pokemon, which will most likely not happen...
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Rhydon beats bliss anyway, regardless of whether it's the last pokemon or not.
 
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aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
blissey ice beams said rhydon, rhydon doesn't ohko with earthquake

gg rhydon
 
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chaos952

NSFW
loling @ this thread.

And yes, this team really has a Pokemon weakness.
 
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Judgement0

Mighty Morphin'
nooblet said:
blissey ice beams said rhydon, rhydon doesn't ohko with earthquake

gg rhydon
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you're thinking of the standard rhydon. CBrhydon beats blissey, as does subpunching or subbing and setting up. Most Rhydons have enough speed to beat weezing, and therefore outspeed blissey by default, which helps it a lot. Psuedo-passing with Light Screen helps it beat Ice Beam Blissey anyway.
 
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DarkFurret

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Well, I said it sucked, but at least it already won 25 battles :). Really.

Anyway, I've been trying to change the team a little with your suggestions, but I just can't get it right. I still need a lot of help, but check the first page again for the new team.

Oh, and remember I still haven't changed some Pokémon like Espeon. I'm trying to anyway.

And I put Lapras instead of Politoed. Dunno if it's a good idea.
 
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Judgement0

Mighty Morphin'
On Blaziken, HP Ghost or HP Flying over Earthquake for better coverage.

Use Ninjask over Scizor. It works better and can pass subs as well as speed and attack.

Don't use Sandstorm on Skarmory. You have Tyranitar. Wasted moveslot IMO. Replace it with HP Flying since you have Whirlwind.

Try putting Sing over Toxic on Lapras. You would benefit from having a sleep move.

You could also try Slowbro over Lapras and put a special wall over Espeon.

Edit: Needs more Ground-type because you have a big Boah weakness.
 
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